I'm sick of these rumours and bullshit. Yes, the CES demo model of the next console was interesting to look at, but until Nintendo reveals anything themselves, and they haven't even announced an announcement that they will announce the Direct that reveals the next console, I will be disregarding the entire topic. I'm so fucking over it. Leakers were speculating about a Switch Pro for years and not a fucking thing came from it.

>>1061442 For its games, not hardware. Switch has interesting exclusives and Switch 2 should as Switch releases wind down since Nintendo's known to hold back finished games for timed releases. Library near launch should excel. I'm interested for rooting/piracy too, as Switch 2 runs Switch games, and should be able to emulate every Nintendo system before. Legion Go's cool but my PC's better, and struggles with some Switch emulation. Rather have games native. >>1061439 Heard "Switch 2 will be revealed" for years and agree, sick of rumors too. If it released today, OP could have waited the hours for his announcement thread.

>It is another fucking switch 2 thread. One day it will be real due to sheer probability.

>>1061439 >Thread made for a rumor What is this nigger doing? >>1061444 Nice digits, tripsman. I'll get Switch 2 if it got games too, don't need 8K DLSS blastprocessed raytraced framegen to bing my wahoos.

So what will a Switch 2 look like. If it looks just like a Switch it'll be disappointing and they'll risk having a Wii-WiU situation again. If it's totally different it might alienate people or make backwards compatibility difficult for some games. All that aside I'd like to see something interesting. Well I'd like them to bring back their DS and Gameboy lines but I've largely given up hope.

>>1061450 I imagine it'll be more like a ds-3ds situation. I hope they make something more pocketable than the switch lite for an alt model.

The Switch 2 has officially been announced

>>1061487 >Switch got blacked wewlol

No Switch 2 Direct until April, I wonder if this announcement was rushed due to all the leaks

>>1061495 Despite the name it seems like it's more like a SwitchPro than a truly new console. I wonder if the regular Switch will get cheaper now?

>>1061496 You know, Nintendo reportedly actually were planning the Switch Pro until the pandemic happened, that's why a billion people were reporting on it. Nobody was quite sure what happened to it at the time but around 2021/2022 I remember speculation it was being reworked into a new console.

>>1061497 My whole reaction was >Well it's just a Switch, innit?

Unless they return to having Free Online, I'm not buying it.

>>1061497 Seems to me that Nintendo just all out of fucking ideas for gimmicks at this point. Maybe not all out, but there's nothing revolutionary to the point of passing up on the sure thing of just re-releasing the Switch with minor upgrades. To be honest, I'm kind of fine with that. The past few consoles and handhelds have kind of been leading up to the perfect storm with the Switch, and innovating unnecessarily at this point could only hurt them. Maybe by next generation they, or the market, will have had enough time to shift into some new direction. The only emerging market right now is VR/AR and while Nintendo could parlay the Switch's form factor into a kind of ghetto VR setup with the right add-on - the VR market has been on life support damned neared since it's inception. Maybe Nintendo could change that with some quality software, a convertible system, and a cheap entry point - but why should they? The whole idea of VR - being sequestered in your own little independent "reality" away from everyone and everything else is anathema to Nintendo's focus as a party/friend/family system. Doubt I'll get one anytime soon. Honestly, I forget I even have a Switch as it is. Maybe if they had improved the controllers and made them more ergonomic, but it's still just the same godawful design as Switch 1.

>>1061434 I legit had to check if this thread was from last year or the year before or the year before that., etc. since journotards have beeing saying this for so long. >>1061487 >bigger >different kickstand which looks narrow enough for kids to break >dual USB-C >doesn't use sliding rails for joycons anymore, they snap straight in >plays old Switch games except.. *some aren't compatible now We'll have to see what functionality they removed that makes some games not compatible anymore, but this video reveals very little. I strongly suspect joystick drift was not addressed.

>>1061487 No dpad and same uncomfortable ergonomics.

>>1061527 >No DPAD It's right above the face buttons on the right, it's tiny though

>>1061487 This looks like an iphone ad

A reminder for some of you thinking they should get this at launch, just in case you forgot. I don't have the "never buy a console" at launch song video anymore...

>>1061543 >wrong video >I don't have the compilation of switches getting bricked at launch I hate hard drives man

>>1061527 Switch has the comfiest ergonomics for me docked as I have carpal tunnel, detached controllers don't flare it up. Right buttons are the dpad for 2D, I prefer them since I don't fat finger diagonals like normal dpads.

>>1061543 We got a lewd drawing out of it

>>1061548 It's uncomfortable as a handheld without a grip or third party joy cons.

>>1061512 I know they won't. Nintendo's jewish nowadays. But the fact remains: unless they make a show of consumer goodwill by undoing their taking of a free service and making it Paid Online (because god knows they won't make their online worth paying for, it's not even different from Wii U), I won't come back to them.

>>1061519 >We'll have to see what functionality they removed that makes some games not compatible anymore Joycons are too big for Labo.

>>1061555 That and 1-2 switch (game) has weird controls that can't be used in the new joycons I hear.

>>1061553 No I'm just jaded as to the recent years of the switch. I own a switch and switch lite and have a sizeable collection. Mario sports titles suffered, didn't like BOTW, don't like the recent "remasters" and mario's new voice actor is awful.Going PC only for now.

>>1061555 Ah, that makes sense then

>>1061553 >Shitting on Nintendo makes you a Sonyfaggot Every Sonyfaggot here has either changed his mind very quickly after Japan Studio died or fucked off back to cuckchan where you should go back to. People are discussing the pros and cons, and there's been plenty of animosity towards Nintendo for anti consumer practises.

>>1061553 I am lifelong Nintendo man. I play the Zeldo but don't like him now, or Metroid. He was good before, in Metroid Prime 4 he was stupid robot. I buy PS5 instead. I am real very real Nintendo man please hear my talking points and change your buy decision to PS5. Thank you.

>>1061562 Sad thing is, that kind of thirdie is the average Sony fan nowadays.

>>1061553 I honestly don't see a reason to get this console.

>>1061434 The switch 2 will be how people will finally recognize dead internet theory as being real. Because the internet sold the switch. The internet is now dead. Sony bots will completely obliterate this. And a chinese competitor will emerge victorious because they have better AI. This will be the last generation of games before total war. Then we'll be in complete poverty from it and won't seen this shit happen again for centuries.

>>1061561 Anti-piracy, not anti-consumer. They're the most pro-consumer of the "big 3" as they're not killing themselves to death and put their best efforts into exclusives. This thread has anti-consumer practices >>1061372 and Nintendo least does them. Not that they don't, and people will cherry-pick then amplify, but they least do them overall. >1) Bland "brown and bloom" colors and graphics, uncreative, uninviting, and visually unstimulating, that reduce atmosphere, emotional impact, and uniqueness >2) Crunch culture where employees work long hours under intense pressure to meet deadlines and deliver products, causing burnout and decreased product quaality >3) Degradation of the hobby as gaming became international and developers adapted design to cater to broader demographics >4) Digital rights management that requires online server authentication, or negatively impacts game performance, or limits how you can use the game >5) Diversity, equity, and inclusion biasing hiring processes at the expense of skills which reduces studio performance, competence, and morale >6) Excessive DLC that fragments the gaming experience, locking content behind additional purchases instead of including it in the initial release >7) Exploiting, cheating, and hacking online like aimbots and wallhacks, offline players usually know each other which discouraged local cheating due to social consequences >8) Game-as-a-service models, subscription and cloud services for gaming where you (((own nothing and be happy))) >9) Hyper-realism instead of artistic and aesthetic style, making games look generic as they strive for similar fidelity and lose unique artistic identity >10) Input lag making games feel more unresponsive, particularly in genres like fighting games, first-person shooters, or platformers needing precise movements or combos >11) Kernel-level anticheat that violate privacy and increases the risk malicious actors exploit security vulnerabiltiies to infect gamers with malware >12) Limited physical releases where many modern games are digital-only, and companies assume digital distribution, the PS5 Pro even lacks a disc drive >13) Loading screen saturation that frequently interrupts gameplay, wastes time, and breaks immersion >14) Monetization, microtransactions, loot boxes, and gambling mechanics and how developers design games around compulsive spending of players instead of delivering quality content >15) Movie games requiring significant "Triple A" budgets and minimizing player agency by sidelining gameplay and how they interact with the game world >16) Pay-to-win mechanics that let players gain advantages by purchasing powerful items or upgrades, undermining fair competition >17) Reduced challenge to cater to broader demographics as gameplay is de-emphasized >18) Releasing games incomplete with significant bugs then patching day one or over time with frequent updates instead of quality assurance, pre-ordering games encourages this too >19) System requirements where modern games require powerful hardware, making them less accessible, or large large with long download times so customers buy storage to play >20) Woke game narratives and character designs, prioritizing diversity over game quality, lacking positive role models, and abandoning game audiences for (((modern audiences)))

>>1061563 What are you talking about? 3rd worlders were the reason why word of mouth sales for the switch were great. They all just pirated it. Piracy literally leveraged it. But so did an effective internet that wasn't just machines. That's the difference now. AI.

Its bingshit so it'll sell

>>1061572 I dunno, the N64, GCN and WiiU were also bing shit and sold terribly.

What is this thing?

>>1061569 Above all else they were the only ones willing to go with backwards compatibility for 8 year old console. The paid online hurts but at least their exclusives are very good.

>>1061575 NSA spy component. They also inject neurotoxins into your bloodstream while you play.

>>1061577 5d gaming at last

>>1061575 Looks like the joycon release button.

>>1061579 It looks like it just pulls out but idk.

>>1061570 Bad theory, third worlders can't afford shit and computers emulating Switch decent are pricier than Switch by far. >>1061576 It sold because it has games, so will Switch 2.

>>1061576 >the only ones I swear to God, I am not intentionally trying to derail this conversation, into another M$ discussion. There is one more company that allows you to use discs from two console generations ago, on their current platform, but only for a select few, and otherwise that company is absolute shit.

>>1061575 Actually I think it sort of looks like a trigger for when you're in single joycon mode.

>>1061569 >not anti-consumer <Paid online <Bog standard DLC and microtransactions practices no different than anyone else <Can no longer own youor Virtual Console games <Every other rerelease/remake is censored or altered to comply with DEI <Began stepping in and preventing the sale of games on their own platform, despite not doing anything wrong, due to unknown internal regulations that no one can ever know about <Suing people who engage in system modding and emulation No, you're wrong. >They're the most pro-consumer of the "big 3" That's not saying much. It's like declaring that you're the only one in the trailer park who DOESN'T have STDs, meanwhile you still knocked up a handful of women who all hate each other.

>>1061588 I said "Nintendo least does them. Not that they don't, and people will cherry-pick then amplify, but they least do them overall. You in bold. I never played a Switch game with microtransactions. I know you don't own Switch as "microtransactions practices no different than anyone else" is wrong as it gets. Microtransactions are negligible on Switch while everyone else overdosed on microtransactions. You had to add "Virtual Console" because you own normal games more. Nintendo's better than Sony/MS for owning games. PS5 Pro doesn't even have a disc drive for physical games while Xbox shills Gamepass for everything. Nintendo censors the least. It happens, but 50-100 times less than Sony. I agreed Nintendo's anti-piracy, that doesn't argue with my position. Pirates aren't consumers. >They're the most pro-consumer of the "big 3" isn't saying much. It's like declaring that you're the only one in the trailer park who DOESN'T have STDs, meanwhile you still knocked up a handful of women who all hate each other. Maybe, but what does say much is they're the least bad but get the most shit here. Smart people look past what's said to why and why's console prejudice, not anti-consumer. This thread's that.

>>1061581 >computers emulating Switch decent are pricier than Switch by far. Not at all, I had a pc in 2017 that was like maybe 100 dollars more and that ran BotW with ease. You could get one back then for like 100 dollars less and it would run it unironically better than the switch.

>>1061592 I get where you're coming from, but I still think Nintendo is highly aggressive to a fault when it comes to their old consoles. Especially since they tried to scare Dolphin into stopping development, only to not follow through on the court case since they would be wiling to actually challenge them. >>1061588 >Bog standard DLC and microtransactions practices no different than anyone else Not really, Nintendo hasn't really added Microtransactions in the same way Sony or Microsoft have. They've allowed developers to put microtransactions in their games, but the first party games themselves don't have the same level of paid gacha as say the mobile gaming market. That being said you're absolutely right about the emulation, modding and lack of VC games.

>>1061592 >Maybe, but what does say much is they're the least bad but get the most shit here. I think they get the most shit here because people here have long just ignored PlayStation and Xbox. They're beneath notice.

>>1061595 That's true, especially considering that Microsoft has ran Xbox into the ground. Even Nintendo has been able to take the failures of the WiiU and turn them into something much more successful with the Switch. Microsoft still can't get out of the shadow of the Xbox One, and Phil Spencer is a terrible CEO.

>>1061574 They have their nintoddler install base to lap up their shit even if if bombs. They'll be fine.

>>1061593 You messed up. 99% emulate BotW on Wii U, not Switch, for performance reasons. You didn't know this. Anyone emulating Switch knows performance on many games is way worse. It's not "better hardware = smoother game," because you emulate Switch and game, not just Switch. It's really bad on some games.

>>1061600 Get one of those chinese retro handhelds.

>>1061600 Here's a hint: it means life.

>>1061604 The cube.

>>1061604 I don't know off the top of my head, but if you hate Nintendo and Steam Deck, see if there are any retro handhelds designed for Sega. I imagine something that looks a bit like a Sega Nomad, but with some joysticks and shoulder buttons. Does one of those exist? I don't know, but it should.

>>1061600 What do you hate about it?

>>1061598 The WiiU also had that and it was a terrible failure.

>>1061553 >Thread brigaded to death by snoys larping as tendies >>1061562 >I am lifelong Nintendo man. I play the Zeldo but don't like him now, or Metroid. He was good before, in Metroid Prime 4 he was stupid robot. I buy PS5 instead. I am real very real Nintendo man please hear my talking points and change your buy decision to PS5. Thank you. >>1061592 >Smart people look past what's said to why and why's console prejudice, not anti-consumer. This thread's that. Console wars was always a "make stuff up" circlejerk pretending nothingburgers are buy-threatening emergencies, but console wars are like culture wars. Everyone already chose what they do, noone's getting or not getting Switch 2 because of shitposters sperging. Vocal minorities of warring autists think they have influence but never affect my decisions, I usually ignore sperging to play my Switch games. That's actually fun.

>>1061614 Ah. so you're retarded. Nevermind

What if participating in ANY industry's discussion is shilling, for ANYTHING? You faggots are delusional that market doesn't care what you're saying, you're a forefront for gamergate god damn it. Watch and learn about assholes participating in this very thread. They'll be selling olive oil and wine even if nuclear bombs fall. Some kind of delusional idea of consolewar happening in this place is both bizarre and remind me how fake the marketers making up illusion of lively discussion. Because nobody smart even owns a console, its a waste of money. And playing console in public? Playing MARIO in public? Maybe you also wear kids clothes and school backpack behind your back? And a TMNT baseball cap, with buggs bunny T-Shirt? Maybe you also order something atrocious as mint icecream, or strawberry jam flavored icecream with sprinkles instead of either chocolate or vanilla? I am joking of course, consoles are impractical anyway, regardless of choice. And you probably think "next zelda will be the only exclusive worth a shit on this". I don't even think "next zelda" is worth even an attention just as much as next god of war doesn't, its prime is outlived, we should be thankful for stuff like craftopia and palworld, because you would waste on zelda just as much as on that junk.

>>1061616 His bait was the clearest of all bait in this bait thread.

Any gaems announced?

>>1061627 >Impossible to talk about on a videogames board To be fair, there is not much to talk about, since we don't know anything about hardware or it's game launch lineup. All we have is the name Switch 2, and and idea of how it will look, but not how well it will feel in one's hands. I guess we could talk about the thing to put the Switch 2 on a table, that looks like an improvement from the first console.

>>1061627 But >>1061537-anon is right. it does look like iphone ad. The hell there's to discuss? Japanese Tablet with Buttons 2. Sequel to Japanese Tablet with Buttons 1. Inspired by chinese big Tablet with Buttons, that was just PSP but with bigger screen running android.

>>1061613 >I usually ignore sperging to play my Switch games. That's actually fun. Understandable, but that's their intended effect, and how mentally ill vocal minorities colonize places, and those places resound opinions uncommon IRL. Everyone else is busy IRL, or like >>1061627, disengage from places swarmed by the mentally ill.

Speaking of the add, we could also compare the reveal add of the first Switch, vs Switch 2. In my opinion the first one has more personality and effort put into it, kids nowadays would probably spout something like soul vs soulless, but they also had to put the extra effort, both to introduce casuals to the idea of a hybrid consoles, and make the m forget the Wii U was even a thing. >Sega, Konami, NEC, Bamco, 3DO, and Atari Yeah, but those companies haven't had a console in decades, they don't need to protect a brand.

>>1061630 There's not much to discuss but the thread's not discussing the "not much" either. It's an unmitigated clusterfuck co-opted by the mentally ill to spam ragebait.

>>1061642 eh it's not usually this bad, this thread in particular set it off

>>1061642 Well you can talk with me. Is there anything in particular you would like to discuss about the reveal? Already mentioned the stand, and the add compared to the one for previous Switch.

>>1061649 Since nobody brought it up, there seems to be a new button underneath the home button. What do you think this is? A new feature that they didn't announce yet?

In fact here is something that even anti-Nintendo fags can latch on. The connector to the joycon. It looks so flimsy, if I were to have a Switch 2, I would be afraid of ever disconnecting the controller, out of fear that it would break off. I can already see the countless videos of people who just smashed the controller in the console, and broke the connector. If I were them, I would have placed two metal rods, that are a bit longer than the connector, that must first be inserted in the controller, before connection can take place, so even if you were to smash the controller, into the console, it would not break the connector. So something, like my shitty drawing, the two poles, don't actually do anything, they are just there to prevent the connector from bending or snapping. >>1061654 Y-you too... >>1061659 Maybe a record button, like the PS4 had? So that you can upload your epic gameplay moment on TikTok.

>>1061659 From the rumors it's supposed to be for some kind of Miiverse replacement.

Please don't spam the reports with nor post "ragebait" Thank you. Oh, and I'm not too excited for the console itself considering that they didn't even show off any software and are only doing this because all the hardware leaked at CES. If anything I'm disappointed since the leak that the ARMS/Mario Kart team that was supposed to be working on a new Custom Robo game is now looking less likely to be real due to 24 player Mario Kart 9 being announced

>>1061661 >Maybe a record button, like the PS4 had? Just fyi, you can already record gameplay bits on the current Switch by long-pressing the screenshot button on the left side of the controller/left joycon.

>>1061670 It's Nintendo. You know what software they'll release. A 3D Mario, a 2D Mario, some Zelda, some Kirby, and new F-Zero or Metroid Prime 4 never ever.

>>1061701 Maybe the new animal crossing is actually good.

>>1061704 Now that they know they can get away with less content/effort for the same prince like in New Horizons? Sadly, not happening

>>1061659 It's the button you press to bring up Microsoft GamePass.

>>1061701 I think that's the saddest part. The Switch is perfect for DS-esque smaller titles. And fuck, most of the shit Nintendo put on the DS was amazing. But such an era can't exist with the inflated budgets of games. If they had a dozen or so studios churning out smaller games based on their IPs at least once per month, it'd be a great year in gaming. At the very least they could try to remake the 3ds/ds titles for the Switch. Kid Icarus with proper twin sticks alone would be a massive improvement.

>>1061701 Well Prime 4 will probably come out next year, I'm just hoping they'll do more IP revivals like they've been doing recently.

Wheres the stupid nigger that was MUH MUH MUH ANOTHER EBIN FILTRATION MUJ MUH SWITCH 2 NEVER EVER yesterday? I want to laugh at his fucking face

>>1061445 Lmao fucking stupid retard

>>1061547 Just link it up, You nigger https://youtu.be/Cb-srOfRqNc?si=LRgnbbHC4oaEw0nT <Inb4 JEWTUBE? OUTRAGEOUS! MY EYES! Suck My Cock, i'm running out of time to go to work

>>1061722 >time to go to work >at 4pm Are you a harlot?

Shit was so boring it makes you wonder why so many children sperged out about it. The reveal that full backwards compatibility was off the table was icing on the crapcake. At this point the tech in it is outdated and it's probably weaker than your average phone these days. The only thing I could gleam from this is that cargo cult hype culture is a social cancer.

>>1061709 >The Switch is perfect for DS-esque smaller titles. It really isn't for several factors, ranging from how the Switch is literally "too big" of a system to how the system is "too powerful" for it's own good. Problems the Switch 2 doubles down on. The Switch and it's imitators, for all intents and purposes, make it will known to the word that their goal is to make "home gaming" portable. And while that sound like it's just being "convenience" (Like the earlier TurboExpress and Sega Nomad), the reality is that it results in developers of having a mindset now that portable games must ALSO have AAA production values and expectations since you'll be playing the same game, that would normally appear on a 60" television, on a screen that's one foot from your face and 6-8 inches in size. Gone are the days where sub-480p resolutions and high quality pixel art are acceptable. And if you think I'm exaggerating, developers like Raisin Man already pointed out this problem back in 2007 when comparing the DS to the PSP: https://archive.ph/RsAfo >And when it comes to doing stylus-only gameplay, was that something that you set out to do from the very first with this title, or was it something that developed as you realized you could do this? <TI: It certainly was what I envisioned from the beginning. In fact, when Nintendo first announced the specs of its unit, it was around the time that Sony was also announcing that they were bringing out the PSP. When I looked at the estimated specs of both, I knew which platform I wanted to work on. Basically what we see here today is the culmination of that vision that I have had since then. It has taken a while to get this far, of course. And I am sure that you, or people like you, might wonder, "If the visual is so important, then why choose DS over the PSP?" <The reason is because the PlayStation Portable is basically designed on the philosophy of having a console that you can take with you. They are basically just toning down what we see on home consoles such as the 360 or the PS3; whereas the DS was looking at a whole new method of input. Just as I said earlier, one of the key aspects of game design is the interactivity between the user's input and what happens on the screen, so I thought: here is a chance to do something totally original, using the strengths of this hardware. If I was going to make a game for PSP, I would be better off making a game for PS2, because they are essentially attempting to do the same thing. Same thing here. If a developer is making a game for the Switch, it's pretty much going to be the same game you'd expect to see produced on the NoGames5, the SexBox, and/or PC. It will not be some silly smaller JRPG like the pre-PS1 Final Fantasy titles, or crazy experiments like Elite Beat Agents and Pheonix Wright. Yes, you'll still see some of those coming out, but as entirely Indie productions, legacy series, or remakes of older games. Not entirely new projects by big name companies. And this has resulted in a situation, that the Switch is already very much steeped in, where no one is happy about the circumstance as you have smaller games that feel "cheap" in delivery and larger games not optimized for the system they're being played on. Let's put this in another light. Imagine if Nintendo treated Emio as being JUST as important of a title as the next full 3D Mario, Zelda, or Xenoblade. Or comparable to the like of Sega's Yakuza, Square's Dragon Quest, Activison's Call of Duty, and Ubishit's AssCreed. Would you find that acceptable for a "full HD system" that's capable of playing games like Neir: A Tomato, Doomsiders, and RE8?

>>1061730 >The reveal that full backwards compatibility was off the table was icing on the crapcake That was just their Get Out of Jail Free card in case some obscure kusoge doesn't work on Switch 2, or games that heavily relied on Infra Red and Bluetooth like Labo and maybe RingFit. The vast majority of games will most likely be backwards compatible.

Now that I think about it... is "Switch 2" even really a new console at all, or is it just an upgraded Switch which may have a handful of exclusive games, but really the vast bulk of it's library would be Switch games running at higher resolution. And Nintendo's real next-gen system is still a few years off. Because wasn't that what they tried with the "New3DS", and it was a miserable failure. Releasing a "Switch Pro" as the Switch 2 and not making it clear that it's not their next gen system will piss off a lot of people in three years when they move on from Switch to a new next-gen product line.

>>1061738 Well form factor wasn't going to change all that much, since tehy kinda know what's comfortable to hold in people's hands and what isn't, we are past the N64 controller days. As for hardware, I guess it's like asking if the RTX 5090 is truly a new graphics card, or if it's just an upgraded RTX 2060, we haven't had some major hardware revolution in the past years, so the Switch 2, will just be a more powerful Switch, the same way a 5090 is a more powerful 2060.

>>1061730 >At this point the tech in it is outdated and it's probably weaker than your average phone these days. Something about diminishing returns in each generational jump and all that jazz. Complaining about the hardware being "outdated" gets rather silly at this point if the end results between platforms are virtually the same. And your average phone doesn't have thermal solutions to dissipate the heat so its pretty specs get completely hard-kneecapped in comparison.

>>1061738 The N3DS was not a new console, it was just a revision that technically happened to have an exclusive or two (similar to the DSi). Nobody had any illusions that it was their actual next generation platform. The Switch 2 is clearly intended to be their flagship for the next generation, and they'd be retarded not to be making large first party games exclusively for it.

>>1061736 >That was just their Get Out of Jail Free card in case some obscure kusoge doesn't work on Switch 2, or games that heavily relied on Infra Red and Bluetooth Possibly, but we don't know. Even then, I don't remember such asterisks being applied to Nintendo advertising the backwards compatibility of previous systems, such as: >Wii <Doesn't work with GC attachments or capabilities, like the LAN functionality and Game Boy Player >3DS/DSi <Not compatible with NDS games and features requiring the GBA port, like Guitar Hero: On Tour, transferring in Pokemon, or the rumble pack for Star Fox >Wii U <Not compatible with games requiring the GC controller ports, such as everything from Brawl to DDR >>1061744 >and they'd be retarded not to be making large first party games exclusively for it. Are you implying the possibility of another NG5 situation, where all of the "big" games are also released on the previous system but just lacking all the pretty new tech and graphical "upgrades".

>>1061745 >Even then, I don't remember such asterisks being applied to Nintendo advertising the backwards compatibility of previous systems You also have to bear in mind there are billions of Switch games present on the Eshop (including the "Hentai" AI shit) and therefore no way to test them all. But I would be surprised if even one or two games from my own huge library were having compatibility issues on the successor.

>>1061732 I've pretty much felt the same thing and have posted about it before but you described it far better than I ever have. Nintendo really does need a lower powered handheld platform to take the place of their Gameboy and the later DS line.

Also what the fuck happened to people in this thread and the Nintendo Switch thread? Why are they so worried that people will get confused and not know that the Switch 2 is a new console that is the sequel to the first console? Because it has a 2? Because it looks similar to the original one? I know it's fun to make fun of normalfags and call them dumb cattle, yet they have no problem going to the cinema to watch sequels of movies they already saw without going "Avengers 2? But I already saw Avengers in the cinema a few years ago, why are they showing the same movie again?" They have no problems distinguishing graphic cards, without going "you are telling me the RTX 2060 differs from the 5090?? How could I possibly tell they are different?" or even with games, shockingly games know the existence of sequels, and will buy one, whether it has a 2 or a 3, like AssCreed 2 and 3, or if it has a subtitle like AssCreed Unity or Origins, even if the games look the same, people still manage to distinguish them. There were also anons talking about how the 360 was a bad name, or that putting 2 on the console was a bad move, at this point it sounds like the only thing that is good, is to always name your console something else, and make it look completely different(GameCube, Wii, Switch). The 360 and the One weren't bad names, in of themselves, but because they were attached to the XBox brand, Microsoft should have released the Xbox 360, but the OrangeSphere, and then the GalaxyQuest, and then the USquare or some shit like that. In fact, Nintendo should have released pic related, call it the Nintendo Bling Bang!, it has one screen in each controller, so people will know it's completely different from the Switch, but that also means they won't know it's backwards compatible with the Switch, or that it has anything to do with the Switch, but apparently this is waht people who live in LaLa land, think it's a good move, and not calling your console the Switch 2, because people don't understand the concept of sequels. /rant

>>1061670 >they didn't even show off any software and are only doing this because all the hardware leaked at CES. It does feel like they only did this because of the leaks, that did not feel like a proper console reveal.

>>1061749 >Why are they so worried that people will get confused and not know that the Switch 2 is a new console that is the sequel to the first console? It's more the joke of what's the point to the system if it's just going to be literally a "Switch Pro" in execution. >I know it's fun to make fun of normalfags and call them dumb cattle, yet they have no problem going to the cinema to watch sequels of movies they already saw without going "Avengers 2? Anon, when console games first started up, you had a lot of pissed off parent that refused to buy the SNES because they already had an NES. Not to mention how a big part of why Apple declined during the 90's was because of them having too many devices to the point that even Apple employees didn't quite understand what the actually difference was (And was one of the first things Steve fixed when he returned). >the One weren't bad names Stopped reading there, You're retarded.

>>1061749 grasping at straws because they feel insecure or threatened by the 2019 tablet replacing the 2014 tablet

>>1061757 >It's more the joke of what's the point to the system if it's just going to be literally a "Switch Pro" in execution. How would you make a sequel to the Switch then? Make it look completely different? Change the name entirely? Reinvent the hardware so it's not backwards compatible anymore? Release the Nintendo Bling Bang? >Stopped reading there You should have continued, I intentionally made up some even shittier names for the sequel of the original Xbox. I am also tired and should go to bed, as a result I made plenty of typos. It should have been "The 360 and the One weren't bad names, in of themselves, they were bad, because they were attached to the name 'Xbox', Microsoft shouldn't have released the Xbox 360, they should have released the OrangeSphere and then the GalaxyQuest, and then the USquare or some shit like that."

Anybody else think this seems like a really bad idea calling it The switch 2? I feel like that's going to be a problem for normies just like the Wii U. Then again the Wii was pretty much dead by the time Wii U was announced and switch is still pretty hot from what I understand so maybe that's all that matters. But I'm sure we're going to get a lot of complaints about idiots buying switch two games for their original switch and not understanding hardware differences just because of the name unless they do backwards compatibility stuff sort of like Sony did with the first PlayStation 5 games also working on PlayStation 4. Not to mention the number two on something seems like it's weaker than everything else that has a higher number like PlayStation 5 at least that was the thought back in the day when Xbox named their thing the Xbox 360 instead of the Xbox 2... I don't know maybe the name of something doesn't matter. Maybe everybody was just tired of the gimmicky Wii controls and bad graphics and that's why anything that held its name failed. I'm assuming there's been way less garbage software on the switch compared to the Wii? (And of course the DS)

>>1061757 >the One weren't bad names <Stopped reading there, You're retarded. He's double retarded. Xbox 360, Xbox One, and Xbox Series join Wii U as the stupidest console names. PlayStation did it right. 2, 3, 4, 5. Obvious progression. Normalfags not into games don't know where the fuck an Xbox 360 is. 360's bigger than One, so after One, right? And One's the first? It's One, that starts a series. Where's Series? Is that all Xboxes? What normalfag not into games fucking knows? Terrible names, just conveying confusion.

>>1061765 >Is that all Xboxes Yes.

>>1061765 Let's not derail the thread too but, but Xbox Series X/S is one of the funniest naming conventions I've seen. That and its total lack of games are probably why its sold so poorly. It's especially funny as there was an "Xbox One X". Not confusing at all, normalfags are totally going to understand the difference between the Xbox Series S, Xbox One X, and Xbox Series X.

>>1061761 >How would you make a sequel to the Switch then? Make it look completely different? Change the name entirely? Reinvent the hardware so it's not backwards compatible anymore? Release the Nintendo Bling Bang? Make the "Switch 2" it's own dedicated system, but reduced to be the same size as a PS Vita. Meanwhile go back to making a dedicated home console that does one thing and one thing only: PLAY VIDEO GAMES. But even then, don't really know what to do from there because the problem with modern gaming is that companies are so focused on pushing the "next cutting edge game" rather than actually refining games that exist, or even returning to past concepts that either weren't or couldn't be properly implemented in the past. So putting out a new more powerful console when power isn't an issue seems like a waste of time and money. Just look at how 75% of TotK was just a copy-pasta work from BotW, yet the game ran much worse regarding it's performance. >>1061765 >He's double retarded. Xbox 360, Xbox One, and Xbox Series join Wii U as the stupidest console names. The 360 actually is a "cool name", alongside names like Jaguar, Dreamcast, Saturn, etc. That's the biggest reason why it's so remembered. And I actually sort of miss consoles having rather esoteric names attached to them rather the more conventual names we now have.

>>1061749 >There were also anons talking about how the 360 was a bad name, or that putting 2 on the console was a bad move, at this point it sounds like the only thing that is good, is to always name your console something else, and make it look completely different(GameCube, Wii, Switch). Naming something completely different is good when it's an actually different device. In those cases, all of those were significantly different devices from what came before it. If it's succeeding the previous console, as in that its largely similar just more powerful with more features, simple numbering is fine (even if a bit boring). >>1061762 Nah, it's fine. A more creative name would have been nicer but it works for what it is. >>1061765 >normalfags not into games did not know what a 360 is I swear every time a new console releases, everyone's braincells die off at astonishing rates. Nigger, what platform did you think people were playing CoD, GTA, NBA, FIFA, Madden, and Halo on in the 2000s? The overpriced PS3 which only caught up by the end of the generation? The underpowered Wii with waggle? You honestly think that normalfags didn't know what a fucking Xbox 360 was? Are you dense?

>>1061765 >>1061775 To be fair Microsoft's naming conventions have been terrible, even the name Xbox... Wasn't great. but eventually like anything people got used to it. the whole "series" thing was really stupid and annoying. especially for anybody that's even on the periphery of video games. On a side note think the idea behind getting rid of games as physical media and not making disc drives or cartridge slots standard on next-gen consoles is a really great way to devalue video games as a product and make consumers who are already tired of high prices rebel against the concept of $70 plus dollar video games. People have already been trained to see downloaded titles as cheap and free to play. of course maybe the point is to turn everything into a live service type game with endless microtransactions... I don't see that as sustainable either. not every game can be fortnite, or cod.

>>1061765 >>1061770 >He's double retarded. Xbox 360, Xbox One, and Xbox Series join Wii U as the stupidest console names. >PlayStation did it right. 2, 3, 4, 5. Obvious progression. >Normalfags not into games don't know where the fuck an Xbox 360 is. 360's bigger than One, so after One, right? And One's the first? It's One, that starts a series. Where's Series? Is that all Xboxes? What normalfag not into games fucking knows? Terrible names, just conveying confusion. <Let's not derail the thread too but, but Xbox Series X/S is one of the funniest naming conventions I've seen. That and its total lack of games are probably why its sold so poorly. <It's especially funny as there was an "Xbox One X". Not confusing at all, normalfags are totally going to understand the difference between the Xbox Series S, Xbox One X, and Xbox Series X. Economically, countable names are the best: clear what they are in their series, and how they relate to others in that series. >>1061775 I said normalfags NOT INTO GAMES didn't know WHERE the fuck an Xbox 360 is, not normalfags don't know what it is, ESL. But normalfags did know Wii better, Wii broke 100 million, no Xbox did. Sales aren't about power or Wii and Switch would have flopped. Not naming your console retarded sells more consoles. Microsoft outside Xbox, with Windows, even changed from 98, XP, and Vista to 7, 8, 10, and 11.

Can you guys put the console name stuff into its own thread? It's an interesting discussion, but not necessarily related to the Switch 2 itself.

>>1061788 What else is there really to discuss at this time though? It's just going to be the switch with a bigger screen different color scheme and higher specs and backwards compatibility. Probably the most boring thing they could have done but also the most intelligent at this point considering how bad the last couple of gimmicks they've tried haven't mounted too much (nobody needed a second screen on their controller and nobody really cared about the 3D on the 3DS it seems like)

>>1061788 Made the thread >>1061794

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>>1061808 >>1061829 Should have posted this actually.

>>1061543 I do. This was over a decade ago, too. A lot of older consoles are getting cheaper, but I hope you know how to repair stuff since some of those capacitors might've corroded already (or some other part might've gotten old).

>>1061736 It was, but this thread's still swamped by aggressive pretense what will impact only the tiniest minority, will be normal, like broken compatibility, or Switch 2s bricking.

Picrel is allegedly what the Switch 2 specs will look like compared to Switch 1. Safe to assume these are legit considering everything else that was leaked about the console. https://archive.ph/6f9c8

>>1061933 >128 bit cpu system that exists now?

>>1061934 >>1061933 Oh shid guys, its an actual Nintendo 128.

>>1061933 >1536 CUDA Cores I think that is just a bit above a PS4, which is what I was expecting from the Switch 2, but it is certainly above a GTX 1060(only 1280 CUDA Cores), but with more VRAM which is always good. >>1061934 It's probably just marketing, especially since the hardware section of the 128-bit computing wiki page is so small. Also, even if your device had a Petabyte of RAM, that means 1024 terrabytes of RAM, you could still fit the addresses on a 64-bit processor. I mean, a 64 bit processor address 16 exabytes of memory, that's 16 times 1024 petabytes. We most likely won't need a 128-bit processor in the next few decades. I mean yes, you can make one, but for what purpose? With that said, it's just says that the bus width is 128 bits, not that the CPU is 128 bits, and that seems to be something in the GPU domain, like how the 3060 ti has 256 bit bus width.

>>1061938 >>1061940 And the bit thing was more of a marketing term than actual useful hardware spec information but when we were kids we believed it because you know 8-bit versus 16-bit meant better because that's how the commercials and the magazines explained it anyway. If I remember correctly though stuff like the PC engine was actually an 8-bit CPU but it's graphical capabilities were still closer to 16 bit. Also I remember hearing stuff like about the Nintendo 64 not actually being a real 64-bit system, same thing with the Dreamcast and Playstation 2 not actually being 128-bit consoles as they had been advertised in some places, otherwise I don't think we would be able to emulate them with 64-bit and 32-bit hardware like we have today

>>1061659 >>1061661 What I want to know is why did they make it less colorful? It's more colorful than the initial grey Switch 1 but the Gill flavored Switch has been around for so long that I feel like that is the default Switch, and they even still reference that design with the S2. So why go this direction?

>>1061984 I assume they will bring back the colored version later, after "we have listened to our fans, and have decided to bring back the original color palette" for some good press. As for why make the first version black, I think there is this dumb idea in all marketing departments, not just consoles, that there are only 5 acceptable colors, including black and white, that your device can have, or people will think it's a children's toy, so whatever colors, Samsung has for their phones, those are the only acceptable colors anyone can use.

>>1061987 >or people will think it's a children's toy Mah boi a children's toy is what all true consoles should strive for!

>>1061992 No! It's a mature electronic for mature people like me, dad! Only boomers like transparent devices.

>>1061933 >>1061940 Switch 2 also has 12GB DDR5 RAM and I think PS4 Pro has 8GB DDR5 RAM.

>>1061933 So it's essentially a portable PS4 Pro, cool

>>1061996 I'm pretty sure it's shared RAM though, which means 4GB for the OS and functions like recording gameplay and 8GB for actual games. Not sure if it's also shared VRAM?

>>1061996 >>1061997 >>1061999 PS4 Pro shares RAM too.

>>1061994 Every once in a while I look through my vidya folder and come across console concepts and I always just make myself depressed. Fucking shit ass gay iFuture bullshit we're stuck in I hate it.

>>1062002 retarded ergonomics, thank god you're not leading design

>>1062003 The exact ergonomics are negotiable but I'd rather have fun peripherals than what we have. At least the Wii tried even if 90% was just plastic snap on shells. Speaking of retarded ergonomics the PS5 controller doesn't feel good at all.

>>1061938 Super Mario 128 may finally be real.

>>1062004 It'll get fun peripherals, they always do.

>>1062006 What fun peripherals did the Switch get? I mean LABO was kind of a fun concept for a toy but that's not exactly what I mean.

>>1062007 In your controller context, these are fun.

>>1062008 I decided to also look some up myself because I thought I must have missed something. Apparently I sort of have. It's something at least.

>>1061997 Whether the Switch 2's specs are, I'm not worried either way. Like I expect a port of Elden Ring on the hybrid console for instance and it will look virtually indistinguishable from other platforms. And it's not like games will evolve much from that example and for the years to come either, so even the accusations of being an "already outdated" hardware won't stick as well.

>>1061997 It's a Playstation 4.5 due to the improved GPU as >>1061940 Says

>>1061934 That's the databus, it's not going to use 128-bit addressing. The only computers to ever actually do that were mainframes as far as I'm aware, 64-bit integers are so large (roughly 18.4 quintillion in decimal) there are few practical reasons to exceed them. It just makes calculations more computationally expensive.

>>1062015 It already roflstomps the shitty PS4/Xbone Jaguar CPU, so it being ahead, but still behind PS5's CPU *only* due to portable efficiency due to being custom architecture is already a positive sign. I promise you the moment it is able to be overclocked we are going to see this thing fly, quite literally due to the fan going crazy lol. The GPU is promising too, having 1060, grazing 1070 levels of performance is going to be nutty as fuck compared to last gen, especially with Nintendium DLSS. I'm optimistic with hardware, software tho...hope you enjoy playtroonic games.

>>1062012 >Whether the Switch 2's specs are, I'm not worried either way. Like I expect a port of Elden Ring on the hybrid console for instance and it will look virtually indistinguishable from other platforms. And it's not like games will evolve much from that example and for the years to come either, so even the accusations of being an "already outdated" hardware won't stick as well. "Portable PS4.5" should run modern multiplatforms well, tough for Switch but not 2. I have them on PC but portability is nice. I wouldn't care if specs were PS2, hardware doesn't interest me. Great exclusives like Switch interest me, Nintendo's strong there so I expect them. We only know Mario Kart so far because CES forced a Switch 2 reveal, we'll learn more before April.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/6298vs2763/ARM-Cortex-A78AE-8-Core-1984-MHz-vs-AMD-Athlon-5370-APU Switch 2 CPU vs. Desktop PS4 CPU comparison

>>1062024 Doesn't the Switch 2 use a CPU with an integrated graphics card, while the PS4 has a dedicated GPU? If so, it's weird to just compare their CPUs.

>>1062015 What I meant is we already have impressive ports of PS4 games with the first Switch (Nier Automata, EDF4.1, Ace Combat 7, etc.) with relatively minor concessions, so the Switch 2 is obviously going to be a leap on that department and make the lines that separate between platforms even blurrier. Even a slow turtle like Nintendo was bound to catch up with the competition once we've reached a hard ceiling of what the games can feasibly do technology-wise. And I doubt many games will be requiring stronger hardware than the Switch 2 unless optimization shenanigans happen. It amuses me when the Ryu ga Gotoku and Ace Combat studios didn't even bother to test the Switch hardware and its capabilities until very recently, and only because they had no choice due of the current business situation in their home market.

>>1062029 Ps4 used an apu.

>>1062024 The ps4 had 8 cores so that's not an entirely fair comparison.

>>1061987 >pic First glance I thought you posted the sony xperia

>>1062002 >WarioWare Bop-It is a thing that could technically exist We live in the worst timeline.

>>1062032 >And I doubt many games will be requiring stronger hardware than the Switch 2 unless optimization shenanigans happen. I wouldn't be surprised if we see some developers complaining about "Muh underpowered hardware" when they already admitted almost a year ago that they weren't even using the PS5 to it's fullest extent over the past several years.

>>1062064 The PS5 and Switch are not remotely comparable in power. The Switch is basically a smartphone from 2014.

>>1062014 That's great, Switch 2 at PS 4.5 power, for a portable, was more than I expected, I'm optimistic and waiting to see the launch lineup.

>>1061623 Mario Kart 9, from the looks of it. >>1062008 >8bitdo Could you really say the Switch "got" these since Nintendo didn't make them and you can use them on other consoles?

>>1062141 Yeah I could, like the Switch got games Nintendo didn't make. Nintendo did make these cool official controller themes.

A lot of 8bitdo controllers are Nintendo themed and work on Switch.

>>1062147 The Nintendo Switch Pro Controller may be Nintendo's best, I use it for Switch and PC.

Did they add Hall Effect thumbsticks or what?

>>1062156 8bitdo does Hall Effect thumbsticks, and GuliKit makes 100% fittable Hall Effect thumbsticks to drop into Nintendo-made Switch controls with no hassle.

>>1062155 8BitDo Ultimate 2C shares Switch controller design and works with both too.