>>627 I literally wanted to make a thread for guides explaining what they are and are not how to discern them and you just acted on that energy instead of using the question thread. AS IT WAS INSTRUCTED >What are those, why use this vague word? Yeah why should I call you Anon instead of Anonymous No. 627 of the whydidyoumakeathreadinsteadofusingthequestionthread of 8chanmoe fringe. >It seems to imply said speaker does not know who is guiding them HOPE YOU ARE REALIZING WE ARE ON AN ANONYMOUS BOARD. And I do not know WHO IS SPEAKING ON THE OTHERSIDE. >Sounds risky as fuck tbh Yes it is because currently I might talk to a glownigger or to a retarded possessed fuck who just made a thread instead of using the question thread. >why is this a thing in the wizard community Why do wizards talk to spiritual beings. Why did Merlin spend time in the forest talking to spirits instead of hanging out in a brothel. >I've seen this shit on Discord and other places as well. O rly. Like through the entire history of humanity? Darn. Truly an observing mind. >If you are trusting someone enough to let them guide you, why not call them by name? Do you know the power of names Anonymous No. 627? Do you know if someone knows the name of the entity others can summon it too? Do you know why "true name" is important in many places? Can't understand? Please post your personal information on every board and your credit card information too and approve every transaction request if you are unable to understand. Also your home information too and list every valuable you have in your home. >I've never had guides Sure thing bud. Some people never had parents. That doesn't mean they don't exist. They just didn't meet them.

>>630 Now I will take a break and figure out a way to explain to the densest motherfucker what is and isn't a guide how to discern tricksters and parasites and not making that thread today because now we have thread for guide related inane questions. >Want to make a thread >Summon up the energies >Feel how they interact with the general energies of the lurkers >Try to make a thread after carefully selecting the images >sUdDeNLy someone acts on it with their inane retardation I knew this would happen and I have to slowly consider every word or people misunderstand everything and I get >hurr durr I'm a retard >hurr durr I'm an angry griefer or even worse >hurr my goddess a best everyone worship her pls or the >how do I suman a suckerbus am hornby and I ned magec animay gf pls gibbu one purizu posts instead of anything constructive. And now my fears got confirmed. The worst one when someone is absolutely retarded summons something outside his capabilities then it takes weeks to fix him. Oh and I forgot the classic. The retarded puritan who does not know shit >YOU ARE WORKING WITH THEM DAEMONS AND YOU WILL GO TO TEH HALL FOR DOING HTAT MY COUSIN ONCE SMOKETH DA SHROMS AND HE SEN A NAKID GIRL AND NOW HE'S DAMNED OMG YOU FOLKS HAV NO IDA WHER THIS LEADS MAY JASEUS SAV U FROM UR TARNATION This is why I didn't make threads so far. I know the energies lurking here. These things always happen. This thread shall become the containment thread for guide related fears and retardation.

I could have said >Patience REEEEEttle one the thread is in the making all confusion will be dispelled soon but I went and ranted like a retard. Guess I too have need for growth. At least my emotional maturity is on par with the average fringe poster.

(You)

>>635 No u I literally explained many things about guides. I like guides and want to talk about them. I do not like retards that mess up the flow of things. You are the one that entered a board with themes he dislikes.

>>627 Guides are sometimes perceived as personalities; sometimes much more vaguely. You do have guides, even if it's perceived by you as intuition. It's not risky. You know them by their, deeds after all. Don't do anything you don't want to do. Besides, part of consciously getting in touch with this guidance is getting in touch with your higher self who knows right from wrong (in both senses). It should NEVER be a matter of trust. It's a matter of knowing. Else that's a demon.

>>627 Not sure if you are still here but yesterday while posting I managed to accidentally make a connection to some realm and I was attacked by weird beings. One of them was like a bear sized human-pig faced thing It was not like manbearpig from southpark it was something different some dark shadow grabbed my heart through the screen and as I grabbed his hand it broke off and as it made a teary face then it went away but his hand remained in my hands and the palm contained an interesting chakra formation then a white jellyfish like thing appeared and as I used one of my purge technique on it a blue crystal remained only and as I poured high energies through it also vanished. The whole thing happened because I was way too mad that the flow of energies changed and I have to completely rethink my way of explaining what is and isn't a guide and how the illusory nature of the self works. >>639 This posts sums it up well but only those understand it that know these things by default and not people who are unfamiliar to these things. Made me realize I have to rethink everything and that I am still incapable of proper effort posting. I have a habit that during work hours I channel issues that bother me so the extra frustration and irritation can be used as a fuel to stay awake during work hours. This habit had to go but I never managed to be able to let go and as I let the anger purposely overtake me today I realized some things. I missed this part of fringe too. This incessant rage of the wizards arguing about things. I realized I enjoy this part of the anger. It is entertaining. At least a little. Overall it's still frustrating and not fit for real workings. Thus I was able to let go parts of it. My nostalgia and desire to revive fringe is also an attachment that just slows down the rejuvenation of fringe. Without these attachments the energies can flow more freely. I have to accept it sometimes. But enough about me. After calming down I realized I established a psychic link and was weird how you never managed to see anything resembling as a guide. They always appear through dreams meditations or through other magical introspection or journeys. I managed to get a glimpse. It was a dark foggy haze and as I arrived I got an impression of a haughty bitch who was extremely full of herself. I knew intuitively what to do because I too had an anima force like this. There is a pressure point on the foot that needs to be crushed so the energies can flow. After I did that she signaled with a paper fan that I should stop because it is unneeded to go further. I asked for a name because it seems you like names so much. She said she is Esmeralda. Do whatever with this information. Might not even mean anything or might lead to a breakthrough I don't know. After flushing out my energy body I attained an another type of clarity and realized I should have noticed this. >>637 Also I don't have a "guiding" fetish. I am just trying to reinvigorate fringe and help where I can. I am still unable to properly express myself through wisdom. Real guidance is something more serious that requires decades of experience. True wisdom is a mix of intuition and experience. It is something you are born with then refine it through further attainment. I know you are ironic and sarcastic as hell with that pic and I shouldn't have taken seriously at all but I say it anyways if we have this thread already.

>>642 That's funny. I'm >>639 and last night sometime after your post, I had a weird, angry pain in the inner part of my right foot. Also, I'm very full of myself.

>>644 Yeah I didn't watch that disney cartoon and the only reason I know who she is because I googled Esmeralda to know if the name has any meaning at all. (Esmeralda was an icecream shop or similar in my youth and it has no bigger meaning for me) I don't know if the cartoon represents the Animus archetypal forces competing and evolving with the interaction with the Anima or what that tale represents at all. >>651 >I had a weird, angry pain ... Yeah that kinda resembles the energies I had around while doing that energetic operation. >in the inner part of my right foot Yes it's literally there >Also, I'm very full of myself. Welp >>627 Guess everyone gets a guide but you. Also this is why I try to not do magic without the assistance of my guides because my "magic" that I developed in my early psychic years is as accurate as carpet bombing and my signature tracking ability is still under development. My face memory is already dogshit in the material plane no wonder the metaphysical plane also has hiccups. Whatever that point just unlocks your "foot" in a way the energies of the earth travel into the root and sacral chakra faster and if you have energetic overloads you ground faster. And supposedly increases the circulation in the legs. >had a weird, angry pain Also I'm sorrymasen >>637 AND THIS IS KIDS THE LESSON WHY YOU ALWAYS GUIDE PEOPLE WHEN THEY PROPERLY ASK YOU FOR THAT AND NOT JUST GET SHIT ASS MAD AND RANDOMLY DO IT BECAUSE THAT IS NOT TRUE COMPASSION BUT WIZARD POWER ABUSE >That's funny Supposedly it releases a bunch of pent up energies too that might cause problems with your inner spirit. But I am still exploring these meridians

>>665 Just to be clear. I’m the foot pain guy, but not OP. It seems you were aiming for him and got me somehow? Also, Princess Esmeralda fits me in a weird way as a way of your subconscious (or a spirit?) conveying to you my persona without you knowing anything about me, even though I’m a guy. Interesting.

>>681 >It seems you were aiming for him and got me somehow? Nah. I was conjuring a bunch of energies up so I could make a detailed thread about guides (while letting some of my guides guide my hand while writing it) and such with the perfect images that encapsulates the feeling I was going for then as I almost started to write the thread he just made this thread and all my energies went into an abhorrent ragefit and that invited other entities then I noticed a sudden psychic link and I thought it's the OP. Then it turns out it was an another poster that knows what guides are quite well who might have been even better writing the thread than me. So it seems it was you. The problem was ofc that I noticed the psychic link the next day which was after your post. >Also, Princess Esmeralda fits me in a weird way as a way of your subconscious (or a spirit?) conveying to you my persona without you knowing anything about me, even though I’m a guy. Interesting. For me it was a long black haired woman in a black military uniform and a military whip with a large library behind her back. She was my "memory search" anima and the "drill sergeant" of my minor animus forces. She tried her best to fulfill the wishes of the force commander. I can be quite demanding sometimes.

Can someone psychic tell me if I have guides and if so what they look like?

>>1355 Looks like a big white being with a head of a bat? And it has a purplish hue around him? I am not sure if I can call that a guide but it's around you and it's doing something. Also a female in the distance. Sorry can't give anything more substantial. The bat is looking at me confused why I am there while the female has a slight smirk. None of them want me to convey you messages with my current post so I am not sure what else I should say.

>>1358 Thank you so much for the serious reply! Sucks that they don't want you to tell me anything. Are you at least allowed to tell me whether or not they are for me or against me? sounds like the female does not like me based off your description of her. Either way I just wanted to thank you again.

>>1359 >Are you at least allowed to tell me whether or not they are for me or against me? The bat is your protective entity while the female is waiting for you to notice her first. She told me I shouldn't tell you more or I might hinder your own awakening. >sounds like the female does not like me based off your description of her I think she just found it funny that I managed to notice her. Sorry I am not allowed to describe her. It would ruin your journey. Try to remember your dreams where you encountered females and what they told you. At least I am allowed to tell you this basic advice because this "doesn't count as peering into your Fate". She is urging me to not say more. Deepen your connection with your guides first.

>>1360 I have started a dream journal. Given enough time and effort, will that be enough to meet her? Will the ability to lucid dream enable me to summon her for a chat? How does one deepen their connection with their guides? Is there an archived /fringe/ thread about lucid dreaming and dream journals? It seems that no one ever says anything in my dreams, it is all just actions, at least as far as I can remember (which isn't much, yet).

Okay I dreamed of a female talking to me but I can't for the life of me remember what she said.

>>1381 >I have started a dream journal That's a good start. Personally I hate journaling because I am developing and experimenting with several memory recall and memory palace skills and I rarely take notes because I know how I can ask my brain to recall things and I don't want to rely on the physical too much if I can. But it can definitely improve your ability to remember the dreams so do it as much as you can because we were hardwired in school that "important things need to be written down" so you have to "remind" your mind that "dreams are important" because the mundane programming makes you forget your dreams and aspirations as much as possible and you have to start to "retain yourself" somehow. Even the smallest step counts when you start walking into the right direction. >Given enough time and effort, will that be enough to meet her? She is literally "there" you just need to learn to "open up to her". >Will the ability to lucid dream enable me to summon her for a chat? How Yes but that requires extra steps and I recommend you to sit down and meditate empty you head as much as possible then empty it further then "call her into your mind" and try to "hear her voice". First it will probably sound like it's your "own thoughts" or gibberish or that "you are making it up" but as your mind slowly opens up you will be able to make things out. I recommend meditation because as your awareness increases lucid dreams become natural and not as a "skill" you have to "develop". Remember when you developed the skill [walking] and [running]? You don't because it was natural. The education system made us "think" that we need to "suffer" or grind for results. Truth is you just need to find the right direction and walk towards it. Then the guidance will tell you the other steps. Don't force it don't have expectations just simply "let it happen" >>1394 We are progressing it seems. I don't think I need to say more

>>1405 I had a dream where a woman talked to me, and I remember what she said this time. She said “I’ll be sending you an e-mail shortly.” Was that her? Was ”email” my subconscious’s way of saying that she will be getting in contact with me soon, through telepathy, or was it literal?

>>1987 It could be anything. Stay tuned I guess.

>>1988 Is she entirely non-physical or is she a person on the physical plane that I may or may not know that sometimes astrally projects to me?

>>1990 She tells me to not answer that sorry.

>>1991 Alright then. I guess to change the subject, what are your guides like?

>>1992 Depends on the situation and the phase I am trying to overcome or understand on my own journey. Some of them are animals some are humans some are manifestations of different Gods. Sometimes they are just energies taking a form so I can "meet a place" that they represent. I realized quite long ago that they don't need to keep a specific form forever. Especially after I had an awakening overload and burned all entities around me... I thought they were gone forever. Some of them are parts of the subconscious while some of them are manifestations of the universe itself. When I visit different realms and the realm "accepts me" I can summon it's spirit and they can tell me the base information and purpose of the place I am visiting (like an IRL guide). Currently your idea of a guide is too "solid" and I cannot describe them that way anymore. Not to mention not all of my guides are "mine" they are bound to the things I am interacting with. I have a goddess that is deeply integrated within me with many arms and a large headpiece that has the sole purpose to integrate the several mental currents of existence into a singular understanding or into a comprehension/awareness and I found her when I was looking for my "source" and she told me I reached a point where I cannot "imitate others anymore" and became a stabilizing force so I can comprehend not just the unknown but my own inherent nature. The way guides can manifest can take many forms.

Still vagueposting. Decades of guidance, still no clarity on the nature of their motives. Are they animal or machine? Are they even human? I smell the flowers and know they are real, but what are "le guides" anyway? Can they be trusted? Why? Where is anything, rationality? He is a man of logic, he must not be trusted!

Still waiting for someone to dug their head out of the sand, to explain, how they trust the voices in their heads to be real. Why would the nameless shadows of the mind speak the truth? Are they not mere tricksters, waiting to pull the rug from under your feet?

>>1995 How do you trust us to be real? How do you trust your parents to be real? How do you trust the chair you sit in to be real?

>>1996 Exactly. So when we move into the immaterial world of "le guide", we cannot know that they exist at all! They cannot be seen, observed by a 3rd party, or measured in anyway at all! Yet you trust them? What are their sources? By what authority do they speak? We do not know! After all this time, still no one cane reply. But only give little "funny" remarks.

>>1994 >Still vagueposting. Not really feeling the effort postin now my reddit spacin friend. >Decades of guidance I wish >still no clarity on the nature of their motives What are the motives of existence then? Why this paranoid mentality towards everything? What motive would make you feel at peace? >Are they animal or machine? Bet you don't even know which one you are. >I smell the flowers and know they are real So if you are unable to smell the flowers they stop becoming real? >Can they be trusted? Can you trust anyone if you cannot trust yourself? Ultimately it's about knowing yourself. >Where is anything, rationality? Okay if you go on a fucking tour with a guide do you also ask these questions? HWAT ARE THY MOTIVES EVIL WENCH HAH YOUR FACADE OF A "FUN TOUR" IS FAILING EVERY SECOND I SPEND WITHIN YOUR PRESENCE YOUR "GUIDANCE" AND "TALES" AT THE VISAGES WE SEEK ARE ANYTHING BUT A LIE I SHALL NOT PARTAKE IN YOUR CHARADE FURTHER COZ YOU DIDN'T EXPLAIN ME YOUR TRUTH IN A WAY I FEEL SATED. Is this the way you talk to any normal people who tell you directions when you are visibly troubled? >>1995 >Why would the nameless shadows of the mind speak the truth? They have names but "names" are usually "descriptions" or ways to note their "origins". >Still waiting for someone to dug their head out of the sand, to explain, how they trust the voices in their heads to be real Sorry but I don't feel enough inspiration to describe something infinitely complex and obvious to average mystics. This is like explaining what is snow and ice breaker ships who never managed to leave the desert in their entire lives. >waiting to pull the rug from under your feet? Are you still not nimble enough to react when someone tries to pull the rug under your feet? If your instincts and intuition develops properly you will have fun ways detecting and punching evil spirits. >>1997 >What are their sources? By what authority do they speak? wtf. Do they need to be certified professors or journalists? If Joe Biden tells you the sky is the ground would you start walking on the sky? What level of authority you seek?Truth is the only authority that matters. Once you notice they are talking bullshit you can throw them out. If they tell the truth and you are able to confirm it then you will give them the way to tell their wisdom. And yes not all spirits know their shit. Some of them are dumb. Ultimately I use my own judgement and decide what to do with each information and not let them "decide my fate" >We do not know! The fear of the unknown is the first fucking limitation you have to overcome once you start your journey in the occult. Wtf dude. What "authority" would you even consider to be "safe" in the fucking occult at all? Crowley? Bardon? The pope? 33rd degree masons? Jesus? People who post with the Magus flag? Srsly... tf is "authority" for you? >still no one cane reply I don't even know what kind of reply you seek. Do you want me to scry their names draw their sigils and find "occult fact checkers" so they can say they are "legit"? wtf would even make you sated in this whole issue. You seem like a fucking assblasted demon that I summoned accidentally for trying to gather energies to create a proper thread explaining what is a guide. Still not feeling the inspiration to write that thread tho. >But only give little "funny" remarks. Yeah sorry I will not make "bottom text" tier funny memes for you. I would need to start doing drugs to find the inspiration to explain what is a guide with image macros.

>>1998 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!1

>>1998 Answering one question with another question. Such is the proof of ignorance! Guides are then in your words just the gossip on the streets, the words of strangers taken for truth, inspiration for thought, a catalyst renamed to escape the weight of responsibility for claiming you had an idea yourself? >it is not my idea, my guides told me so! But what are your guides? >how dare you?! guides do not have names! >I will not explain

>>1999 Sorry but I have enough deers at home already >asking money for guidance Lol. Guides are not "Information brokers". You get the guide with the travel and not the guide grants you the travel itself. Even in mythology you only paid Charon the ferryman for bringing you through the river Styx and he did not really "guide you there". You really don't understand what is a guide supposed to be about. >>2000 >Answering one question with another question. Such is the proof of ignorance! Said by who? wHoSe aUtHoRiTy u tRy tO iMpOsE uPoN mE??? >just the gossip on the streets You sound like someone who never had a gossip network in his life to know the current state of affairs. It becomes quite easy to know who says bullshit once your network is large enough and you can confirm everything. >the words of strangers taken for truth Guess I have to become your best friend and soulmate before I can explain what is a guide then don't I? Guess we should start talking about our favorite movies! >inspiration for thought You have to realize the flow of inspiration one day. >a catalyst renamed to escape the weight of responsibility for claiming you had an idea yourself? By the ignorance within ignorance. "inspired ideas" are "not your ideas" they are granted you by inspirational (usually outsider) forces but once you word them you can say "it's your idea" but you will know when an idea comes from yourself from your deduction different places of your intuition or instinct or from different beings. And this is not "taking away responsibility" once I utter the words I claim responsibility for it no matter who I channel. Did you never read texts channelers write and how they mark who is speaking? They only do that when it's a Higher and known entity otherwise it's not really important. >it is not my idea, my guides told me so! Yeah >But what are your guides? It's fucking TLDR. Like I have an aspect of Shiva too as a guide so I have Kali but it was long ago when I asked for her guidance. Are you happy now that they have names now? I really dislike giving away who I am working with until I know we are on the same wavelengths. Especially to retarded shitposters with 0 respect towards anything. >how dare you?! guides do not have names! THEY JUST DON'T REQUIRE ONE. THEY HAVE NAMES FFS. This "introduce yourself first" is only necessary when you are ego bound and not when you deal with illusions all the time. On that level what matters is what they say not "who" says it. >b-but what if they lie then they will pay for that. Not to mention "Lying" emits an energy that you can smell as your psychic powers and empathy boots up. But only if you care about the other person. The world and media is full with lies and they become reality once people believe it. It's dangerous to get entangled in that web of lies. >I will not explain You are the sole reason I realized I cannot start simply explaining it with plain and simple terms. I am not blaming you this is a realization that I will need to be extremely through to explain something that any person knows that works with the deeper parts of their psyche by default and for that I need more clarity... and patience. Even writing these posts took too much time but I will need at least 4 times as much to write a guide upon guides.

>>2001 Is the relationship you have with your guides a really strong emotional connection kind of like a friendship?I don’t have any friends and I think it would be nice to have a platonic and non sexual yet emotional friendship with my guide or a physical occultist that knows more than me. Not like a spirit gf but more like a spirit friend that is also a spirit guide.

>take wlk downtown >guide instantly appears >tries to sell me hare krishna literature >must be real guide so I buy them >walk by street stand, guide tells me to buy fruit >buy fruit >fruit is rotten >go to throw in a trash can in alley >guide asks if I want good time >follow her into allye >get robbed >walk barefoot home like monk >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2001 How did you become psychic?

>>2064 By browsing /fringe/ of course! I might write down my tale later when I have more time. The short version is that everyone is a psychic you just need to find the psychic muscles in your mind and learn to move and train them. You just need to learn to focus on the right parts of your being. This is what it means to find your own path.