According to Amdusias whom I am working with right now, you are to contact Murmur for this. Info from Lemegeton: https://occult-world.com/murmur/ Summoning details: https://arsgoetiademons.com/blogs/the-72-demons-of-ars-goetia/demon-murmur-the-earl-of-hell#:~:text=Begin%20by%20drawing%20Murmur%27s%20sigil%20on%20a%20piece,conducive%20atmosphere%2C%20and%20recite%20an%20invocation%20to%20Murmur. If you can't do it using the sigil alone, add the materials and symbolism associated with him. For example here you can place a copper coin and something relating to Venus by the foot of a candle as you do the sigil drawing/visualization. For general references on what to expect, check my summoning thread/blog: >>1757 >>2841 Imo best approach is to suggest a pact of mutual benefit for the purpose of spiritual improvement. Avoid material gains, as these demon guides will take it literally and they don't care about anything you "accidentally" left out. For example, one guy shared this turn of events: he contacted someone from the Goetia and asked to get paid leave from work. A few weeks later he had an accident and broke his leg, which gave him paid leave from work. So mind how you phrase your request. Spiritual matters are easier to get right here, as long as you make sure to avoid any such material benefits, your aim should be on your spiritual qualities and not on your physical.

Would you perhaps guess the method murmur might use to accomplish it? I want to know how to prepare before throwing myself in.

>>2844 I asked Amdusias and he showed an image of sexual intercourse as a reply. My interpretation is Murmur would let you work with one of his minions to set your thinking straight, by engaging in spiritual opposite-sex interactions. In my view it's "just" a rewiring of an energy stream in the brain, which is replicated in other parts of the body. But if this was so easy to do, we'd have conventional treatments already. The Goetia demons are very powerful however, so it's possible he may do it as follows: you are given one of his minions/disciples to spiritually embrace during a visualization process while you are in meditation. Then he'll force your brain connection to go via the minion, while he simply cuts of the "homosexual nerve connection", which make your energy flow the other route.

You have to think about what your goal is however. If you just say "cure my homosexuality", he may just turn you bi instead and say "now you aren't homosexual", or he may instead make you asexual. You need to have a clear goal image in mind as well so there is no bad outcome. Be concrete and specific, maybe: >I no longer want to feel sexual attraction or lust towards same sex persons >Instead I want a controllable attraction towards [insert preferred sex object] If you do it like this, visualize strongly what kind of sex object you want your attraction moved to, so it doesn't turn into some weird fetish instead. Think about in what context the attraction should exist, and what outcome it has. Don't be vague, if you were to use just a photo of someone you'd prefer to be attracted to, maybe you just turn into an incel who likes them at a distance, so work through mentally what you want this to be like when you are at your goal.

As strange as it sounds, I do not mind some unintended outcomes. My goal for this is not necessarily to rewire homosexual attraction, but to cure my "role" as a homosexual and to be seen as straight and develop attraction to women enough to live a "conventional" straight marriage with a woman. I like the idea of conversion in a meta sense. It is hard to explain, I apologize.

>>2847 Have you tried using raw mundane logic to determine your sexuality? What is the primary biological function of the testicles? Their function is the creation of sperm. What is the biological function of sperm? Their function is to reproduce. Why does the body create sperm whether you want it to or not? To reproduce. How do you reproduce? By putting your sperm inside of a woman's vagina. A digression here that's probably important to some other people posting here, since this is a chan, and people on chans tend to be quite degenerate; a fertile vagina is one that has hit puberty. However, the vagina simply being fertile isn't quite enough for it to be good enough for your reproductive consideration at the time; the vagina needs to be attached to a woman that's capable of giving birth to your child without dying, so you're gonna wanna wait until the woman is at least 18 so that she can breastfeed and otherwise nurture your child after she gives birth to your child. How do you put your sperm inside of a vagina? First you have to get a boner, and then you put it in the vagina and move it around inside the vagina until the sperm comes out. Why do people get boners in the 1st place? They get boners because their primal instincts want them to put their sperm inside of a vagina so that they reproduce. Why do primal instincts want you to reproduce? Because the primal instincts are solely concerned with the fleshI did say mundane logic, and as far as the flesh is concerned, the flesh will greatly prolong its survival if it creates a child, because the child will contain your flesh, and your child will most likely outlive you by many years, and then go on to create more children that'll outlive them, and such and whatnot. Make sure that your primal instincts don't confuse buttholes or mouths or feet with vaginas; work with your inner animal on this if you need to. Also, in case you or someone else reading this are actually sick enough to be into that shit, don't go around confusing MtFs with actual bona fide women; Y-chromosomes ain't women, and they never will be unless they either become mid-level occultists and learn how to shapeshift into a proper woman, transmigrate their soul into a female organic portal, or simply reincarnate as a woman.

>>2849 If biological argumentations worked, there already wouldn't be any homosexuals. Also Lady Mary was 14 when she birthed Jesus and there was no sperm involved. Aside from that there are many homosexuals who get married, have kids with a woman and then some 10 - 20 years later they come out as gay, get divorced and move in with a man instead. Just being able to ejaculate in a vagina as a result of physical stimulation does not cure homosexuality. I prefer Freud's way of explaining it as a development process, where everyone has a homosexual phase, which is normally passed at some early age, but for some people this development is stalled and they never move ahead. In a Fringe context, this is because of some blocked energy flow, which needs to be solved so they start developing again. If for example someone uses puberty blockers with the intent to turn into a tranny, they further block the natural development and just remain in the homosexual phase which they would otherwise have grown out of. This is proven by the fact that many transsexuals regret their decision when they get a little older, with some "detransitioning" into sexless monstrosities and then killing themselves when they realize they ruined their body. It would be easier if people would just go back and learn of what science existed already 130 years ago. But if accepting progress was a thing, people wouldn't be in this state to begin with.

>>2843 Btw, friend, do you have a place we can discuss questions I have about work with the goetic forces for this challenge?

>>2857 Why not right here?

>>2860 The joke is that it looks like Adremmelech

>>2842 >are best to work with to cure my homosexuality? You need Jesus, son. Homesex COMES FROM the devil, and he's not likely to fix it for you without a heavy cost.

>>3194 >Jesus, son. Homesex Thirteen guys living together and wearing robes is pretty gay tbh.

>>3201 Member that thing with Jesus washing feet? Completely heterosexual behavior. >tfw your bros smell so bad you have to wash them and make it look like a lesson about humility or sg to get out of that hell. >>3194 >Homesex COMES FROM the devil No it comes from the USA >he's not likely to fix it for you without a heavy cost. Also applies to the USA

>>3211 It's not just Americans who have sex at home, I think Chinese also do this. How many countries actually have the love hotel culture, or just checks into hotels to have sex rather than having homesex? Although there is also the outdoor variant, I think that one isn't so widespread.

>>3218 >who have sex at home I thought homesex means having sex with your home. And americans like to fuck their own country so much they are spreading the culture so everyone fucking with their own country as much as they can. I thought that is homesex. While what Jesus did can be called homiesex. Sexing your homies by touching their fleet making them taste your flesh and bodily fluids etc. Very homiesexual. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homiesexual

>>3222 >foot fetishism >cannibalism And you wonder why the Jesuits are mantids. https://www.unilad.com/news/world-news/sancta-susanna-opera-stuttgart-addresses-backlash-264320-20241013 >just christian things

>>3224 >news/world-news/sancta-susanna-opera-stuttgart-addresses-backlash-264320-20241013 Ah. Weimar is returning home

I'm quite aroused by this process itself. To deny one's basest urges and become something natural and useful. How exciting.

>>2842 First take 1 anti-gay.

>>3226 Hopefully, maybe then 2000 year dogma from monks that could barely read and write might finally be questioned. Along with the jew on the stick. Because Christianity is a psyop by Jews against Rome.

>>2842 Become bisexual. Straight people are boring. Affirmations, meditation, visualization, mentalisms/thoughtforms are your friend.