>>1073156 >>1073160 According to the support page, it's a driver issue. Maybe some compatibility layer could be made to replace it. Now that RTX is the current talking point for NVIDIA, HairWorks and FleX is conveniently forgotten by most gamers. OptiX is still supported because it involves ray tracing. https://archive.is/lmRAN

Whatever happened to that thread from a month or so back that had a list of a bunch of unique software and OSes to check out? I've been distro-hopping a lot recently and I quite enjoyed that one, having been trying to find an operating system that fits my Homestuck sensibilities forever. I tried fucking with 11, 10, and especially 7, including a weird live server setup I found from some Russian guy, Linux Mint and Void Linux, but nothing has really stuck.

>>1073162 >Whatever happened to that thread from a month or so back that had a list of a bunch of unique software and OSes to check out? It was a thread? Are you sure it wasn't >>1072797

>>1073148 How is >>1073084 bait? >But it won't pop, anon. Neither will crypto. Global government wants both of these things, and the entirety of the economy is purposely written into law to support them. If anything happens to "threaten" them (nothing can, because nothing happens outside of government purview), those industries would simply receive a bail-out. He has arguments, do you or are you just retarded?

>>1073155 THE MORE YOU BUY, THE REST GOES BYE

>>1073161 >Now that RTX is the current talking point for NVIDIA, HairWorks and FleX is conveniently forgotten by most gamers. OptiX is still supported because it involves ray tracing. I don't know even one person who bought a game for hair physics or ray tracing.

>>1073168 There are entire games being released that have ray tracing as a hardware requirement now. And people strive to play things like Cyberpunk with ray tracing on all the time. It's clearly a desirable technology and eventually going to be the future of game lighting. It's just a feature that isn't feasible for anyone but those that can afford $3000 halo products.

>>1073171 I'm just waiting for the GPU than can have cyberbloat 2077 run at a locked 60 with psycho gay tracing at 4gay

>>1073182 While I'm more then happy to shit on team green, this seems flaky.

>>1073231 He throws 7 grenades in the first clip, and 3 in the second. It could be the case that the 5080 is still way worse, but we'll never know because the two clips aren't even remotely comparable, and the second doesn't even show the FPS counter. Such a retarded fucking video because it takes what might be a slam dunk against nvidia and just makes people talk about how stupid the guy who made the video is.

>>1073233 It's fucking retarded.

>>1073231 >>1073233 It's because the 50-series dropped physx support.

>>1073182 >>1073231 >>1073233 >>1073240 <all this shitty fluffing without one post calling out the soundless cuckchan webm Why don't you rapefugees make proper use of the site and post the original video? I encoded this on my phone, I'm literally phoneposting right now and yet my phonepost is beating you guys out on quality. You can see one explosion by itself cripples the framerate in the full video which cannot be reposted under cuckchan limits. Fuck PPH if this is what passes for discussion. what horrifies me is that I found out Discuck of all websites was moving to AV1, and the utter stupidity in which its dumbass userbase wasted its potential, this site as tattered as it is has to stay ahead

>>1073252 frames don't make sound and you bloated the filesize :^)

>>1073155 >>1073160 >>1073161 >>1073247 So much for modern computers being able to play "decades" wotrh of vidya.

>>1073254 Sure man, whatever helps you feel better.

>>1073160 >Quite the timing after I just posted my WIP infograph yesterday saying they would later become unusable. This is software played on a modern system though. A gaming PC from 2012 could play that shit fine. >>1073157 Nigger going to sub-20 FPS is not normal, we don't need an autistic benchmark to see it fucking sucks. >>1073233 Can you scroll up you retarded gorilla nigger >>1073155 "W-we need real comparable benchmarks" who gives a fuck, go suck Richard Leadbetter's cock or something. A 2012 game being under 20 fps is not normal. These games ran perfectly on a GTX 670. In normal gameplay on Borderlands 2 there is PhysX shit all over the place because they wanted to milk that gimmick as much as possible. Water, rubble, poison, and slag flings PhysX shit all over the place. It caused a stir because AMD users couldn't play the game beyond 10FPS with that setting on back then. As it stands, RTX 5000 series makes playing those certain games from that era with the most graphical fidelity a mess. So fuck NVIDIA.

>>1073155 Holy shit, it runs worse than even the most taxing emulators. NVIDIA implemented Starfield technolojeet

>>1073233 My brother in christ, do you seriously not feel the framerate tank? Even if the video was 30fps, you'd still see the latency.

>>1073264 >>1073271 He was pointing out that the comparison left shills an excuse, you dunkasses. Obviously the game runs like dogshit for the stated reasons that everyone is discussing but the fact that the test wasn't 1:1 and that the capture was slightly different is enough to give ammo to team green nuthuggers.

>>1073252 >>1073182 Time to wait for the community to fix this shit With any luck it might also mean AMD GPUs get to also run that stuff well instead of being stuck on 1 CPU core.

https://archive.is/2YUIk NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Spotted with Missing ROPs, Performance Loss Confirmed >TechPowerUp has discovered that there are NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 graphics cards in retail circulation that come with too few render units, which lowers performance. Zotac's GeForce RTX 5090 Solid comes with fewer ROPs than it should—168 are enabled, instead of the 176 that are part of the RTX 5090 specifications. >Two days ago, one of our readers who goes by "Wuxi Gamer," posted this thread on the TechPowerUp Forums, reporting that his retail Zotac RTX 5090 Solid was showing fewer ROPs in GPU-Z than the RTX 5090 should have. Lo and behold—our sample is missing ROPs, too! GPU-Z is able to read and report these units counts, in this case through NVIDIA's NVAPI driver interface. The 8 missing ROPs constitute a 4.54% loss in the GPU's raster hardware capability >In the first test, "Elden Ring" at 4K UHD with maxed out settings and native resolution (no DLSS), you can see how the Zotac RTX 5090 Solid falls behind every other RTX 5090 we tested, including the NVIDIA Founders Edition, a de facto reference-design that establishes a performance baseline for the RTX 5090. The Zotac card is 5.6% slower than the FE, and 8.4% slower than the ASUS ROG Astral RTX 5090 OC, the fastest custom design card for this test. Officially, the Solid is clocked at 2407 MHz rated boost frequency, which matches the Founders Edition clocks—it shouldn't be significantly slower in real-life. The interesting thing is that the loss of performance is not visible when monitoring the clock frequencies, because they are as high as expected—there's just fewer units available to take care of the rendering workload. >Update 14:22 UTC: Apparently the issue isn't specific to Zotac, HXL posted a screenshot of an MSI RTX 5090D, the China-specific variant of the RTX 5090 with nerfed compute performance, but which is supposed to have 176 ROPs. Much like the Zotac RTX 5090 Solid, it has 8 missing ROPs. Fake frames, fake prices, fake specifications.

>>1073252 >why don't you talk about irrelevant meta shitflinging instead of video games guys??? Kill yourself retard. >>1073264 >>1073271 Obviously I can see that physx is crippling the card you retarded niggers. I'm pointing out that comparing it to an earlier generation card is completely fucking pointless if you're going to throw half the grenades and not even include the fucking FPS counter. Either benchmark properly or don't benchmark at all.

>>1073315 >Either benchmark properly or don't benchmark at all. Why not use these tools: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_with_built-in_benchmarks

>>1073317 It's perfectly fine to benchmark a specific instance of a game manually. You just need to actually do the same thing. There is no point in including the comparison shot otherwise.

>>1073315 >Obviously I can see that physx is crippling the card you retarded niggers It's not crippling the card, it's running on the CPU because the card doesn't have support for it.

I wonder if there's a board contest for the most encodes of the same video.

>>1073309 This really is the train wreck that keeps on giving. >>1073155 (checked) Nvidia really is trying to pull everything they can to piss people off.

>>1073323 That 9800X3D is clearly a shitty CPU then :^)

>>1073309 I went down a rabbithole of bad journalism trying to find the difference between 5090 & 5090D since I wondered if Zotac was somehow getting the shitty Chinese version. What I found said: >5090 has 24,576 CUDA cores >5090D has 21,760 CUDA cores This is apparently FALSE because official specs listed on nvidia's own website claim the regular 5090 has 21,760 CUDA cores, not 24,576. So now I don't know what the actual fucking difference is except maybe a lower power budget. Another article claimed there is no difference. A lot of these faggots just copy-paste each other so if something is wrong it's wrong everywhere & if something is missing information it's missing that same information everywhere.

>>1073182 >>1073247 >the 50-series dropped physx support Makes no sense. Been a part of their driver package for decades. It's not like they have to maintain something that does the same thing across the same old existing games right? I had to look this shit up. https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5615 >32-bit CUDA applications cannot be developed or debugged using CUDA 12.0 or later toolkit for any target architecture. Use the CUDA Toolkit from earlier releases for 32-bit compilation. So what, because you can't dev 32-bit Physx on the newer CUDA toolkit they just removed supporting it on 50 series altogether even with an existing slew of games still using it? >CUDA Driver will continue to support running 32-bit application binaries on GeForce RTX 40 (Ada), GeForce RTX 30 series (Ampere), GeForce RTX 20/GTX 16 series (Turing), GeForce GTX 10 series (Pascal) and GeForce GTX 9 series (Maxwell) GPUs. So it works on 40-series & has simply been arbitrarily removed on 50-series? How'd they have it supported so long & suddenly it gets axed when the hardware could easily still run it? All these Nvidia Physx games will now have the "AMD experience" on 50-series, so the games runs, but you can't use Physx as it runs on the CPU which doesn't run it well enough & tanks performance. For a company marketing around their exclusive features this doesn't instill much confidence that all this other shit they're peddling is going to keep functioning. Considering how many games use it this is some stupid shit. Maybe if someone with a big enough audience bitches about it they can change things, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Best case scenario would be an open source workaround so everyone, including AMD, can use Physx, but that'll never happen.

>>1073417 >Considering how many games use it this is some stupid shit. Maybe if someone with a big enough audience bitches about it they can change things, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Best case scenario would be an open source workaround so everyone, including AMD, can use Physx, but that'll never happen. How about you just stop buying new cards? Unless you're using them for crypto-mining or AI generation, you're wasting your money.

>>1073264 >we don't need an autistic benchmark to see it fucking sucks. Nigger I'm no fan of Jensen and co, but that comparison does a very poor job. Not showing the FPS or etc? There are proper ways to give Jensen his rope but this isn't it.

>>1073417 I imagine it's more about removing it from the hardware real estate rather than firmware/driver.

>>1073315 >Kill yourself retard Not an argument nor has it ever won any.