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>Not sure if you're the same guy I already replied to but with a different ID
I am
>Really not sure where the contention is -- as I see it we already agree with each other.
Because in many of the discussions I see, and why I believe that I have been floundering for the past several years (Have been "trying" to learn Nip since 2018), focus upon studying the material (Whether it be grinding kanji or the grammar buide) before being exposed to any degree of it. And as I experienced going through the grammar guide, the farthest I've managed is section 4.12 before burning out as I didn't see that as being an accomplishment when I can barely comprehend or even remember the differences between three directional particles or see that a word is a conjugated verb until I look it up in the dictionary. Sort of like Trenton was talking about in his videos, there's this idea (Even subconsciously) that you need to "learn" the material before you should even attempt to "comprehend" and "use" it. And, yes, you do need to learn "some" basic concepts like how a simple sentence is formed. However everything I've seen coming from Trenton, and Roy Miller, and even Tae Kim (Though his arguing was specifically for introducing Kanji early on) is that you should expose yourself to the "raw" content as soon and quickly as possible in your studies. I have not seen anyone else really say that, or even the added fact that you're not going to be understanding much of it until the moment that you do. So the takeaway I'm seeing is to learn basic grammar, then drop all of that for grinding vocab and be exposed to the content as much as possible.
Yes, you can "study" the grammar further beyond just the basics, but is that really going to be a productive use if you're struggling with basic vocab and cannot even comprehend half of the words you hear in something like the attached vid?