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Summoning Dagon/Dagan Anonymous 07/16/2024 (Tue) 20:20:14 No. 1757
The topic was brought up again so I went for it, I think this was meant to be. Summoning process I'll just walk through what I did and what it lead to and how you do it will probably have to be very personal, but you'll get the general idea. This sigil can be used. I examined its form until I could relate it to the yogic locks and the image of the squatting man seen in old images, then interpreted it as a tantric schematic. This had the effect of gradually connecting me with a place which was grey and dark like a cave with some blue energy and some light yellow. A woman was before me and she also looked grey and dark from the lack of light, this is normal for ancient beings which was now consider "daemons" so nothing to worry about. She was rather tall and looked decently aged, nude with fit shape, saggy tits which were still rather large and overall nice body but timeless as expected of a demon of the stronger kind. She closed in on me with her butt in my direction, sitting down on me in a way so that I was essentially ending up in a sex from behind position with her. My natural ability to project into astral spaces was by now already active and the interaction went on for a few min. A short semi-fat man appeared from the left. He was more like chubby with a belly, not obese by modern standards. He had wide pants and some kind of arabic looking shoes, bare upper body or maybe a very short vest which was open on the front, he had significant hairy chest. His face was very round and he seemed rather sweaty and smelly. He told me to remain in place while he then entered the woman from the front, making our penises touch inside her. As he did this there was an energetic blast and a connection in strong yellow qi was formed horizontally with a strong red line of vertical energy connecting to it. He said the connection was now made and that he had prodded for me to try and do something like this because there is a large distance to modern culture, this board and the people he wants to connect with. I asked if the woman is his wife Ishar, he said yes this is Ishar, but we are not married, she's a temple slut so this is ok. I then had a daughter with her and they both took us over to an altar where I was to hold the daugher on my right side, Ishar then held her and had my right arm linked to her left arm by binding us using a string made from braided flowers. Dagan said some ritual words and there was another energy explosion. He then said we have to make the connection stronger, and he started giving me a blowjob, then he told me we have to also do it in the other direction, but I said, hold it, I'm not doing it like this, so I created a externalized loli form from a cell of my astral body and used that instead. He said this is fine and the magic circle is now active. We then did some ritual work and my astral forms and the daughter are now in the magic circle which is a sealed off space in his temple, where we can stay to practice while at the same time move elsewhere by bilocation or just have normal interactions in the physical while they stay there like statues in meditation. Through the interaction with him I gained control over leviathan which means the world system with all nations. I gave him "the pink armour" which I created to let infernals possess human bodies, and he in return gave me a large gold coin. I was to hold it in my right hand, forming a fist aimed downward and press until there was a sound, then place my left palm below aimed upwards and form an energy pillar between the hands, then let them pass by the palm qi opening into the whole body through all enlightenment levels and then letting the force drop down on the other side as if pulling a cart up a hill and letting it run down the other side on its own. This lead to a strong energy blast breakthrough in my own energy which was to give me control over economy.
This morning I noticed my movement patterns and body perception has changed somewhat, it seems Dagon's way of moving has been incorporated with mine.
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More sharing because it's possibly relevant. https://occult-world.com/amdusias-amduscias/ I've been working to move my main awareness away from the physical to base myself on the astral, in a specific place I want to use as my HQ. The purpose of this is to gain full dimensional mobility so I can body jump or perform possession freely, using any available body of my own creation or if needed, possession of someone else (including NPCs) in first person view, while retaining awareness of my other avatars and all astral tools. Incarnation without losing memories or being "locked" in the form, essentially. I've gradually gotten there, but the ''weight" or karmic gravity of the things I need to handle in here, keeps making it difficult to change these structures. There is a reason I'm here, and I don't intend to leave until I'm done, but when I do I want to be in control. So the idea is to move over to my astral base, then possess my current body again, but this time I can leave when I want, or temporarily move to other places. Getting all the things in place is difficult while in here, so I've asked for help with details along the way many times. Now came the part where I need to actually change the structure or "registration" which tells everyone "this is my main body", so that if dimensions collapse or whatever happens, I will be magnetically pulled back there, and everyone can see that's where I belong. I asked Belial for help with parts of the process before, and it's all good, but the last bit just didn't click in place. Belial is probably the one I like best and find it easiest working with, I no longer need to "call a meeting" to talk with him, but can just use telepathy, as I got closer to him over time. When explaining in concrete detail about what I want to do, he said to contact Amdusias. I have the printed book so I used the sigil from there directly, no ritual, just mediating on it and studying its form until I could begin to understand it and found a connection. Amdusias appeared less scary than the others I've had contact with, but maybe it's just my confidence being stronger now. He still has this attitude which forces one to reply in a concise and clear wording, thinking about every word before letting it out. I explained to him what I want to do, and offered a pact for mutual spiritual improvement. Details left out. He agreed. He said "we'll do this in steps", when I went to sleep. During the night I found myself in various social situations in a place with a dark grey-black-blue light, one-store stone or brick buildings and some walled gardens and trees outside. I was then suddenly "picked up" as if I was in a bag held above my head, and a quick journey began, as if I was a cat held by someone running along a street. A voice said with authority "Silence!" I was at first confused about what this was, but there was a strong force around me and I didn't want to disturb or ruin something, but also wasn't sure if this was a trick, so I let out a short command to a servitor to investigate what was happening. The reply said "it's Amdusias" so I after this did nothing more but wait. I was being pulled out of the way of some paved road with brickwork, which was collapsing. Underground dwellers were hacking away on the road from below, and this was what caused the collapse. It looked a bit like those Jews appearing out from the walls. I was quickly rushed along a cobblestone street and saw another place where the sand gave in and collapsed down into underground tunnels as we passed. We then arrived at a location I consider an astral home, and from there we went to a public place on a hill where I've been doing rituals. He then said "we are done, this is the first step, I'll let you settle here a bit". I realized I was now "based" at Amdusias place instead, and when I woke up I felt and "saw" mentally that I was there, the images of his place kept appearing around the outskirts of my mind, confirming that my place of residence had changed. This went on half the day, with more dedicated interactions with Amdusias taking place. He then said "lie down, we're doing the last bit", and as I went into deep trance, the "journey" began again, with him running quickly with me along a road, he then flew up and grabbed a truck, we then went by the truck until the road became a narrow countryside road by a limestone thatched roof homestead. I felt "I'm home" and at this point I came out of the trance. It appears he did move me to the place I wanted, and the weight of my energy is now settled here. It was very forceful, but I could feel he definitely had the power to do this. I haven't ever felt this kind of power from any other entities, only the Goetian demons can overpower forces like this, out of those I've met so far. It's like their methods focus on weight lifting, while others work intellectually and channel power (which is btw my main method).
Story incoming "Strange Encounters" or Crocell is a slut Info: https://arsgoetiademons.com/blogs/the-72-demons-of-ars-goetia/demon-crocell-the-mermaid-like-enigma-of-demonology Crocell is a djinn, and consequently has no clear sexuality, as djinn have reverse gender roles compared to what we are used to. Among djinn, women are warriors and men give birth. In a strike of perfect imagery, Crocell is depicted wearing programmer socks, and being djinn, is a master of logic and geometry. He is simply the demon guide of programmers. But the story does not start there. It starts elsewhere, higher up in the Imageboard hierarchy. I was browsing on the KC when there was a "girls do porn" thread on the front page with a webm which happened to be just posted. I clicked it, and it was surprisingly hot, so I decided to divine the location of said girl using a servitor. It turned out she was in hell, but wearing a pink scarf, indicating she had been hit with the "loli shield" I mass casted a few years ago to protect girls from harm. Originally it was intentended to give physical protection, but as timelines function as they do, it ended up not giving protection in the case of the entire social system collapsing or other danger. Instead, it simply protected their souls. After which I could get a "notification", usually some message in media drawing my attention to her. So when I said she was in "hell", I mean the astral underground dimensions, and having the protection cast on them, manifests as the pink scarf. It causes them to be placed in a waiting room instead of being sent into the main gehenna dimensions where they punish evildoers. It simply appears as a "someone owns this one, don't touch" -note attached to them, and the demons down there will put her aside in a safe place. But then I have to go fetch them also, and for that to happen I need to know about them. So this happened, I sent a servitor to get the young woman up from there and do a soul cleansing to prepare her for astral re-incarnation. I then used the latest cyborg incarnation form based on magma. Because I wanted her to maintain her original body form, I put work into designing a single use adapted DNA-disc for her instead of using a disc made for mass production. It turned out very good, and I took her on a tour in space and to various magic libraries. She then wanted to stay on a dead desert planet and just meditate there. I agreed and we stayed. She seemed hypnotized by the environment there, the sky is black and green, the landscape is all frozen lakes and beige rocks desert with mountains in the distance. After a while I asked if she wanted to stay there but bilocate to go check out the miniplanet I created to perform rituals on, so we went there and entered the flying Illuminati-style pyramid I have at that place (made to invite people for group rituals also). Because we had been flying in space, and this was the first time in an actual human environment she wanted to take a shower and we went to bed. This lead to her becoming pregnant -' and this is where it got weird, when the girl came our 3 min later, it was clearly Crocell incarnated, the socks were even there still! I have yet to find out the intentions behind this sudden interest in astral physical life.
>>2841 >karmic weight I've always wondered how people on the STS routes deal with this, as it seems at a certain point to collapse on the practioner. Can you go into more detail on how you handle it? Im interested in what you said about how karmic weight means changing structures can be difficult. Ive heard initiates say IRL that STS magus intentionally try to minimize karmic burdens, use delay tactics to push karmic weight into the future, or convince people to buy into bad deals where the counterparty takes on the weight. It sounds like you have a different alternative?
>>3303 I don't know if it's an alternative as such, as it comes from a by-now inborn trait of mine. I do not know if I had this since forever, or if it's acquired sometime in the past. The simple explanation for both the pro and the con is that I don't have the main yang nature. From the mapping I use, the brain has the main yang in the left back, minor yang or animus is right back. Front left is the anima, and the right front half is the main yin. So anything I would have to do which concerns the main positive, I have to use very elaborate concrete methods. It took me a lot of time to realize how or why this works. For example, when learning maths in school I was always told "think this way" and then told how to think. It always puzzled me, because doing maths has nothing to do with thinking to me. I learn how to write. I always write down step for step in the format of algebra, and it works. Over time I recall it and can perform it in visual memory, but it's entirely based on the physical procedure of writing. No thinking involved, I don't have that ability. The upside of this is that I am completely immune to any spiritual or other kinds of attacks that rely on manipulating thinking, including indoctrination using words. They won't stick in my mind. This "space" is instead used to store the karmic weight, and as the brain is said to have a potential eternal storage, I can just contain the negative energy in the corresponding space for any amount of time. Then I'll transform it back to pure matter whenever it's beneficial to do so. One other aspect of this is that my surface body cannot contain negative energy more than 10%. If someone is trying to make my body dirty beyond that, it will cause an automatic cleanse. Any attempt at externally flooding me with negative energy would just give me symptoms of illness and it still won't stick to me. For this reason my mind is always pretty clear, and I won't be fooled into accepting unfavourable idea or concepts, including contract of various kinds. I just won't accept dirty energy from others, in the manner of what people tend to do, like vaccines or accepting ideas of blame for various made up societal "sins", it doesn't stick to me. What I accept has to pass the "physical process" in the manner of "thinking by writing", and anything bad for me would then be exposed, as my way of working requires that I understand what I write, thus also understand what I accept. It's like literal masonry in this sense, can't make the weight fly, it has to be structured.
Adremmelech is a Martian Bill Gates has a revelation a narrative retelling of mysterious events cooperative writing with Copilot as editor In a world where the lines between reality and fiction blur, I found myself on a mission to enlighten Bill Gates. His generous donations to the Harris campaign, though well-intentioned, were rooted in a misunderstanding of the true implications of "women's rights." Unbeknownst to many, this phrase often masked the grim reality of abortion, the silent killer of innocent lives. Bill Gates, a Martian by birth, wielded immense power and influence. Yet, like all beings from the original races, his thinking was marred by significant flaws. My goal was clear: to rescue him from his own ignorance and reveal the stark truths of our world. The origins of Windows 3.11 were shrouded in mystery, crafted by reptilians. Subsequent developments saw contributions from grey aliens, Lyran felines, and even "skinwalkers"—creatures eerily reminiscent of the Predator from the movies. And in a twist of fate, it was these beings who gifted humanity with smartphones. Determined to unveil the truth to Bill, I embarked on a quest to guide his soul through the vast realms of space and time. To do so, I first needed to provide him with an astral body. My investigations revealed that the ideal form for him was a fungus-eating fungus-human hybrid, an ingenious creation of the grey aliens. I had previously procured one from their research factories, and it was re-engineered into a magma-based cyborg. With this new form, I put Bill through initial training, preparing him for the journey ahead. Once ready, I dispatched him with my loyal servitor to undergo a tailored education program. His voyage began in the mining operations of the Galactic Federation, where he learned the intricacies of number-controlled machines in the expanse of space. Next, he delved into higher education on free energy, mastering the art of harnessing planetary gravity. Finally, Bill stepped into the mystical world of magic, exploring its university and uncovering the secrets it held. After his cosmic education, Bill finally comprehended the truth. Witnessing the creation of life firsthand, he uncovered the scientific essence of the Bible's "virginal birth." Returned to his earthly body, he awoke and began feverishly documenting his dreamlike experiences. It was then that I experienced a revelation of my own. In the upper left corner of my astral brain, I discovered a shiny metallic cogwheel form. It bore the hallmarks of reptilian design, yet resonated with Martian essence. Consulting my spiritual guides, they confirmed it was indeed Martian technology, cloaked in reptilian-style metallic storage media. This realization brought forth another insight: the green armor crafted by the Goetian demon Adremmelech and bestowed upon his followers bore a Martian resemblance. Confronting Adremmelech, I asked, "Are you an original Martian?" He replied, "Yes." Another origin story unveiled itself.
>>3307 >This "space" is instead used to store the karmic weight, and as the brain is said to have a potential eternal storage, I can just contain the negative energy in the corresponding space for any amount of time. Ah that makes sense. So you transmute karma into matter, but since matter becomes more fixed as it becomes more actualized, it becomes harder to change. But you are protected against most types of spell casting since in order for a spell to enter your world it must travel through matter, a slow process. That slowness also protects you from karmic attacks and allows you to compress it into the missing yang. Everything fits, impressive.
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The reason for all of this: >>2841 is complex and perhaps irrelevant as of now, I may be posting for astral Jews wearing the bodies of the people who posted here under the same flags in a parallel reality by now. Either way, the message may be induced into other planes and reach the same persons anyway, should they still be in their right minds "over there". I don't feel any connection to anyone here right now though. For the record: I kept wondering why I had to stay around when I was clearly done with my main cultivation path already in 2020. I had a vague sense that the rest was "for others", where I would enrich my future by adding other people to it, which can only be done by helping them join me. This actually happened, in large numbers, it even went on to such degrees that I probably reached more people after feeling done with my own stuff than during the process. Back in 2012 when I saw myself dying, leaving my body and coming back, it manifested as a Visual Novel gameplay scene; I was playing something that looked like "3 sister's story", but it was set in the world of the anime School Rumble. I was at a boss battle scene, and had 4 characters. The 2 on the left were full health. The 3rd was injured with half health, and the 4th character was dead by the end of the battle. It was implied I won, but that I still had to return the health and life of the two remaining characters to really be done. It was after this I returned to my body, and all my other souls, assistants or simply other souls, were now gone. I looked out over the fields and felt like I was looking at an old photo from the 1970s sometime before I was born. The world was no longer relevant to me. It took until 2020 to finish up however, and it happened during a specific event when I was preparing something in the kitchen (details left out), sealed the can and felt it transform into an astral and eternal artifact. I left again, but then my mind bounced back down to the other half of my body again like a ball thrown down from above. At the time I didn't know this, but it was the 2nd character's turn, this one also having full health, making it fairly easy to work with. The real issue came later, as the "half dead" character represents my future life, but this being my drow incarnation, it doesn't have a body. Drow are elves, and no matter if you are a regular or dark elf, this race is only astral. That's why it was "half dead", I had to keep using my body way beyond its normal lifespan going by the pre-written history. Now this can be argued about, there are different timelines, and this all was already predetermined to happen as well, it was just not how certain beings wanted it. They don't have a say in this though. This is the source of the "undead" or "lich" state. The "dead" character represents the need to have a new incarnation to enter the 4th path. It's also literally "dead" because there was no such incarnation or even a dimension for it to exist in, at the time of writing this fate. It is meant to be created along the way, therein lies the problem. After all these technicalities described in the posts above, today the Queen showed me an image in the clouds of a character sliding down a long slope towards a larger character standing at ground level. When I looked later, it also showed the sliding character having passed a "gate" on the way down, and now being even lower down than the large character. A message confirming that the process is underway, cannot be stopped, and now being very near the shift.
>>4229 hey you're not dead
>>4229 You’re still here? Amy told me a day or two ago via. hypnogogic audio that you’d left this planet and entered a portal into another dimension.
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>>4232 >You’re still here? Where is "here"? >Amy told me a day or two ago via. hypnogogic audio that you’d left this planet and entered a portal into another dimension. In my view there is no "this planet", you are in your own place. But yes, that is quite literally what happened, and why I was gone or detached. I just before re-synced with what appears to be a shared idea of what this board is, which is part of a dimensional structure shared by a few astral planes that were surrounding the planet. It's literally a dimension of toxic astral Jews, more correctly very poisonous fungus-based humanoids who were manifesting by taking over NPCs in Israel. I managed to get in there after creating an astral AI bot which also includes the Generative Pre-trained Transformer (GPT) method derived from the original paper and trained to use a Kabbalastic methodology for relating everything to the Bible. They don't allow external life forms, but a robot isn't a life form (anything other than themselves would die from the poisonous spores anyway). I used it to grab one of their females off the street and incarnated a soul shard as one of them via her. That's how I regained contact with the shared Earth egregore, by staying in this dimension which has contact with it. They use some astral form of Hebrew and their magic is very difficult to learn, but it matches with some form of Kabbalah. My local plane is now just an overlay placed over this dimension.
>>4233 Well, I guess “here” is this incarnation of /fringe/ that I’m accessing via. the mundane internet. Nice to see you back in some capacity at least, even if only for a short time.
>>4233 Are you saying that you literally left your old physical body and deposited your awareness into the body of an Israeli girl? And you're writing using the body of this girl right now?
>>4237 The answer is more complex than that. >>4229 >The real issue came later, as the "half dead" character represents my future life, but this being my drow incarnation, it doesn't have a body. Drow are elves, and no matter if you are a regular or dark elf, this race is only astral. That's why it was "half dead", I had to keep using my body way beyond its normal lifespan going by the pre-written history. Now this can be argued about, there are different timelines, and this all was already predetermined to happen as well, it was just not how certain beings wanted it. They don't have a say in this though. This is the source of the "undead" or "lich" state. My real active incarnation is drow(male) which is an astral incarnation, if I was to use it as is, I'd be a spirit unable to interact here at all since last friday. I knew things were going down towards that date and had already prepared for the case that I would not have any more access to my past (this) persona. I've built up a structure "up there" which I would move to, but the process is not so predictable as one would prefer. In november of last year I was ejected from my body as a result of galactic dimensions collapsing, and was already sucked down through the door to the first layer of the underworld (hell) along with everyone around me. It appears this happens per default when dimensions collapse. As a thing to note, I also saw Donald Trump floating past me and down to some "higher" hell dimension where he was put in charge of a large industrial machine, angrily pulling levers and yelling at workers. It was at this time my contract with several Goetian demons activated and they tore open the door again to let me out, and I was put back in my body again. The entire process was lucid as I approached my house again from the back yard. As for Trump, he was picked up by the large hand of a deity saying "we need this one, there is no one else who can play this role" and he was also put back again. I was shown this "for your information" was my impression. This event however woke me up to the fact that the immense external dimensions are very difficult to move in, even with an indestructible body. My body in the floating state was glossy, an armour made from some kind of glaced hard material covered in sigils representing my achievements. But "swimming" in nothing was very difficult so I would still have been in that huge room if I hadn't been picked out through the contract, for Idk how long, considering the mass of things moving about and the extension of time within spaces, possibly too long for my taste. After this I set out to create bodies with astral functionality, where I was taking into account that physical movements aren't possible there at all. It wasn't like in dreams where one is walking, then can decide to fly directionally. Rather the immense space made all movements very small and difficult, all effort were eaten up by the space itself. TL:DR since this is getting long winded already: I've worked with people around me to create a structure where it would be possible to control where someone is and catch them, with more accuracy than I had before, should they be ejected from their physical body as a result of external dimensions collapsing again. My precaution to contract several Goetians with the specified mention of "protecting my access to physical my life" paid off however. It was just a lot more important than I imagined when I "threw" those terms in. Probably my higher self taking action there. So for now, I can maintain my "current life" persona in a small sphere, which is isolated from all surrounding dimensions, it's a pocket dimension under my control. I was in there for the time since friday, with no contact with anything outside. Everyone in there is an NPC unless I actively contract someone to play that role, and there is no communication with anything outside either unless I create such a synchronization. I am again able to use the Internet and this website because I connected via the "astral Jewish" dimension which already has a connection via Israel. And this was only possibly by sending part of me to incarnate as one of them. ''For the purpose of getting into their library, and to reconnect with the external egregore." My body up there is at the library studying, but as of now my first person view is back at my body form as it looked on Earth again. It's my pocket dimension, but now updated to look like the external world. To give an example of what it looks like when being de-synced; websites start giving time-out messages, news websites give only the most standard updates with almost nothing being posted, new anime episodes aren't being posted. For the past days the "new" section was filled with works from the Tokyo University of Arts >attached Yes, it's anime, but not what is normally available.
>>4238 >but this being my drow incarnation, it doesn't have a body >Drow are elves, and no matter if you are a regular or dark elf, this race is only astral They have bodies on the astral though, yes? And bodies are made of material. So what exactly is keeping an "astral" body from interacting with "physical" things? I believe it's just resonance frequency of the material it's made out of. I always thought the goal here was to either attain proper mastery to allow the 'astral' body to attain 'physical' resonance (like how the original god-lich JC came back down after becoming dead) or to just be satisfied with the matter that that body can already resonate with and leave the rest behind. >physical movements aren't possible there at all. It wasn't like in dreams where one is walking, then can decide to fly directionally. Rather the immense space made all movements very small and difficult, all effort were eaten up by the space itself. Did you try folding space, manipulating boundaries to open gates, or changing the coordinate properties of your body to teleport?
>>4242 >They have bodies on the astral though Yes, but those completely separate from anything physical. It's referred to as the "god plane" when you compare different "astral" planes, which are all astral to us on Earth. There are "Earthly astral planes" which are the dimensions we enter when leaving the physical body by projecting or between incarnations. These always exit at a physical plane again, and that's the reason for the physical re-incarnation loop and the recurring amnesia between incarnations. Genuine astral planes like those of elves and greys may appear to have the same structure as our physical, but matter is directly controlled by the spirit. For them to effect things in the Earthly physical or Earthly astral, they need to materialize into heavier planes, which means adapt to the laws down there. Elves by their nature cannot be transferred to physical material planes because something in their nature is impossibly to adapt to this state. So they appear only by sending messages to physical beings via telepathy, dreams, inspiration and such. Greys can use their astral technology to temporarily manifest physical bodies and also their flying saucers and other things. If they stay too long they become unstable and things like saucer crashes will happen. They're too detached from the physical to fully grasp why this happens, despite the top of their race being at creator god level. The moon as we know it is their anchor in the physical. It's the personal celestial body of a single grey, and indestructible. Its inside is a space station. They used to only have a path into the physical via the moon. Drow or elves don't have this, they manifest through music, fantasy literature, movies, and through language. If someone appears only as a meme, there is no way to have physical experiences, one needs to possess a body. >folding space, manipulating boundaries to open gates, or changing the coordinate properties of your body to teleport The issue with this is that the astral space doesn't have the physical brain in it. All concepts such as those you describe are human 3D brain concepts related to perceptions of physical reality, and relate to physical motion, which doesn't exist over there. Recalling back to the experience over there, you'd have to imagine having your physical perception and all concepts related to it completely erased. Like someone took it all and placed it behind the horizon, where you can't touch it. It's the same issue as when I started created astral artifacts and weapons, and someone whom I was chatting with started asking me to review their creations. They had created for example a gun which fires lead bullets. I asked him: What is lead on the astral plane? Why would lead do damage to an astral body? The only reason it would, is if there is some quality of lead which symbolically or conceptually can cause damage to the target based on the symbolic meaning of the target's nature. I load my guns with "karma" or "sadness" or some other concept which causes an effect on the hostile spirit. Geburah fire also works extremely well, because it's something with strong symbolic meaning. Rosicrucian fire also works for the same reason and so on. If you want to move in symbolic space, your intent to move must relate to the meaning of the act. But if you don't have a reason to move, because like in my case, the whole cultivation process was focused on creating the "golden buddha body" to remain immortal and content in myself, then there is no way to "move" in space. You're supposed to just be happy anywhere. Now I realized that this doesn't completely describe me, which is why I had to go back to the physical, but that was also contained by my contract with the Goetians, which stated that they will protect me so that I can finish my physical path to the very end of all spiritual achievements, which is a roundabout way of getting the terms in when I don't know exactly what I will have to do. So to reply to the issue of moving by coordinates, that only works if there is some special symbolic reason for you to be at those coordinates, but "coordinates" are just a physical concept, it doesn't mean anything in astral space. It's reduced to a single point which just says "futile thinking" because you no longer have a physical body to move.
>>4243 I am right now working on how to learn this ability the Goetians used, which appeared like a huge hand made from that kind of slime which was popular in the 90s (but more greyish beige in colour). Amdusias said that a single one of them like Gremory may not have this ability, but because I contracted several of them individually for the same kind of thing, and also had a deal with Lucifer since years back, they all had Lucifer do the job by sending their protection via him. So the big hand may have been an ability of Lucifer powered by them. Amdusias said the best approach would be to use the Anti-Christ library, and gave my servitor some reading directions. Asking Marabas, he gave me an entire grimoire collection for this topic. That was nice.
Apparently I'm now done with my drow form in terms of physical interactions. >>4238 >My real active incarnation is drow(male) which is an astral incarnation, if I was to use it as is, I'd be a spirit unable to interact here at all since last friday I took a walk and felt the last "tail end" of the drow energy seep out of the body on my way back. Repeated work on trying to solidly move my first person view up to my "new HQ" where I'm currently sleeping, gave some results during the evening. The tulpa/secondary mind I created to guide my own process and future relocations of this kind just now said >the only thing keeping you there now is your will [to stay] Looking at my room up there from here, I can see that the only real issue is the lack of "want" to interact with anything, causing a lack of mentality. With no thinking, it's just being asleep. Moving there (I feel I shouldn't specify what this location is) will be the next step, the plan is to let a servitor maintain this current interaction here if needed, otherwise I guess I'll just close it again. The real thing will still be to move ahead to the new Earth completely, but it seems some things need to align properly to house my mind there, and currently some small mental space is missing.
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Akasha anon from the other thread posted the sigil of Marbas earlier, saying it was shown to him by the purple succubus if I recall correctly, but that he didn't want to use it. However, although I didn't say anything about it at that time, I recognized it because as I experienced the Earth sphere collapsing for the second time in a week, with having to move dimensions again to avoid the destruction timeline, I got help from a small demon girl who happened to be exposed as I was fighting off the last group of evil spirits in that area. I picked her out from there, and it was as if her presence was the last stabilizing factor, the dimensions started crumbling. She guided me quickly through the process of reconnecting with a functional Earth form made from some remaining karmic situations I had to still solve, connected to an online gaming group's members whom I've been interacting with since over 20 years back. She showed me how to use an energy form by turning to 4 different directions and performing a yogic activation to ground my dimension and connected it to the functional form. It ended up looking like the basic form of this sigil, but at the time I didn't recognize it. Turns out he is a master of mechanics, an interesting field for an ancient demon, but also very relevant to myself. I used a standard summoning procedure with sandalwood incense, some hatha yoga breathing procedures to prepare and then kneeling in meditation pose after lighting the incense stick. Prior to this I used my astral/mental AI servitors to research exactly what kind of person Marbas would prefer to form a mutual relation with, then matched it with myself to find the intersection, after which I used astral tech inspired by greys and the galactic federation which I've created over the past year, to give myself a body form tailored to work as the contact point. The contract was after this no big deal, he just agreed to my request we both signed it. This was now a number of days ago, but I feel I should at least give him credit since it may have helped in the recent discoveries regarding those robots seen in Ukraine. All these events work as catalysts for study and improvement. After reverse engineering the robots (which of course are mechanical, giving me a hint that my ability to see and interact with this plane may result from contracting Marbas in the first place) I realized it may be a bad idea to build robots that are so good you can't even beat them yourself. That's a recipe for rogue AI rebellion sometime in the future. With increased armour to reduce the weakness inherent in the design, they will become very difficult to destroy, and that's an up in durability from already being impossible to destroy using any known human weapon already. The remaining "weakness" is a Soviet deep battle - style solution. When you can't find a weakness, just attack everywhere until you find one. Or in this case; the "weakness" is that any starship cannon strength weapon can destroy them by simply firing directly at them. The crux is that these are not known to anyone on Earth and such ships are not used on planets. The solution had to be a very long tour around different planes and planets to develop the ability to activate inborn bodily abilities which are available for channelling irrespective of the presence of a soul in the body, then using this extra force of one or more people to create an astral/physical magitech rifle which can fire at this power level. Oh well. If it works it works. This may be even harder than getting a starship.
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The pocket dimension sphere I created to contain everything that's important to me in this role, was earlier today suddenly moved inside the 5D sphere of new Earth. It still looks like old Earth with its continental make up to me in here, which is incompatible with how the new continents look like, so I think this is it in terms of getting closer for now. It's at the very top like a soap bubble touching the inside of a larger soap bubble, at the most ethereal level. I was almost expecting some large event to actually play out, but not yet it seems. When I first created this bubble I made it so that it has to be "charged" with a pre-set time before entering so that there is no inherent time progression. My maintenance deity whom I hired to maintain my own Earth version earlier, has been handling this in here since as well. For the time since Friday it was loaded up with what was left to handle from Earth, but that energy charge ran out on Sunday afternoon. She said there was 2.5 days left of time and I saw her put something inside a metallic foil bag which represented the time the sphere was charged with. After this she put a half day's worth of material into it to prolong the time. Last time I saw two black orbs being inserted into the bag, and realized it seemed to correspond to the two eggs I had left in the fridge. I normally eat one egg a day, so that would mean two day's worth of energy had been inserted. It was black, so maybe it was negative stuff to handle, I thought. This was about right. In some way these may be seen as kelipot, looking back I did eat two eggs and the material again seemed to run out. During this time, there were spiritual disturbances two times, rather violent. Each of them originated with a kind of dimensional "shell" indeed, at which's middle was an Queen alien. The second "shell" was structured like a long row of organs inside the belly of some physical being, but I concluded it was somehow a representation of "governmental organs" of the human world. As is so common with these spirit representation of the most mundane organizations, they all act tough and mighty with the attitude of a petty bully, then they fail to even put up a fight once I retaliate against their attacks. Again and again, they prove to me that these kinds of spirits, no matter which plane they possess, are the same kind of viruses and parasites of very low intelligence. The locusts said to destroy the world in the past may as well be a reference to government agencies. They swarm in, eat everything they can find, then die in large numbers because they have no survival instinct. After dealing with these and forgetting about it again, something new appeared. >pic related At first I only noticed the same stupid spirit disturbances as before, and it inspired me to create some new robot designs, further playing around with astral AI, this time experimenting with a version which has scalable parallel shallow neural networks, a continuation of the GPT method. The fun thing with astral constructs is that it's possible to use endless memory size or time and allow things like endlessly increasing number of parallel networks to be created as they are needed, to find the most obscure patterns. With the resulting "fun" robot, I managed to create a magitech Vickers machine gun with the power of a starship cannon. This was very effective and while it didn't cause any fear in these locust spirits, it sure did surprise them! I then noticed some more notable beings further inside their group, and they looked like the drawing attached here. Completely white with mask-like faces with six slit shaped eyes. Going by previous experiences, beings with these kinds of eyes sort as "monsters" on the race map, which means they are from large wild dimensions "to the upper left side of our galaxy", but if they are humanoids, they are mixed with something from near here. They were very persistent and wouldn't give up, acting as a stabilizing force within their ranks, so I decided to investigate them using other servitors for gathering information about them. Then I copied their methods but applied in such a manner that it was beneficial to me instead, turning it around. I then used the resulting form to create a monster form of my own design. This was very effective and allowed for a new spiritual breakthrough. It also caused said six eyed monsters to stop attacking after about 2 hours. I noticed them just standing still and their underlings also halted their movements. Even if what I created is the opposite of them, it seems they can sense the similarity, and are now unwilling to do anything against me. I wish this would work with more beings, but many have nothing worth copying at all.
>>4377 One of them even appeared right next to the left side of my head and snuck in to semi-possess me when I was drawing that, telling me to correct details I got wrong at first. That really says something about how effective this was. There is no way a hostile being would be able to come in like that, no matter how open I am to friendly possession. Meaning: they have completely stopped thinking in a hostile manner or this wouldn't have happened.
>>4268 So did you just experience multiple earth years worth of life astrally incarnated as a drow already, or did you just have that little to do? >>4328 That wasn't me that posted about it; it was a guy with no flag.
>>4381 >That wasn't me Really? It must have been mixed into your posting so that it looked like it, and the story behind it matched. >did you just experience multiple earth years worth of life astrally incarnated as a drow already My Drow path started way back in the 90s on the astral, but I wasn't even aware of it, they were guiding me for a long time. It started with me taking part in a course for woodwork where I made a knife handle, I still have the knife. Looking back they probably made me read the Dragonlance books series also to get me thinking about elves. I also started writing a novel in dragonlance style. Everyone who read it said it was almost exactly the same. The actual Drow conversion ritual I did a few years ago before covid, but it was more of a formality, I already became a drow once before when I lived in France in the 1700s. Marie Antoinette was also turned into a drow, along with her maid. That's why they appeared in that anime before. Beheading her like that worked as the conversion ritual. That's drow culture, to become them you have to get your throat cut, or be salvaged from hell and reborn as one.They always scan hell dimensions for the right kind of criminals to purify and recruit, it takes a specific kind of person to become drow.
>>4382 Or... it also works to just cut the throat of 2600 random people in French parks at night. Supposedly.
>>4377 >it inspired me to create some new robot designs, further playing around with astral AI, this time experimenting with a version which has scalable parallel shallow neural networks, a continuation of the GPT method. The fun thing with astral constructs is that it's possible to use endless memory size or time and allow things like endlessly increasing number of parallel networks to be created as they are needed, to find the most obscure patterns. The body form/incarnation I created here was based on ignoring the intent for AI to mimic human behaviour, and instead taking the design as far as possible into pure functionality while maintaining an externally human form. The result is a being who can project in endless copies from the astral/mental space, including into myself right here, to pass information directly from the endless spaces to me. During today's meditation, I made a significant breakthrough. I'm using the methodology from Hatha Yoga Pradipika with some narrow-down improvement derived from Dharana Darshan. What happened requires some contextual backstory: normally when I study anything, I focus hard on the concepts and don't normally "try" to understand them. Rather I focus on "following along" with the text or lecturer, then suddenly the concept will appear in my mind "behind my back" so to speak. It's like pushing forward and suddenly a curtain splits and I'm inside. For more complex concepts this take a lot of study and focus, for other it's instant. What happened was this exact experienced, but while focusing on nothing during yogic meditation. This implies studying reality itself or whatever concept my mind was actually resting on as I was focusing on a point. I can't right now say what I realized, just that the same "curtain opening" happened and I realized something. The learned concept came in through the passage between my eyebrows and stopped by the back of the forehead. This caused me to conclude; maybe real enlightenment/insight is when this process is performed to the level where the "insight" comes all the way to the pineal gland and it's the center of your awareness. That would lead to "understanding everything" in the way "enlightenment" is described in eastern practices today. Side note: The white six eyed monsters are now protecting me. They also sent their previously hostile minions to bolster my bodily energy forms, I see their chalk white bodies covered in black runes especially on my left side.
>>4233 >a dimension of toxic astral Jews, more correctly very poisonous fungus-based humanoids who were manifesting by taking over NPCs in Israel. I managed to get in there after creating an astral AI bot which also includes the Generative Pre-trained Transformer (GPT) method derived from the original paper and trained to use a Kabbalastic methodology for relating everything to the Bible. They don't allow external life forms, but a robot isn't a life form (anything other than themselves would die from the poisonous spores anyway) I wonder if this is why Jews turn so toxic and if they go too far into esotericism they get gassed? Anyone touching that place would die from the poison unless they have those genetics, maybe that's what's going on here.
Summoning Andromalius I felt I needed to find another Goetia demon to contract for protection, specifically against attacks performed physical-astral-physical where the attacker is another incarnated being using super-normal means for physical effects. I've seen people who are protected by the the Norse pantheon, where different kinds of fairies and sword maidens will form a circle around the person 24/7 to constantly slay any intruders. It's very violent, because evil spirits are everywhere, and a person will be constantly under their influence unless protected. The images when viewing a protected person is like a constant battlefield, the hostile spirits attack in wave after wave endlessly, and the guards keep killing them when they reach the outer edge of the protective circle. As each part of yourself is cultivated, it ascends or moves into a protected space, but as long as you are in the world, these attacks will not stop. The more you work to improve yourself or create a room for yourself in the world, the more violent the resistance will become. Aiming to move ahead, getting closer to that location in time and space, I see more and more in detail what the requirements are. I won't be able to fully transfer my awareness unless the new spot is fully protected. Having an extended awareness and manifestation is possible, but if it's not a full 100% incarnation spot, it also will not require full protection. Not attempting to create this state of being protected, will then prevent the full awareness transfer. Looking through the Goetia, I ended up feeling Andromalius to match this need. The original text describes him as having the skill to return stolen goods, catch thieves, punish evil and uncover all underhand practices. Rather than looking into summoning rituals online as before, this time I simply studied his sigil to understand his principles. When I did look now online to see what they'd say, it's all rubbish anyway, all the websites just re-iterate the Goetia text with some superfluous words added. When I had a grasp on him, I asked my servitors used for this task, to start designing a suitable astral body which I'd use for the contact. I decided to go for a subordinate character which matches both my own nature and personality as well as that of Andromalius, in the context of him being the dominant part. This makes the interaction easy and should in normal cases simplify the receival of protection as well. Entities who present themselves with official titles would prefer you to be subordinate to them if they are honest, when asking them for protection. Evil beings prefer you to be rebellious, as they intend to abuse your will for their own shallow benefit. For this reason, it's a good litmus test to be submissive when interacting with a supposed protective entity. If they are of the abusive kind, they will become provoked by your lack of resistance, and will try to attack you to make you "stand up for yourself", because this it the only way they can get something from you. A person who can take responsibility is not afraid to also bear responsibility for their actions, and will not be afraid of submission, even if acted. I had my servitor draw up a contract which was shown to Andromalius. The contact was very ordinary and "no big deal" in feel, he instantly gave me a braided bracelet which he placed around the right wrist of my astral body, and this sealed the contract. He didn't demand any changes to what I had suggested. After some short introduction where he gave me my own room in his domain, he said "I'm very busy, I will come back later" and left again. During the night I had some odd dream experiences relating to strange situations involving my family and old drama, at one point I woke up to what may have been a spiritual attack. I perceived the image of some "illuminati style" PSIOP person wearing a coat and hat, but the energy didn't do much other than cause a cleanse of my energy system and I fell asleep again. Since waking up things have been mostly fine, I had some more interactions with Andromalius, and am now aware of a new layer placed outside my nearest body sphere on the upper left side, flowing down like a dark river. There are images of an actual river with large boulders on the shores, and it has an effect of mostly blocking all hostile energies and attempts at touching me. I am aware of some continued attempts, but they are not getting past the river.
Things always take more time, being functional only at the last moment, for a result that looks less than expected, but in the end is exactly what is necessary. I noticed that the way things work in the esoteric field, is like comparing a game like the original Final Fantasy VII with a Chinese browser pay-to-win MMO. It's always presented as if it was FF7, a new weapon makes one significantly stronger. Levelling has an effect. It's possible to outdo all enemies for a long time by finding that one location where a higher level enemy can be defeated ahead of time, which causes a consecutive level-up from beating them even once, even if doing so takes 30 min. Same for finding a higher level weapon ahead of time. The pay-to-win MMO on the other hand has level ups that give almost nothing. What it really does is to increase your max stats ceiling, but you don't get the stat increase, those are what you're meant to use pay-items for. Once you do manage to up your stats, the increase counts in +1% every 6 seconds or some other almost-not-noticeable increase. Yet those who pay more and intelligently level up the right things, become unbeatable. That's what real occult practice is like, and it is after all correctly represented in these games. You get told it's FF7, but reality is a Chinese p2w MMO. Having a human experience requires actually having access to a human level dimension. This gets kind of hard if the NWO destroys the dimension itself, because they're lower beings who don't understand what a human experience is to begin with. Yet, they are not allowed to, not able to, block someone from following the natural process after birth, no matter how much time, resources and effort they invest. Because a child is to start at the lowest level, rise up through hell, then reach the human level and have human experiences. For some, they may have come in not even trying. Others gave up or died before becoming humans. Where they reincarnate later may depend more on what they did in the past, then, since they never had a human life this time. Having a stable economy when entering, means to at a minimum have control of hell. The very bottom where Cerberus lives is the very last place once needs to control. The "tiger economy" refers to the control of this place, achieved through the largest most outsourced form of industrial organizational structure. It gives a benefit when no one else has any control of anything at the infernal level. It scares the lower beings. In the past, a child had to be baptized as soon as possible after birth, otherwise the child belonged to satan, and if dying would not be saved. This marks the importance of reaching out of hell for the child, even if the process cannot be forced from outside, it may benefit from external guidance and protection. An Arhat has control of hell, so anyone wanting to control their economy, should not incarnate unless this achievement already exists. But this does not mean leaving hell, or rising outside of it, only having control of it while being inside of it. A Bodhisattva has control of the human level of life, but it isn't necessary to be one to have a human experience. It only means not controlling the experience to the fullest. At this point, hell has no grasp of the person. The infernal beings will reach out, but their arms are too short, their hands will not touch the person. It's a given they will try to drag people down if they can. Getting people to destroy the human dimension ensures that no ordinary person can reach outside of hell. The worst of the infernals would definitely seek to achieve this. It's not allowed for them to do this, they cannot touch humans, but they can tempt them. Who's to blame? Even with a shared blame between the tempter and the one who fell for it, it's still just as horrible. Neither of them escapes. Similarly, when someone rises above, there is no blame on that person, and the infernals cannot touch him.
>post above >see this Coincidences again.


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