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How to fix vocal minorities? Anonymous 12/29/2024 (Sun) 20:06:30 Id: ebc7cd No. 1055349
>game is enjoyed by majority as it is >minority see it doesn't suits their worldview >band up with their small group of friends and start bombarding the companies with complaints and takes >majority doesn't bother to respond or give a fuck because they have actual lives and things to do >companies thought the minority opinion is the majority and bends to their views >now the game is the minoritys personal fucktoy and another game is ruined How can we fix this? Most people have actual lives to live and can't afford to fight competitive autists, cultural warriors and so all day...
>>1055349 ur black
>>1055349 Nigger, most people on this board fit the bill of a "vocal minority". The irony of your retarded post is that the majority usually are just cattle who will buy something until its not popular anymore, whereas a vocal minority care enough to do something about it.
As this year proved that even normalfags have limits, it took a decade but even they couldn't stomach the bullshit anymore. This is why so many sjw games failed and it's why Trump won again, as they simply couldn't tolerate the pan boiling any further.
>>1055353 It takes another vocal minority (most people on this board) to fight the vocal minority ruining modern games, but the vocal minority ruining modern games controls the establishment while most people on this board don't.
One of the most annoying "vocal minority" groups in vidya are the YouTube grifters, a subset of "cultural warriors" you mention. TheQuartering, SmashJT, ENDYMIONtv, Vara Dark, all those people who release low-effort daily outrage slop to farm adrev. These people and their ilk have completely overtaken certain vidya discussions to the point of insanity, and their criticisms are always just retarded. Remember when Starfield came out and they only thing they cared about was pronouns and vitiligo, not the game being a shallow boring mess? The games they focus on are usually shit but all they talk about is usual culture war horseshit. It's a kind of brainrot, the very legitimate concerns during the early GG era dialed up to the point of self-parody. Going from "games media and some games have an issue with overt identity politics" to "if a character is a woman/non-white the game is SJW DEI woke woke woke", ironically becoming the identity politics. How to fix it? Honestly a lot of it comes down to ignoring them, these people thrive on outrage and trolling, if they get no response they put in no effort. There was an attempted campaign against Baldur's Gate 3 for some equally dumb shit that fizzled out because both gamers and the devs just ignored it, they'll probably try the same thing with GTA6 and that will also fail because your average normalfag casual who plays GTA is very offline and politically apathetic. TL;DR don't feed the trolls. I don't want this post to be taken the wrong way, because annoying SJW shit in absolutely still in games as seen with Failguard, but genuine SJW crap rarely sells, e.g Dustborn and Concord. Just like the cultwar grifters, SJWs are a tiny minority in reality. They also attempted their own gayops campaign against Hogwarts Legacy, it went nowhere and the game continues to be one of the bestselling of the decade. Trying to loosen the definition to include games like Horizon and Stellar Blade is not only disingenuous, but would require retroactively including a ton of games like Mirror's Edge and Left 4 Dead.
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>>1055349 >How can we fix this? I have a solution.
>>1055349 Stop paying for live-service/dlc/autoupdate garbage.
>>1055370 >SmashJT I don't have nearly as much an issue with him since he told the tradcucks and others who want to censor weeb games to fuck off.
>>1055370 >SJWs are a tiny minority in reality. Nigger they have establishment control and infrastructural control of a lot of shit still.
>>1055391 No, they have retarded women who think they can't have abortions if they don't support them.
>>1055374 HITLER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>1055374 >Runs his campaign for presidency on kicking out the Jews <Proceeds to staff the military with Jews <Allows Jews to continue making media <Even give the "Honorary Aryan" title to Jews Even Hitler wasn't really Hitler.
>>1055427 He was in my timeline.
>>1055370 I'm glad I'm not the only one who has been getting annoyed by this subgroup of individuals. As someone who largely agrees with the criticisms they levy, and is noticing that the broader cultural shift is steering away from the things they're criticizing, I still find them pretty insufferable, to the point where I pretty much straight-up won't watch content with clickbait titles/thumbnails that CAPITALIZE certain WORDS. Even if they're correct. I'd say it's less about the criticisms themselves being retarded, but failing to dig deeper into them. I think there's also a notable distinction between people who sincerely hold their opinions and people who will simply go for low-hanging fruit because it's easy money. And there's usually some degree of grey area between the two. "Don't Feed the Trolls" is still sage advice. If a game is successful enough on its own, then there's no reason to listen to extremists on either end. The only reason to engage is for easy press if your game is gonna be fucked if you don't.
>>1055440 Like at least with Smash JT while an outrage channel, he actually believes games shouldn't be censored or have poltical cancer regardless of side. This isn't to say I like the guy but respect that a hell of a lot more then his peers.
>>1055427 Too kind to live up to all the atrocity propaganda & too compassionate even to those who ruthlessly sought the destruction of his people. Sad outcome, but a lesson to others that such enemies cannot be offered compassion. >>1055370 >How to fix it? Honestly a lot of it comes down to ignoring them If no one is actively claiming the spaces & influence they dominate then you will be dominated by them. Take control & gatekeep; that's how they operate. Profit loss is irrelevant to them. >>1055349 The infestation is still quite bad & it's difficult to undermine true zealots who have browbeaten everyone around them into cowardice. Perhaps the best you can hope for is the younger generation growing up under this ugliness will be radicalized to levels no one has seen before causing them to thoroughly & ruthlessly uproot the problem for good.
>>1055374 >>1055451 >guys, it's simple, you just have to follow a drugged out methhead who was a political and military failure Nazi larpers are such losers man
>>1055370 I don't watch any of those guys, in fact the only one I think I'd recognize is The Quatering, and yes, he spams low effort videos with practically no content. So I don't click them. That said, I think it's insane for you to pretend they've "overtaken vidya conversations." To say that is to ignore the group that has taken over the conversation so hard that they get the games made the way they want, that group being the SJWs. They've taken over the conversation hard enough that devs actually listen to them. You're doing the classic "well the people who notice are just as bad!" But it's doubly stupid because the people you're complaining about aren't nearly as loud as influential. It's not even close. If they were, we'd be getting games they like, instead of the shit we have been getting. The games you complain about them complaining about are also all SJW shit, but you're just the frog who sat there and got boiled slowly enough that you don't care. There's a big difference between Horizon and Mirror's Edge. Now, if you wanted to say Horizon was like Mirror's Edge 2, then sure. Your argument is ridiculous SJWism, and I'd just ignore you as an outright troll if it wasn't for your spoiler section, which is also stupid but implies sincerity. So I'll try to actually explain. But you know full fucking well that the problem has never been "a character is a woman/non-white." Lara Croft was one of the most popular characters of the late '90s and early 2000s. There's a big difference between the original Lara Croft and the new Lara Croft. Gravity Rush 2 came out in 2018, deep into the SJW era, yet nobody complained that that game was SJW. Hmm. It's almost as if it's about the politics influencing the game. The devs didn't make Gravity Rush star a female character to make a political point about feminism. If they did, Kat would have been made uglier on purpose, and would have acted like an arrogant, stuck-up asshole, and all the male characters would have been either doofuses or evil (except for the black ones. They can be love interests). Instead we got a game about a woman that actually acts nice, and the devs weren't afraid to make her look not-ugly, and the story and characters weren't designed specifically to push propaganda. And everyone loves it. What a surprise. But no, Concord has dug a pit in the ground so that it could lower the bar into it, and now nothing can be recognized as SJW unless it goes that low. I think it's also foolish to pretend that when devs are infected by these politics, which are openly anti-merit (merit is racist/sexist, so don't hire based on who is actually best at the job) and anti-art (all art is propaganda anyway, so make it propaganda on purpose), this won't result in worse output. It's not a coincidence that SJW games are bad at being games. Not only is being a game not the primary goal (being propaganda is), but they don't hire developers based on who is the best at making game. All the hallmarks of SJWism that we easily recognize are not just ways to avoid their propaganda, they're ways to avoid games that would be boring even if they weren't buggy. People need to speak up more and make the developers, as well as the casuals, realize that it has been just not only a vocal, but a crazy minority that has been using unscrupulous means to gain control. Step 2 is that the casuals stop buying, which is happening, and Step 3 is that the industry will have to shift. Those that listen to actual consumers will make money, those that listen to a vocal minority that actively hates regular people will lose money. It's been happening, and what you've seen the last few years is companies that have been infiltrated by the vocal minority being steered into suicide by those infiltrators. So be it. They're still losing money, and people who make what consumers actually want will still have an easier time making money. It takes time, but it's happening. >>1055391 Yes, this thread is specifically about vocal minorities, and how they gain control. >>1055428 In the Berenstein timeline, the holocaust was real.
>>1055776 >Yes, this thread is specifically about vocal minorities, and how they gain control. Sjws are not a minority while not all economising a plurality of the left are sjws.
>>1055786 "A plurality of the left" is inherently a minority. "A plurality" is a minority, and "the left" is a minority. You literally are saying they're a minority of a minority.
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>>1055561 >t.kike
You fix them with dick.
>>1055796 >t.CIA
1055561 0/10, not even trying. You don't get a you.
>>1056730 Bane?
>>1055561 you have a secret admirer >>1056734
>>1056757 You can't steal his (You) anon, that's rude.
Have the company be based and check chan boards for better opinions on the game. Not even joking, you fuckers are generally speaking the best set of opinions out there. If they're wanting to go more mainstream, check telegram chats.
>>1056768 Funny enough, I actually agree with you. Especially when compared to something like reddit which encourages a hivemind mentality and Discord which also encourages a hivemind mentality due to certain moderators.
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>>1055349 Monkey's paw: the game is Fallout 3 and you're the minority for not liking it.
>>1055561 >methhead It's funny to me how consumption of some drugs were not viewed negatively back in the past. Japan had a meth problem but didn't really admit it for several years, until they did and somehow blamed Koreans for their addiction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWvKF_Y7u3I >Nazi larpers are such losers man They're larping as losers, what can you expect. The only good thing they have are the cool uniforms.
>>1056772 Small communities with strict moderation cause that hivemind mentality. It's less about the platform and more about the people using them. Even small imageboards are victim to this phenomenon.
>>1055349 This is all a result of gaming being a product for consumers and not something the dev's wanted to make for themselves. I blame modern matchmaking and forced patching as well for taking away the player's final say in whether a buff/nerf/removal was warranted by playing the version of their choice.
>>1057045 Do you think all games are online multiplayer?
>>1057014 >Small communities with strict moderation cause that hivemind mentality. It's less about the platform and more about the people using them. Even small imageboards are victim to this phenomenon. Small communities dumb people down, because the most ill people are the most on small communities, deciding by volume what people see and discuss, and what people don't. All good of something's ignored and only bad's seen and discussed, or all bad's ignored and only good's seen and discussed, warping views of everything.
>>1057189 That image macro hirs really hard. Why do I come here?
were some posts deleted lmao
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>>1055349 >How can we fix this? disrupt the big pharma supply chain
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>>1057194 Because you can speak truthfully and outside of rare cases won't get banned for it
>>1057219 >some posts Not some, 1 on the 29th, when Mark deleted and banned >>1055365 for "Lucy."
>>1057225 >The bill states that "a health care provider providing health services shall be immune from criminal liability for any harm or damages alleged to arise from an act or omission relating to the provision of health services." It does not apply to "gross negligence or wanton, willful, malicious, or intentional misconduct." I can see how it would be important to protect against lawsuit hungry kikes. However you're still correct, cutting SSRI usage in the general populace would help alot.
>>1057246 What's the significance of that word? I'm not on enough to be in the loop of what that word's about.
>>1057249 That word means Luciano, a Brazilian troll with all-or-nothing thought, who posts radicalism like killing and doxing woke people.
>>1057257 Ah ok, thanks for the explanation
>>1057247 it is very difficult to sue doctors/hospitals. this just makes it easier to murder. medical errors are the third leading cause of death in america. also, don't forget birth control pills, std, and aids meds. imagine what chaos that would cause if there was a true shortage.
>>1055776 >Gravity Rush 2 came out in 2018 2017. January 20, 2017 in North America, January 19 in Japan, January 18 in EU.
>>1055561 Such an "political and military failure" that it took billions of men and funding to completely stop him. Meanwhile you lolberts will be always irrelevant for anyone to even notice about, that is unless some memes of yourselves being the punchline go popular.


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