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Kingdom "Pozzload of" Come: Deliver(a shitty product)ance 2: Electric Boogaloo: Drama Edition Anonymous 01/18/2025 (Sat) 00:42:08 Id: e8640e No. 1062146
Hark, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 releases in just a few more days Now, hold your excitement, because there has been some drama in the past few days which have incited speculation about the content of the game and not all of it is unjustified speculation. I'll be including all known information about this situation in this thread, feel free to contribute anything you can find to help out. <Where to start A few days ago, there were several reports that the country of Saudi Arabia has banned - or at least, hasn't yet cleared - the release of Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, with the alleged reason being that there are "unskippable gay scenes in story mode" https://archive.ph/243kc https://x.com/VGA4A/status/1879150290680893691 <Okay so this is just speculation based off of a precarious tweet from someone that isn't directly working with the Saudi government/licensing board? Well, not quite. See, there is more to worry about. There are also leaks coming from /v/ on 4chan from someone who received an early copy and found something surprising in the game. Well, that just so happened to be an African dude. Now the history buffs among us might already consider this a little sus on its own, but for the rest of you out there, you might be interested to know that the inclusion of a black is very interesting indeed given the previous statements by the lead developer of Warhorse Studios - Daniel Vavra - the creator of Kingdom Come, having commented in the past saying "There were no black people in medieval Bohemia. Period." That original tweet was from 2015 shortly before KCD1 released and received quite a lot of controversy, that time from the left side. Alright, so you may be asking yourself, why worry about rumors when Daniel Vavra himself is an avid twitter user and surely wasn't afraid in the past to set things straight. So concerned fans took to twitter to ask him, but Daniel Vavra was strangely....reluctant to clarify anything...
Some Saudi fag said he can buy the game.
When asked for clarification on the -ALLEGED- inclusion of a blackard and a faggot scene, Daniel Vavra responded with a non-answer, stating: >Because I don't talk to nazi shitheads like you https://archive.ph/m78VN https://x.com/DanielVavra/status/1879551511380029638 He later posted the pictured "explanation" about his decisions. Most fans replied right away letting him know this doesn't really answer anything and is just as vague as his previous replies. This just dug Vavra into an even deeper hole, causing even the content KCD fans to start becoming skeptical about Vavra's character and those who were skeptical before are now certain of his guilt in the situation, and that their worse fears would soon be realized Taking a quick detour here, Daniel Vavra himself is of Jewish heritage, and has made it clear to his fans in the past that his grandfather was in a concentration camp. https://archive.ph/X5aVN https://x.com/DanielVavra/status/997053924451463169 Just when fans and even former fans couldn't be more worried about the state of the game, a press release was placed on the Steam discussion forums for the sequel. It reads as follows, pictured here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1771300/discussions/0/507318096807138779/ https://archive.ph/azVJr >These rules are in addition to Steam’s broader Community Guidelines. Violations may result in actions by both our moderators and Steam itself. >1. Zero Tolerance for Discrimination >Discrimination in any form is strictly forbidden. This includes: >1.1 Racism: Prejudice or hostility based on race or ethnicity. >1.2 Sexism: Discrimination or hostility based on gender or sex. >1.3 Homophobia and Transphobia: Hatred or prejudice directed at LGBTQ+ individuals. >1.4 Ableism: Mocking or belittling individuals with disabilities. >1.5 Ageism: Discrimination or prejudice based on someone’s age. >1.6 Religious Discrimination: Targeting individuals for their faith or lack thereof, including but not limited to Islamophobia or Antisemitism. >1.7 Classism: Judging others based on their social or economic status. >1.8 Colourism: Bias or prejudice based on skin tone. >1.9 Body Shaming (Sizeism): Mocking someone’s body shape or size. >Any posts, comments, or behaviour perpetuating these harmful ideologies will be removed, and offenders will face swift action. >2. No Hate Speech or Harmful Ideologies >We stand against all forms of hate speech and dangerous ideologies. This includes: >2.1 White Supremacy: Advocacy of racial superiority or supremacy theories. >2.2 Neo-Nazism: Promotion or support of Nazi-related symbols, beliefs, or ideologies. >2.3 Encouragement of Violence: Posts that glorify, incite, or encourage harm toward individuals or groups. >2.4 Harassment: Repeated or targeted attacks, threats, or intimidation. >2.5 Glorification of Harmful Behaviour: Including but not limited to self-harm, suicide, or abuse. The rest of the post was negligible. The employee of Warhorse Studios that posted this, PLAION_MY4NH, has since privatized his profile on Steam (pictured)
>>1062150 That's not a Warhorse employee, that their publishers employee. PLAION AKA Deep Silver
>>1062154 Apologies, thanks for the clarification >>1062148 He can pre-order it, as it hasn't released yet. But also the paperwork may not have gone through on Steam's side. We still don't know the legitimacy of the Saudi Arabia ban but the concerns about the content of the game are still credible. Lastly on the speculation angle, we got the following message from a twitch mod who works at Warhorse, I believe this is referring to the aforementioned post by Vavra with the picture of him pointing, but I can't be certain. More flowery lawyer language used, doesn't really answer anyones concerns, but you can see that the need to run damage control is going strong. Now to the crux of the thread, is a revisit into the 'what we know' but going a bit deeper. For those of you not in the know, Warhorse Studios was bought out and acquired by Embracer Group a little while ago, after KCD1's release of course. This was in 2019. See the picture for a timeline <Why does that matter? Most people know Embracer Group for being infamously involved in various predatory employment and production practices, like DEI, ESG, and other Blackrock-funded ventures which plan to include nonwhites and homosexuals while shoving whites, particularly white men, out of employment opportunities as well as just simple appearances in video games and other media. See the Embracer Group code of conduct below, which includes the follow snapshot (pictured) https://archive.ph/r1E7K https://embracer.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Embracer-Code-of-Conduct.pdf >We recruit and promote the best by considering competence and individual suitability. However, if there are two equally skilled candidates, diversity will be considered in the recruitment decision in accordance with applicable local laws. We believe that we become stronger and more competitive as a company by employing people with different backgrounds and experiences and from different cultures. Here are some more snapshots directly from the horse's mouth (i.e. the Embracer Group website) With this said, it's very clear Embracer has put the stranglehold on Warhorse studios most likely and Vavra - either willingly or unwillingly - decided to bend the knee and give up on his morals for the sake of making money with his new bosses. Let's see how profitable that is for him in the long run. That is all I have to show for now but the story is developing and we'll know for sure how deep the degeneracy goes once the game releases in approximately 2 weeks (February 4th) You might want to engage in the Steam Discussions for the game as there is much merry and shitposting going on now.
>>1062146 Well hopefully it ain't pozzed but otherwise whatever, it's not like you don't have a few thousand good games you haven't played waiting for you elsewhere. >>1062154 Deep Silver is notoriously hands on and generally shitty even back when Embracer wasn't seen as bad, them being involved was a bad sign to begin with.
>>1062158 I would rather it not be pozzed since I know a lot of people really liked KCD 1 and it's a shame whenever a once-enjoyed series goes down the shitter. If I could make all games that ever release all great classics with lovely gameplay, I would.
I cancelled my pre-order on this game. It wasn't a real pre-order, just left over store credit I had that needed to be put on something in the system and I thought KCD2 looked decent at the time. I just cancelled it and used the store credit to put towards MonHun Wilds since I have friends who will want to play it all together.
>>1062158 Very true, Deep Silver is pure shit KCD was as good as it was due to it being finished by Warhorse after being community funded.
>>1062165 >a shame whenever a once-enjoyed series goes down the shitter Sure is, just remember that not letting go is worse than the alternative, see blizzardfags.
The farther from community influence the more it is under publisher influence. Publishers are contaminated with top-down views that absolutely do not align with the audience so you wind up with a contaminated product shunned by the community. Recall the thread about Onirism no longer being indie. Anons gave the same warnings regarding these influences.
>>1062175 Same thing happened to Risk of Rain 2
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man I get real fucking tired of this board sometimes
>>1062176 >Gearbox Yep, look at Kerbal 2 as well
>>1062177 >Pistol isn't half his size That's not Todd
>>1062178 Kerbal 2 was a way worse fuckup than just bad publisher influence. Take 2 tasked an entirely separate dev team to repurpose the original game, without the ability to ask the original devs what any of their code did, on a shoestring budget with insane deadlines and wanted to turn a somewhat complex sim into dumb youtuber bait physics game with "not minions" for mass appeal but also massively overpromise on feature to make OG fans stick around.
>>1062181 It was all on the publisher though, that's exactly what it was. Publisher influence fucking up a franchise.
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>LOOK AT ALL THESE TWITTER POSTS no You have a fairly distinctive posting style, and always seem more interested in culture war bullshit than actually playing games. This should be merged into GG.
>>1062187 only correct answer
>>1062187 Twitter has become the primary place where developers and other major persons of authority post updates and answer questions, it isn't something you can just write off with poor strawman attempts. I am also not whatever boogeyman you're trying to push this week. This is a thread about KCD2 specifically and shouldn't be pushed away into an obscure cubbyhole of a thread. This is the last time I'll be engaging with you in this thread.
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>>1062187 TRUST ME, WHEN YOU OPEN THIS CASE UP, YOUR LITTLE NUTS ARE GOING TO BE QUAKING BUDDY, YOUR LITTLE NUTS ARE GOING TO BE QUAKING
>>1062150 >When asked for clarification on the -ALLEGED- inclusion of a blackard and a faggot scene, Daniel Vavra responded with a non-answer, stating: >>Because I don't talk to nazi shitheads like you https://archive.ph/m78VN https://x.com/DanielVavra/status/1879551511380029638 POST THE CONTEXT The poster Vavra was replying to was an actual nazi who changed his profile picture because he was getting attention. Here's his profile picture before he changed it.
>>1062187 Well, you're sounding an awful lot like Luciano, hmmmmm?
Seems like we hit a nerve with this one boys.
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>>1062150 >No hate speech or harmful ideologies >we stand against >white supremacy So use bots to spam the Steam page with nothing but African, Asian, Indio, and even Abbo supremacy posts and threads.
>>1062201 Is that you again, Mark? Once more I must remind you that this doesn't refute his point. Vavra could have easily ignored that and addressed the "neonazi"'s arguments but instead decided to focus on epic owning the chud.
>>1062150 Can't even state a person is overweight anymore smh


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