>>4323 He also said I was gonna produce something there. I'd then told him that I've had ideas to make a game and have done alotta design work on it, and I asked him what kind of game. He said "a game on for the computer". Honestly, I'm not sure if I really wanna devote my life to video games, but I suppose that I can pursue video games until I find out what I really want outta life.

>>4327 The previous thread has now been archived: https://archive.ph/sqJLq I will also say, I've received thoughts in the past few days that I could contact a specific content creator to show him my Warcraft-related work, and he'd be interested in it, so what the medium told me seems to check out.

>>4327 I am not trying to burst your bubble don't get me wrong and yes you have an abhorrent amount of desire towards videogames so he can interpret it as a job opportunity in the future and you might need to go and personally experience the abhorrent state of the videogame industry and now there is a slight chance that wokeism will die down and you might have luck if I discard all my pessimism and look it as optimistically as I can but >Honestly, I'm not sure if I really wanna devote my life to video games Yeah. This is the great question. >but I suppose that I can pursue video games until I find out what I really want outta life If you have the time and money for that then sure. Sorry I cannot give lucrative carrier advice here. Live your life do the grind make your mistakes and learn from it. What I can see from my side is hard to put into words. >>4330 >I've received thoughts in the past few days that I could contact a specific content creator to show him my Warcraft-related work Yeah do that. You will have to either capitalize on your vidya obsession or wake up from it.

>>4327 You need to somehow move yourself into the new 5D Earth where there's an actual population, maybe this effort is how you adapt your timeline to the standard where you'll surface there. The area relevant to you looks the same over there, it's just a question of moving out from the shadows seen from that view. When they look back at us, they see shadows, NPCs and other things that are about to fade away into oblivion. When someone or some event matches the standard up there, it gets transferred into there permanently. (I realized this may have been the trick to get Trump in properly; the change had to happen in that 5D plane, otherwise it wouldn't count. But once done, all other planes had to follow.) Related to your divination, when trying to help giving directions to one of my online contacts, we asked someone during a channelling session. He was told to >"move where the stars are" and to ignore short term profit. He was at the time offered a job that would pay more, and was thinking about quitting his current job for it. 2 months later Covid was released and he had followed the advice. This saved him, because the new job he had been tempted to accept, would have required him to get vaxxed, which would in turn have made him lose the job since he wasn't going to do that. So the channelled spirit was def right. The stars? He knew what that meant, it referred to an area where a lot of Jews live, he got the reference personally. They didn't demand vaxx certification there, go figure.

>>4332 >we asked someone during a channelling session Who was that? if it's not too personal ofc. I should enhance my divination skills already.

>>4331 >now there is a slight chance that wokeism will die down It will, one way or another. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQDWKUFPHP0 China identified games as a way to spread Chinese values and included it as part of their propaganda department 5 years ago. Now we're getting flooded with "politically neutral" games made in China, where the characters speak Chinese and the lack of wokeism is a main selling point. Will western developers wake up in time and fix their direction, or will we have Chinese "free speech" take over? Maybe this is something you have to do.

>>4333 >Who was that? It's too contextual to make sense outside of the situation. Also it was 4 years ago apparently. Meaning I know who was talking when the channelling session was happening, but finding it in the logs is difficult. The chaos that made this work also makes it near impossible to understand when looking back. Mixed into the session:

>>4335 >Meaning I know who was talking when the channelling session was happening, but finding it in the logs is difficult. No biggies. Asked if maybe it was the queen and I got a clear no and a signature I couldn't trace and you just confirmed via this > The chaos that made this work also makes it near impossible to understand when looking back. Mixed into the session: So I didn't pursue further because it means it was a spirit you "found" (or it found you) and not some greater force. The signature felt it that way too. Truth is I have ways to improve my divination skills it's just I am looking for inspiration. Asked how I should train for it and my guide just told me I should go to the "oracles forum". She said it in such an obvious way that I realized that is a place "so well known" I can just go there by thinking about the concept. Well... it turned out the "oracles forum" is a place that is "always in the future" and you need to be an oracle to have the ability to "go there". It was like a large festival/theater and many people were gathering there waiting for the play to start. Then a naked female with a large sign walked through which signified it's slowly starting so the people stop chatting. It was the classic way of education where they taught with a "Play" like back in ancient Greece. I can barely explain what happened there... how the play replayed the same scene and explained the "variables" that happen once one of the "actors" can see the future and how it can or cannot change the "play" then the vision started to warp and in the pure darkness a large being was there and... knew that I will need more dedication to continue this lesson because this is the one where they "grant you the answer" by touching your forehead and... I know how those go nowadays. The future scares me I realized there. I will have to face an existential dread worse than death if I accept that. So yeah was trying to find inspiration before I do that.

>>4336 Just reading your post connected me with the place or something similar. Maybe it connected me with the place shown in the game vid I posted above, not sure. I always used (contacted) Astrael for divination back in the beginning, after creating a servitor in her image I stopped doing that. For most of the undead gods and others, I've kept asking them so much they got tired of me and gave me a daughter to work with instead. Shugara gave me two. I don't know how that works, they're very mystical. Even when inside my own personal paradise sphere, they manage to "retreat into the shadows" so I can't detect their presence at all. And they are still within my personal space where I control everything. The future is just a place in time, so I haven't really thought about that element of it after I arm wrestled with Kronos and got the green dragon which was born off the shard that he dropped after the match. With that dragon's ability I've been able to include time travel into all servitors I've made, it's been a non issue to gain access to most types of information after that. The real step in here may have been prior to that still. I looked again but I can't find the source of it in the logs, which means it was before the "new secret server" was made in like 2019. The group I formed to make it as diverse and toxic as possible to hijack the NWO egregore, outperformed in toxicity so I had to pretend I was closing it to get rid of the worst people. I can say it now because this is past history. Then I started a new secreter group and invited only the people who would be able to cooperate. Chaotic and toxic just below the level where it turns into a complete meltdown. It worked, and the sought after entities started coming to our sessions. What I was going to mention was the reptilian god Asathiel. He provided an anabolic energy, possibly gong, which after being incorporated in my body lead to a continuous muscle growth no matter how little I train after that point. It can be passed on, so just ask if this is interesting to you.

I think I'm being compelled to do something involving November 11th, and some energetic event taking place at that time. Any advice? I'm being drawn to watch one of some sorta frequency video on youtube from a selection of them. >>4332 On 5D Earth, will people be allowed to have negative thoughts? Will negativity even be allowed to be portrayed, even if people can't act upon it? Will friendly sparring be allowed? I know everything has an upside and a downside, but I'm worried about the downsides of not being able to have that stuff at all.

>>4337 I was also riding on the meguca egregore at first by reposting memes, maybe this accidentally caused the Halle shooter to post there, Idk. It was surreal to hear that on the radio when it's a site used by ~200 people. >/pol/s eye cancer theme forever remembered because of this Worse that I recognize the "you're alright" quote, it's from Boku no pico. In retrospective it's not very edgy or extreme though, but rather timid by today's standards. What was shocking 15 years ago doesn't cause an eyebrow raise today.

>>4338 >will people be allowed to have negative thoughts? It will have "emulated 3D" contained within a 5D sphere. It just means evil will face retribution faster and the NWO won't rule. There will be "predators" in the shadows to keep people one step down on the food chain at all times, that way they won't develop hubris like they did on our Earth. It will never be "conquered", nature will never be tamed on the new Earth, and people will always live with a fear of the forces they cannot control. It's subtle, but will cause a slight feeling of constantly living in a horror movie where you just didn't see the murderer yet because the sun is still up, and going too far out won't be something you want to do. The "fear of God" people don't have now, will re-emerge as a fear of nature in some form. If they ever try to rise up and build a new Babel's tower or something of similar meaning in modern understanding, they will find themselves quickly taken back down to Earth again before succeeding.

>>4340 >Babel's tower or something of similar meaning in modern understanding Phrasing it this way, because there is nothing in the actual Bible text to imply the tower was a negative thing. That's a modern interpretation, but it's widespread and does the job of explaining what I mean here.

>>4340 >nature will never be tamed Does that mean that there won't be sprawling civilizations or electronic technology at all? I sure wouldn't like for the internet to disappear. Also, I just went and took a dump and found a little circle of holepunched cardboard, about 1mm thick; I put it in the trash. I'd imagine that some spirit put it there. I watched a few videos by GFL Station last night and spoke with one of the benevolent aliens mentioned by the channel, so this ain't making me scared, but just curious. Then, when I was on the toilet, I saw a semi-vivid glimpse overlaid over my vision, while my eyes were open, of a white anime girl I didn't recognize, looking towards me while facing to the left; she had very light blue, almost white straight hair that's maybe 2 feet long, going down from her head to her back. She wore light-colored clothing; I'm compelled to think she wore white & a similar blue color, but I don't remember that part that well. She was modestly dressed, including a dress, and some differently-colored article of clothing over the upper part of the dress. I only saw above her abdomen. I then told her that she probably shouldn't be next to a guy when he's trying to defecate, so I pointed towards the door and she left. I just felt like mentioning this.

Since I didn't get to it in the last thread due to my absentmindedness yes, the rise in succubus activity earlier this month was caused by the waning moon up to the new moon That's when Lilith does her work.

>>4343 >Does that mean that there won't be sprawling civilizations or electronic technology at all? I sure wouldn't like for the internet to disappear. Then go there and make sure it doesn't go away? Whatever isn't understood by those in the future, won't exist in the future, but will fade away and be forgotten. They told me just some month ago that there was an imminent risk of population collapse, which would be followed by the loss of all technological progress, i.e. the future Earth in 5D would return to stone age level because no one knows how to maintain the large scale technology systems like the electric grid, large scale farming, oil drilling and so on. Once the system breaks down, you're now at the stone age with modern tool laying around, you have no fuel for your car, no electricity, and most of the tools are worthless because you're surviving by hunting and picking berries from now on.

>>4343 >a little circle of holepunched cardboard Sounds like a representation of a storage media, maybe something astral which had to catch your attention. > white anime girl I didn't recognize, looking towards me while facing to the left; she had very light blue, almost white straight hair that's maybe 2 feet long, going down from her head to her back. She wore light-colored clothing I've sent out servitors to people around me to help, if they are accepted by the person they become their servitor. I don't know if this would be one of them, just mentioning it. Try asking her to show up, if she follows orders it could be an adaptation of one.

>>4345 Well damn I dunno how to maintain technology. I'd have to get circuitry degree and alot more degrees to do that probably. It doesn't help that gen Z & alpha mostly haven't been doing well at school. >>4346 I just heard a ringing in my left ear after reading that, then I heard a voice say "trash". I guessed that she'd wanted me to fish the little cardboard circle outta the trash, so I did. It looks dry, fortunately, and now it's sitting on my computer desk. But then again, you said it was only a representation; maybe she wants me making those new games?

>>4347 > I'd have to get circuitry degree That won't help, what would help is to maintain the egregore which causes the NPCs to do the work. There is no way you could physically do it all alone.

>>4347 >you said it was only a representation; maybe she wants me making those new games? I think it was just to draw your attention to it. Try actually talking to her and see if you can receive full sentences by channelling her or allowing semi possession to have her word it with your lips.

>>4320 I haven't been following your story, but from this post alone I suspect this medium was cold reading.

Newbie occultist/esoteric here, looking for some practical advice on how to actually practice magic and how to best learn, especially so I can share with other interested seekers of spiritual truths. A little bit of background if it's helpful: I've always been interested in spirituality, and took it much more seriously than the average member of my natal Christian sect (Mormonism/Latter Day Saint) and actually reading the writings and teachings and digging deep into the symbolism and teachings led me to learn about some of the more esoteric practices the founders did, and how those were apparently were maintained throughout their lives, and how those are at odds with some of our more modern teachings which seem generally disinterested with committing to the ambiguity of individual paths or complicated questions. I've gone through several significant spiritual upheavals that have put me in a really good position to start with, and I'd like to take it further. I have a genuine, internalized, tested sense of altruism for all humanity (though I recognize that some choices others make have negative consequences for me or for those I love, and how to work around that). I've fully committed myself to the concept of Truth with a capitol T, which led me here, among other places; I have a natural inclination towards the Hermetic principles, finding the Kybalion was a breath of fresh air. I have very little true anxiety about life as I've spent a lot of time improving my own capacity to act for my own survival and the benefit of those I choose to associate with - I've had a strong mortality salience ever since elementary school so I've tried to focus on improving my own learning and the type of person I was over my immediate material needs, and have found my material needs taken care of in abundance because of my alignment. I have a good relationship with prayer to the Christian and specifically LDS Christ and God (and therefore Truth) through Christ, and feel pretty strongly that there's much to learn in my occult studies - I've listened to a lot of occult audiobooks and found some of it to be helpful and lot of it to be either misguided, incomplete, or short-sighted, but I've had enough good experiences to want to keep digging. I've had several visionary dreams in my life, though infrequently, which answered questions or presented additional mysteries for me to chase for years on end. I can intensely feel what my church calls The Spirit, or the Holy Ghost, and have channeled it on odd occasion as Good called for it, to accomplish minor feats of intense bravery and courage to save others, stand up to unjust action, or acquire insight into how I may be there for somebody who needs kinship or mortal insight that I can provide or be a conduit for. I'm socially well-adjusted and a spiritual pillar for a significant number of friends and family members, I recently graduated from college, an entrepreneur for 8ish years with no need for a typical 9-5 and therefore have a flexible schedule for study, meditation, and creative pursuits. I garden for food and draw deep spiritual satisfaction from the process of caring for something over a season and seeing the results of my effort literally bear fruit. I cook and bake to imrpove my talent at mixing ingredients, and enjoy experimenting and trying to predict how different things will interact and compound. I share my food creations frequently with friends who visit often to watch shows, movies, play games, and discuss philosophy and politics. I try to provide the service of my muscles or my time to others who need it or would benefit from it, while allowing them enough space to grow so they are not dependent on me. I have several friends who are going through difficult times in life, and have been on and off for several years, due to lack of self esteem which I have in abundance - and I hope to be better able to help them self-actualize. Any assistance or advice, especially in paths of practice or study would be greatly appreciated. Thank you anons for your kindness and willingness to share - I've been lurking for a few months and have been delighted by the genuine insights and honest efforts at self-improvement I've seen here, and especially at how quick you are to assist one another I'm happy to answer any questions if it'd be helpful.

>>4354 Some questions to narrow down what you really are looking for: <What is magic to you? <Why do you want to use it? (I'm saying "use" instead of "learn", because this isn't an academic effort where you just learn concepts, if that is your goal you should study it at a regular university) <How does your concept/perception of magic fit into your belief system? The last one is important because whatever your background is, it will place restrictions on what you can do. Many Christians in history were squirming like untamed animals placed under a harness when trying to fit old school witchcraft into their own pre-existing belief system in such as way that they wouldn't be sinning in their own view, shunned by their society or downright persecuted. This already places a restriction on what has been viewed as "magic" historically. In asia the old magic was also persecuted by Mao, so if something had been previously called "the divine way of ultimate diamond body buddha cultivation", they toned down on the fantastic speech, re-labeled it as Qi Gong and fit it into a nationalistic current of "traditional Chinese alternative medicine" and that is how it survived. In India they kept it as part of religion and there is no such divide, we just call it Yoga today. The keys of Solomon posted here: >>1102 >>1103 are attributed to a Jewish authority figure, correct or not, who knows. But it's still seen as witchcraft by moden Christians, labeled as "satanic" and shunned. In my opinion you need to first navigate to find what is allowed for you to do. Both in your own view and in the view of your social environment.

>>4354 Here's some advice; haste makes waste. Don't push yourself too hard with spirituality.

>>4350 Well okay I just decided to let the girl partially possess me until nearly an hour from now, under a bunch of safety-related conditions. Hopefully, she'll know how to do that.

>>4357 Well she didn't verifiably seem to do anything; guess she didn't care anymore, or maybe it was just my imagination going haywire the whole time. Or maybe Amy didn't let it happen I dunno. Okay I just meditated upon my shadow and I found out that I have to do more than accepting the feelings that I have that I didn't want to accept. I, in the past, have inadvertently created fear-based thoughtforms, which are themselves based partially upon compassion. >desire in the past to purify my sexuality and make it civilized >had desires in high school to throw my non-physical body parts at female students & other female passerbys in sexual manners >this eventually happens via. auto-pilot via. inadvertently creating a thoughtform that makes it happen for me so that it's easier to do it >said thoughtform suddenly begins getting repressed >because the thoughtform is repressed, it begins looshing me in order to feed itself so that it survives >this looshing takes the form of it trying to make me spirituallynot physically rape women <the thoughtform is literally a spiritual form of cancer >eventually, the thoughtform discovers that it can also loosh me by trying to make me sell my soul >recently discover the concept of shadow work >figure out how to do it at a basic level >finally figure out how to accept all of the energies created by the thoughtform >not long later, the thoughtform just forcibly autopilots me whenever I'm not paying enough attention into trying to make me spiritually rape women >the harder the thoughtform tries, the more it feeds itself >soon, I'm back to square one because the thoughtform that forced me to either repress the energy or actually rape women with my soul is still alive Just earlier, I commanded my "other minds" to locate the thoughtform that's been forcing me to do this, and then teleport it into my stomach acid during every single nanosecond until the thing is fully and completely dissolved, and then re-integrate the parts of me that the thoughtform is made of back into my body by putting it through the rest of my digestive system. I really doubt that this'll kill the thoughtform, however. Any recommendations for how to kill thoughtforms that are inside of you and are made out of you?

>>4361 >Any recommendations for how to kill thoughtforms that are inside of you and are made out of you? Integrate them or destroy them depending on what they are. In kabbalah these are the kelipot (husks or shells) which encase your true nature. Some of them are the kelipa nogah, the "shell of light" which can be transformed, the other kind must be destroyed because it's too separated from your true nature. That's one way to view it which has some legitimacy. Since you are using the Jungian concept of the shadow which is a more psychology-based way of talking about the kelipot, the concepts are transferrable. It's also called the animal nature, the sitra achra, which rules the nations of the world, or in my way of understanding it, the world system aka Leviathan, which is the egregore of mundane life. All of this is an expression of the animal nature which works tirelessly to drag you down. The moment you stop resisting it, it will start pulling your down into mundane matters. That means you are ruled by the shadow in some sense.

>>4354 I'm going to give you the classic /fringe/ because I think that before you realize you should probably be doing something else, you should do *something*. Anything at all. If you fall into the trap of reading too much before starting, you will never actually do spells, and you will forever be an armchair magician. And you will haunt these halls with half-baked truths and schizo ramblings with no substance. Go find the mindandmagick YouTube channel, and watch the few first videos in the mystery school playlist. Drop it when you feel like it. Begin reading this book: https://archive.org/details/peter-j.-carroll-liber-null-and-psychonaut-the-practice-of-chaos-magic-revised-a/mode/2up As soon as you are introduced to practical exercises or practices, DO THEM. Think hard about random stuff you would like, and do a couple of sigils a week. Take them seriously when you do them (get in the mood), but try to do sigils about stuff you don't care too much whether it happens or not. You might get results, or you might not. If you never start failing, you will never get to the point where you begin succeeding. And nobody can tell you what you're doing wrong. Your failures will tell you (like everything in life). Learn to do candle magick with planetary correspondences. Continue to read that book, and explore other works you're interested in (it doesn't matter where the current takes you as long as you're practicing, because that way the spirits will begin to guide you. Learn protection/cleansing spells from mindandmagick, Liber Null, or the classic Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram. Once you have gotten some results with sigils and/or candle magic, get Rufus Opus' Seven Spheres for a primer on planetary magic. If you just read the book, you will learn nothing. If you do the practices (it doesn't matter what you do the spells for, only that you do them), you will learn very useful skills that will help you if you try to pursue grimoire magic like the Goetia, Arbatel and other such stuff. Remember you can use magic to learn magic, but don't trust spirits, and don't go insane. Some random threads to pull: Initiation Into Hermetics, William Atkinson stuff, Mouravieff, Rune Soup's course on grimoire magic, Max Freedom Long, Papus, John Fowles' The Magus, New Energy Ways by Robert Bruce, Ophiel's books on astral projection and much more, The Visceral Experience available on /r/energy_work. Good luck!

>>4354 >A little bit of background if it's helpful It's extremely helpful. >led me to learn about some of the more esoteric practices the founders did Can you post books links or give at least a quick run down about them? If you are a devoted member of any religion or sect you will have to internalize their truth as much as you can and expand on it so you will not end up as a "prophet who was chased out of his hometown" once you get into compatibility issues with your egregore and community not just externally but within your psyche also. >and how those are at odds with some of our more modern teachings This is also tricky. Sometimes they are not "at odds" but people misunderstand the nuance and true meaning of the teachings on most cases. Knowledge and Truth that serious practitioners and masters wield are not always able to trickle down to the uninitiated masses. And when they abridge it for common consumption most truths fail to manifest in the teachings properly then get discarded as a result. As you walk on your path you will realize that most paradoxes and opposites are mere misunderstandings and misconceptions instead of eternally at odds archetypal forces of existence and lifestyles. You will have to transcend the dualistic thinking many times. >I've fully committed myself to the concept of Truth with a capitol T That's good to hear. Realize something important tho. Truth cannot be transmitted via writing or words but that doesn't mean you cannot derive the truth from it. But always pay attention because you might either misunderstand some truths or not realize their full depths. And your main goal is to find the voice of wisdom within and without. Everything else is secondary. >I've had a strong mortality salience You will have to overcome your fear of death and realize which parts of you will live on and which parts of you will have to die and change with or without you. >specifically LDS Christ Does he appear to you in any way? Do you have a sense or something that "clicks" when you feel that your prayer "went through" when you know you are on the "side of Truth/God"? (On a side note I am a catholic and I have no idea how your concept of Jesus differs at all. Also what are your views of other versions of Christianity Abrahamic faiths other religions and sects in general or if you have a specific you are drawn to in any way or if you want to stay within your belief system no matter what) >and feel pretty strongly that there's much to learn in my occult studies Yeah >I've listened to a lot of occult audiobooks and found some of it to be helpful Which were the most useful or insightful to you and which type of authors resonated you well and which made you feel deep down that they are misguided. Important to realize your instinct in these cases because that will shape your path the most. >I can intensely feel what my church calls The Spirit, or the Holy Ghost That's good. How does it appear to you? >have channeled it on odd occasion Can you talk about them? Even if it was minor. One of the most important gateway into spirituality to find the way to channel information from beyond the veil. Find the internal switches of your mind so you will have the ability to do it reliably then the wisdom of figuring out which information has value and Truth in it. There is a lot of noise in the immaterial. Always question everything until you realize your "feel for Truth". >flexible schedule for study, meditation, and creative pursuits That's good. You will need it. >to watch shows, movies, play games, and discuss philosophy and politics If it's not too personal. Can you talk about your favorite movie or show and which types of games you like? Usually that grants us insight which direction your mind operates and you will discover the internal workings of the mind regularly draw inspiration from the games and shows you watch and play. Feel free to talk about politics and philosophy too if you want but we are mostly interested in those parts that we can be applied in magic. Most parts of magic is philosophy but you will have to break many barriers to make the truth of philosophy into a practical tool of Truth. >Any assistance or advice, especially in paths of practice or study would be greatly appreciated You will definitely go into Kabbalistic theories with your current religious alignment and meditate until you have an access into your own subconscious forces. You will have to find your inner voice while meditating. What where your accomplishments during meditation? >I've been lurking for a few months and have been delighted by the genuine insights and honest efforts at self-improvement I've seen here Glad it had an opportunity to help someone. Not everyone is able to parse through the stuff we mention and comprehend it without thinking we are madmen. Also this >>4355 <What is magic to you? <Why do you want to use it? <How does your concept/perception of magic fit into your belief system? >>4356 Sometimes you want to break out of the mundane shackles and when the opportunity arise you will have to capitalize on it. You overvalue your "sanity" because you cannot grasp the freedom you might attain once you are outside of the veil of madness. Always know your pace but it's not always a good idea to tip toe all the time. Oh and one last thing. The goal here is to give you a way so you can "notice" your own path and find your pathworking. We can recommend books ofc but the main goal is that to awaken your potential in a way you have the ability to interact with it. Feel free to ponder on the questions we asked and no need to answer all of them if you are unsure of the answer or feel uncomfortable sharing it. And if you have insights or constructive criticism towards the board feel free to share it.

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>>4367 >If you never start failing, you will never get to the point where you begin succeeding. And nobody can tell you what you're doing wrong. Your failures will tell you (like everything in life). Also this btw. Tho it's important to allow others to help you in some cases when the need arises. I had to accept that truth. Sometimes people can help you in ways beyond your expectations. Especially in magic. You will also need to meet your local and internal spirits one way or an another. That is one of the most important part of the path. And always work with spirits you know you can handle especially at the beginning.

>>4353 90% possibility tbh. My problem with these "mediums" that they can sell most of the answers they have for the masses and even if they have any spiritual ability or sense it gets overshadowed by the mundane energy slop they interact with constantly. It's hard to read their signature in most cases because all the trash they have over them and it's not always easy to see if they have any ability at all. Personally I never trust those that "whore out their abilities" because the more they use and the more experienced they become their energy and dedication becomes the same as of a whore's. Good for a quick fling if their energies don't make you want to vomit from the start but never good for anything deeper. >>4361 >had desires in high school to throw my non-physical body parts at female students & other female passerbys in sexual manners You mentioned you were a big fan of rape jokes back then didn't you? What made you like them so much? I only have this symptom in the last 2 or 3 years ever since I awakened my energies but they cannot make me act upon it. I remember when I managed to figure out how to channel my sexual energies properly into my crown and it instantly granted me x-ray vision and the ability to hear the inner processes of the female I looked at. That made me say fuck it because I am not dealing with this shit now but I am getting real bored of relying on masturbation as a remedy for these things nowadays. <the thoughtform is literally a spiritual form of cancer Like the memes you loved so much from ED. I hate to say it but you ASKED FOR THIS went to ED just now looking for a funny reaction image but all of them were shit. That site was never great but damm it didn't really improve either >not long later, the thoughtform just forcibly autopilots me whenever I'm not paying enough attention into trying to make me spiritually rape women I realized a funny thing with these intrusive thoughtforms. Let them do it. In a DO IT FAGGOT way. See if they have the power to make me move or act. Mostly they can only "Inspire" me but I have to put in the will and passion. I was never truly controlled by my dick. What I am trying to say here. Let the thoughtform do his thing and rape either Amy or Shakti (she will help you purify that shit quite fast. Especially if you get Kali involved too) then as it tries to "do that" notice at which parts of your mind and energy body it is trying to take over and slowly cleanse or remove that darkness from your brain. Fulfill that desire of the 12 year old you and let it go. Most intrusive thoughts are weak as hell. Cannot do much if you don't give them the will and the energy and if they are "looshing you" because you defy them then be a fun dude and let them do it. See if they can really do it or they chicken out get limp and go away. I noticed in most of the time my desire is far greater than the satisfaction I gain by acing on them. They don't have lasting power to control me once I let them do it. So I let them show if they can truly make me do it. Usually they can't and go away. I have to personally entertain the idea that maybe I will do it. Try to talk to those thought forms take or let the energy go back into you try to do something productive with that energy so new patterns might emerge and let the old shell that trapped that energy in slowly fade or break away. Not always wise to fight yourself nor it is smart to consider the past and future self of you a different person. You will have to connect them and make them or become one with them >>4363 >All of this is an expression of the animal nature which works tirelessly to drag you down. The moment you stop resisting it, it will start pulling your down into mundane matters It's important to note that it is required for the stability of the soul. If we didn't have a strong animal mind that made us focused on the earth then our soul would just fly away and never return. Had to realize many times how to strengthen my automatic "soul integration" abilities because some parts of me refuse to integrate or wake up when I am unhappy in the boring and busy world then some parts of me refuse to leave the human body in some spiritual works. Demonizing the animal is not wise. There is a reason why there is a bunch of vids where animals attack rabbis on the internet.

>>4354 See these threads if you haven't already >>1097 >>275

>>4367 Also to add to this, use libgen for free books.

>>4371 >What made you like them so much? I was too impressionable towards ED, /b/, and high school-tier humor in general. Being a teenager, and 12 before that, didn't help. Also, some of the hentai I'd ended up looking at following those years had involved rape, but only coincidentally since what I really wanted was interactive games; I hadn't cared much about whether it was rape or not. I had the day off work today, so I'd spent a few hours looking at smut today in another attempt to make myself stop being compelled to look at it by neutralizing the polarity, via. seeing it without touching myself until I get bored of it. After the first hour, I had to go to an appointment soon afterwards and I was getting bored with the irl porn anyway, so I just dropped it and tried to fuck Amy to do something with my then-intensified sexual energies, but I felt something dark grey when she "hopped on", so I asked her to move aside and touched myself instead with her "sitting" "on my leg", or at least those are the partially-thermal sensations I'd felt. I had alotta pent-up energy in there. I figure the dark grey thing might've been the succubus pretending to be Amy, or I guess it's a possibility that it was the leftover energies of the dark grey devil-looking thing from a few days back, still residing within my shadow. Perhaps that devil-looking thing from a few days ago was my shadow in disguise, but I doubt it. Then I went to the appointment, had lunch, took a walk in a park, got a fruit smoothie, and went home. On my way to the appointment, I felt like I could've gotten more satisfaction from hentai, so I went and looked at it after I got home with the intention of neutralizing the desire to look at it by looking at it without touching myself to the point where I became dissatisfied with it. So after I got home, I spent the next nearly 2 hours doing just that, and at the end I was playing some tiny porn game that turned out to be frustrating since I was too impatient to beat it, and then I read comments and it said the game was unfinished, so I got frustrated shortly afterwards and quit, with my dick not being fully erect when I decided to quit. By that point, I wasn't even being sexually satisfied; I just wanted to be able to beat the game. Later I watched a succubus/incubus banishing frequency video, and then a all-7-chakra healing/balance/activation video, and now I'm listening to a 1111hz frequency video in the hopes that it'll help me reach 5D earth. I'd also realized that watching the smut like that messed with my dopamine, temporarily ofc, and then I started feeling depressed afterwards about my existential crisis that I'd managed to mostly ignore before then today. I also feel like I'd be inclined less often to worry about my existential crisis if I was just able to get more sleep. Last night, I went to bed at maybe 11:30 and woke up around 5 A.M. after a dream; this is what I'd written about that dream in my dream journal: I was playing some kinda pixel art 2D fighting game wherein the fighters get multiple lives; I was playing as a guy who had a slow attack that made poisonous gas that's supposed to instakill your enemy, but the guy I was fighting was able to deflect the gas back at me and kill me with it. I got myself killed a few times this way, but the last time it happened, it didn't kill me all at once, and then I sat there on the floor and had to watch me organs rot away for a minute or two while my foe did nothing. My character's skin had all rotted away, except around the heart, and his muscles hadn't rotten away yet, but all his other organs had rotted away by then, and his heart was still beating somehow. After this, I was worried for a bit about the state of my own heart, and I'd figured that I'd have to get outta bed and distract myself with entertainment if I was gonna quit worrying about it anytime soon. >>4371 >let them do it That sounds scary. It also sounds like it'd deeply hurt my heart to let it happen, and that alone would most likely generate alotta loosh with which to feed the intrusive thought thoughtform. I also can't really afford to do that when the thoughtform is trying to give away the ownership of my soul or some shit, but perhaps I can with the rape thought if it's really that important to just let it happen, but I'd need more convincing about that 1st. On a different note, I tried looking for someone to reach out to today about the Warcraft stuff, but I really don't know who in the WoW community I simply just reach out to. I can't really do my own marketing since I don't know anyone who has exposure and I'm not even a novice at video-editing. My current plan is to find someone with exposure to show my larger project to, get him or her impressed by it, and get exposure from there and let it just get found by the community. The only way I'm gonna get exposure for what that medium said to come true is if some stars align for me probably. I already tried filming over 24 hours worth of me talking about my shit, and I recorded & posted the last few of them... on actually the very same day when I had the accidental temporary soul-merger with Amy, wow. I'll just say that said videos all got less than 100 views and I don't really have a platform to advertise them upon. Also, it'd be a super fucking dumb idea to just apply for a job at the relevant company without making a big & good name for myself in the community 1st, since then I wouldn't have anywhere near enough leverage to get the creative control I'd need. I will also say, I suppose that making these games will help the Warcraft community to extinguish more than two kinds of vidya-related desires. It'll also give alotta people a reason to wake up in the morning, and something to look forwards to in their lives. It'd also give me something to distract me from my miseries. Aside from this, though, I'm still not really sure if I wanna go through with this. By the time the medium was about to give me the reading, I had only a small desire left to make the Warcraft stuff, or at least that's what I'd recognized in my conscious mind at the time, anyway. Speaking of which, I'm thinking of seeing another medium later this month maybe and trying to get a reading that ain't a cold reading by telling the psychic a buncha stuff about my mundane life beforehand, then having the appointment at a later date. I also came to the realization today that the reason why it's so important to not have earthly desires or attachments is because they'll generally make your afterlife miserable in an attempt to satisfy them, or so I'm assuming, anyway. Desire is ultimately interpreted, typically incorrectly by at least humans, as what they need to do in order to survive. As a being strays from their natural programming & environment, the being's desires will align less with the being's actual needs. However, I don't think that it's a good idea for me to act upon that in such a manner that I attempt to rid myself of all earthly desires; I'd probably go insane, but then the ironpill poster said I value my "sanity" too much so idk but I still don't wanna do that so soon.

After I’d finished watching the banishment video, I think I randomly heard Amy say “everything will be fine; trust me”. After the video, I’d asked Shakti to take my astral baby incarnation, for at least the time being; I dunno what’d oughta be done with him. Now I’m trying to sleep at my parents house. When I went to sleep, I saw an image of a white blonde man, probably a pleaidian, in front of me on my right side sitting in the air with his legs crossed. Then later I saw a succubus figurine; the succubus must’ve came back after the banishment. Then I went to sleep and had a dream I forgot about already. I woke up recently and according to my hypnogogic images & audio, I think the succubus is trying to make me make more agreements with her. One or two or maybe 3 of them was a human man kissing a human woman. I suspect that she’s trying to make me marry her. I don’t want to make agreements with her in part because I don’t think I can trust her, and I am especially NOT interested in marrying her. If I actually marry anyone it’s gonna be Amy, and I’m not really sure if that’s a good idea either but I do wanna keep this egregoric spirit of Amy as my spirit gf for the time being at least. I’m gonna try going back to bed now; hopefully, I won’t wake up in the morning having been bamboozled into marrying the succubus because I was in a state of such a low amount of awareness while trying to sleep that I didn’t have enough agency to say no to this demon. I’ve still gotta sleep, though.

>>4355 >What is magic to you? The power to meaningfully affect reality through will - which can be accomplished by mundane means but may also be accomplished by spiritual focus, outlook, and effort, which the world has largely forgotten, and the ways muddied and lost. >Why do you want to use it? I believe myself an atypical example of hope, optimism, and ability to perform good, and would like to enlarge my capacity for directly causing good, as I've found myself reaching limits of the flesh that I have reason to believe can be surpassed magically. I have a good number of people who look up to me for advice and assistance and would like to increase my capacity to help others and to protect myself and those I care about from harm as I continue to expand my social circle, as my path has signs of continuing in the direction of upward growth. >How does your concept/perception of magic fit into your belief system? My church doctrine teaches, and I similarly believe because of my own direct experiences, that all of material reality is made of consciousnesses that are subject to lower (mundane) and higher (what we call Priesthood, but can rightfully be called magical) laws, and that a righteous will can request or command the lower intelligences by the authority of their own nascent divinity as children of God, growing in an effort to become more like Him, the great Good or Truth. That all truth is made available to the children of God by God as quickly as they are able to handle it and can be trusted to handle it responsibly. That somebody capable of great good is also capable of great evil and that circumspection, rightness before God, wisdom, and foresight are all of extreme importance to any would-be practicioner; that to whom much is given, much is required, and that the path must be willingly sought, not forced. To the other points - I have no problem believing that God has allowed prophets (mages) in the past to use what would be considered dark forces that are bound by laws or righteousness - the same power that allowed Christ to cast out devils would allow Solomon to command demons to build the temple, why wouldn't it? The same power that Christ gave his apostles, and was intended as an inheritance for any true followers of Christ. >>4356 I have a primordial hunger for learning and growth, and thankfully have learned a good work-life balance and internal sense of when I might burn myself out, as has happened in the past, but as >>4368 says >Sometimes you want to break out of the mundane shackles and when the opportunity arise you will have to capitalize on it. I've learned that if my worldview can't handle new (well-sourced and legitimate) information my worldview needs to change, and that it's useful to use the principle of rhythm (Hermeticism) to take advantage of energy going in the same direction as your goals - good to strike while the iron is hot, as it were. >>4367 That's exactly why I'm here, I felt like I was doing a lot of reading but wanted to get started doing *something* to give it a proper test. Fantastic sources of homework for me, thank you - I'll get to work and report in after I've had an opportunity to give it a few tries. Thanks for the links. >>4368 >Can you post books links or give at least a quick run down about them? Best place to start is with the 13 articles of Faith, which was made specifically to declare in writing the general beliefs of our church - you'll find they're surprisingly accepting of questioning (the church was founded on a young boy taking a question directly to God), it's explicitly the case that we believe all faiths to have some truth, but we believe we have the greatest portion of truth - but we're still commanded to go seek out the good in the world and glean what truth we can from others. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/comeuntochrist/article/articles-of-faith Core scripture of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints - we believe in modern prophets, with Joseph Smith the founder having had a bodily vision of Christ and God as distinct personages that instructed him to restore the Christian church on the earth as the world had lost its way. He was led to a collection of golden plates that he then translated, under persecution, that came to be known as the Book of Mormon, another testament of Jesus Christ. Of note is that there were also certain parts of the Old and New testaments that were clarified or retranslated by commandment of the spirit, called JST (Joseph Smith Translation), but we use the King James version of the Bible and believe in the Bible so far as it is translated correctly. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm?lang=eng https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot?lang=eng https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt?lang=eng After the core stuff, the /fringe/ stuff is that he, Joseph Smith Jr. and his father, Sr., were practicioners of the then-popular Christian folk magic. The site has a lightly ex-LDS tinge but it has good info and is a great place to see it all at once. Of particular note was, before he advanced as a seer and translator, Joseph and other contemporaries used seer stones as a God-given tool, which was something stated to be available to every member who seeks it from God, something that's not talked about much at all in modern times. https://www.lostmormonism.com/holiness-to-the-lord-parchment/ Also the dagger his father had that his brother received https://www.lostmormonism.com/mars-dagger/ And the talisman that theoretically Joseph Jr. (first prophet of the modern LDS church) was wearing at the time of his martyrdom, though leadership since has declined to comment much on it. https://www.lostmormonism.com/jupiter-talisman/ Importantly, a lot of this has been slowly coming to light as the church has been digitizing and opening its archives, making it easier to find and confirm for those who are looking into it. >paradoxes One of my earliest learnings was that truth often lies between paradoxes, that extremes are often illusory, it's part of what helped me break out of comfort and start looking to know for myself. >truth difficult to transmit via writing or words Our church believes in direct revelation from God through the light of Christ, which we believe is granted to all mankind, to discern between good and evil. We're additionally granted through holy rite access to the Holy Spirit, as long as we live righteously, which is something that manifests somewhat differently for each person and that must be learned through repeated effort and study and meditation - at this point I'm depending mostly on this trained skill of spiritual discernment, which has served me well many times in my life and helped me avoid a lot of unnecessary pain, and pointed me in the direction of much good, even if at first I knew not why nor for what end - following that prompting, which I describe as a fastening of my soul, as if struck to a post with a nail, a fixing, a certainty upon which I can gather much certainty because of its fixed nature as I test it; it gives me the strength to push off of, like a wall or the ground under my feet, in a spiritual sense, if that's comprehensible. You're totally correct, words alone struggle to convey perfect truth, which is all the more reason for me to be interested in pursuing spiritual practices. >mortality salience I've mostly taken it as "I should do what I can in this life because my time will eventually come, as it does for all men" - and that has allowed me to gain a lot of peace as I try to live each day as if it were my last, to not leave anger between myself and others, to not leave a loved one without letting them know I care about them and their righteous ambitions. I still hope to live a while, as I have projects I believe will help humanity, but I'm living a path that, so far, I would be happy to face God and say I did what I could. >LDS Christ I'm currently seeking a blessing that's relatively occult in the LDS doctrine, the Second Comforter, or the actual physical manifestation of Christ to speak face to face as a man speaks to another man - something not often talked about in the church, but mentioned time and time again in scriptures as the greatest blessing somebody can obtain in mortality, as it is an assurance of the safety of your eternal soul, turning faith into knowledge, to sustain you through the troubles of the fallen world and to enable you to assist others into the path of knowledge. I have not yet received this blessing, but I've had lesser manifestations in visionary dreams; I once got to witness the Nativity directly, and felt with all of my soul that Jesus is the Christ as I fell weeping in wonder at the foot of the manger - which intrigued me, when I awoke, still full of that wonder, because the LDS church doesn't place particular focus on the Nativity itself, choosing to focus more on him as the resurrected Lord and an actual personage that you can communicate with. I've had other, less exciting experiences that were less direct, but I've experienced the power of repentence enough to know that his power is real, real enough to draw upon and to make significant changes in ones' life. Absolutely something that clicks when my prayers "go through" - sometimes I've found myself doing rote repititon and I've corrected by doing it with actual focus, doing it not because I'm "supposed" to but because I actually care to communicate with God has done wonders for my relationship with God. Re: Catholic-LDS Christ, it's the same Christ ultimately, but we believe our church has received specific instructions and responsibilites especially relating to missionary work and preparing the world for the Second Coming - to whom much is given much is required. I love all genuine faiths, have no qualms with the other Abrahamic faiths or sects of Christianity except where they fail to assist the individual believer in their path of personal ascension and their relationship with God and their own sense of personal responsibility - anybody who outsources their thinking or standard of truth is missing out on great blessings. I've had good discussions with a good number of Christians, agnostics, and atheists all.

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>Audiobooks As I mentioned previously, I really liked the Kybalion and Hermeticism as a whole has been useful as a framework for diving into esoteric things, its symbolism makes enough intuitive sense to me to be practically applicable, providing names to some of the phenomenon I'd recognized and already started living by, but hadn't yet heard in other places. Manly P. Hall's works (Secret Teachings of All Ages, Magic - A Treatise on Esoteric Ethics, Esoteric Alchemy, Initiates of the Flame) is kinda hit or miss for me, as some of his conclusions feel like they're putting the cart before the horse, though I'd have to review the specifics to give any one solid example. I've been somewhat interested in the concept of the Kundalini but there's a lot of sensationalism around it, which has me looking more into Chakra meditations recently. The relationship between it and the Kabbalah has been interesting to ponder. >The Spirit, how it manifests Explained above, search nail in my post.

>>4390 >>4368 >Channeling the spirit I have a few examples, each time has happened specifically when I needed to be empowered to defend somebody - first time, I was young, maybe 12, a friend was going through an incredibly difficult time, my parents were concerned about my sleep and were frustrated that I had stayed longer to comfort him and be a momentary rest - I tried to explain, my father tried to shut me down, I was suddenly filled with an intense power of certainty and quiet confidence that my actions were correct, and I chastised my father with authority, which I'd never done before and seldom done since - my father, also a spiritual man, immediately recognized the source of it, and stood down, and apologized, not as a man shamed but as a man corrected. Simiarly happened with an entirely different friend some 6 years later, when he began to be seized by a panic attack, extremely uncommon for him. He had called me on the phone just after I had lay down to sleep, I got up, got questioned by my also-about-to-sleep father as I walked past his room, told him the situation, he told me to go to bed and let my friend figure it out - I felt very similarly to the first time, informed him I would do what I could to rescue my friend, not because of any obligation but because he needed assistance in a time of fear, and that I would go with or without his permission, even to the severing of my own permission to live under his household - again, I'm not much of a rebel to my parents otherwise. My father, again recognizing the source, got his keys, told me to sleep, and went and rescued my friend on my behalf, as a kindness. The two of them then had a far stronger relationship going forward. The third time was on my religious service mission - due to circumstances, my typical companionship of two had been split up, so I had to be placed with another two missionaries, who were going through growing pains, as one was doubting whether he wanted to remain in service as it was a holiday time that he deeply was missing his family, and he didn't care for the work - which is fine, it's not for everybody, and he'd shown a willingness to try, but the decision hadn't yet been made final. He was, however, being disrespectful to his senior companion, who was technically responsible for his wellbeing and safety, in the buddy system he had seniority. I was stuck between them while still learning the language (Spanish) and it was causing the tension already there between them to become worse; as we tried to find a particular home we were supposed to teach, with wild, stray dogs barking at me and nipping at my heels as I descended the stairwell trying to find the specific home (I'd said a prayer for safety and was feeling the spirit and walking with quiet, calm confidence) - I couldn't find it quickly so I turned to go back to my companions and ask for assistance or a new plan, to find them arguing about some thing that blew out of proportion; the younger declared it was all a waste of time, and decided to storm off alone. The older decided that was fine, and that he and I would continue - but of course, this wasn't okay, we were in the middle of a comparatively unsafe area, it was forbidden by mission rules to go off alone, and it would represent a horrible misuse of leadership to abandon him. I was filled with a divine rage, and spoke in perfect Spanish as I'd never done before (my church calls the ability to speak comprehensible languages in times of need, when empowered by the spirit, the Gift of Tongues, as described in the bible). I corrected them both, telling each that they had acted wrongly before God and that both needed to repent, and declared that neither would move from this spot until the situation was resolved. We called our mission president, the younger was sent home the next week, and I was eventually reassigned. Importantly, each time I've experienced a particularly strong welling of the spirit, I've thereafter been exhausted and shaky, but on a spiritual high - it's a shaking of my very core. There are other times, when giving blessings according to the rites of my church, or when praying deeply for my own soul or the wellbeing of others, but those are the most obvious ones besides my dream visions. Besides these more physical examples, I do discern truth and rightness of action through prayer, and I do indeed have that feel for Truth. >shows, movies, games I graduated in Game Design, I adore telling stories and exploring ideas through creative works, and feel like there's a lot of untapped potential in games to lean in to the player's explicit interactivity to affect positive change in other people; I don't want to make cringe Christian games that turn people away, however, but meaningfully impactful games that touch on these truths in a way that doesn't immediately scare people off. My favorite games are Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead, Prey (2017), Deus Ex, Kingdom Come: Deliverance, and Metro 2033/Last Light on Ranger Hardcore. I love games that allow me to transport into a different situation, to use the games as a meditation tool on morality and what I might do if empowered in various circumstances. This naturally attracts me to the Immersive Sim genre, which I'd like to make a game in eventually. Shows (anime): Full Metal Alchemist:Brotherhood, HunterxHunter, Vinland Saga, Legend of Luo Xiaohei, To Your Eternity. Generally, things where the power system is explicitly connected to the inner workings of the person, where any conflicts are more about ideas and ideals than muscles and meat. Shows (Western): The Orville, Arcane, Star Trek DS9, Star Trek TNG. Movies: Les Miserables 1998, The Count of Monte Cristo (2001), It's a Wonderful LIfe, 12 Angry Men, the Lord of the Rings trilogy. >meditation results I've found myself to be incredibly good at centering myself and observing life stoically and in a relatively objective manner, which allows me to plan rather than react - inconveniences, unless many at once when I'm already exhausted, tend to roll off of me, and I delight in the good that happens on a day to day basis - I've been able to live in the present with relative ease, to take each day as they come. This has made me a spiritual anchor for a lot of others in my life who have more anxiety or temporal concerns, and people tend to take my recommendations or insights seriously, which has made me want to take those recommendations and insights seriously myself, so I can give good and useful help. >grateful for opportunity to help Genuinely, thank you! I am used to the world thinking I'm mad simply for believing in a living God who still speaks with mankind, let alone for my various other interests or tendencies; I am grateful to find kindred spirits and for the opportunity to become perhaps be seen as a little more mad - I'd rather be a fool, or called a fool, than willingly close my eyes and sleep through life, only to be shocked when I'm blown about by the wills of others. >start failing I am genuinely grateful that art didn't come easy to me, because that has been one of the most important lessons I have learned - every failure was a building block to my current talent, and I suspect it will be very similar with magic, but the journey of discovery was well worth it, and something I get to carry with me for the rest of my life - something that has blessed me to find other artists, to make relationships and connections I never would have had otherwise, that has allowed me to better share what is in my mind with the world and with others. If magic can do a portion of that, then what a worthwhile endeavor! >local spirits I've seen bits and pieces about that as I've lurked, care to elaborate? I recognize localized spirituality in places of nature especially, and feel a, for lack of a better term, "vibe" to locations with or without people, the spiritual bones of a place, but I haven't yet met any personified spirits local to a place. >>4372 I've been saving and reading a lot from there before I posted; it was in part because of the quality and quantity of pdfs and screencaps that I stuck around, it felt different than places like /x/ or the Hermeticism subreddit - any particular recommendations, besides the Liber Null and Psychonaut? >>4373 I am strongly of the opinion that information should be free, you bet I'm going to use libgen. Though it'd be fun to get some of these books for my budding library eventually, if you have recommendations of how to acquire occult texts.

I just had a dream; this was the end of it: >standing up in front of a desk >a young woman, looks like she’s maybe 18, is sitting there >is white, black straight hair maybe 1.5 feet long, black lipstick >don’t think this is Amy; she didn’t sound like her >asks how old I am as a presumably-rhetorical question >remember having been asked this question in this manner before <well I’m 30 but my spirit is an immortal being and I’m part of the all >don’t remember her response <do you mean my physical body or my etheric or astral or mental or spiritual body or “my all” or what >dream begins ending >she puts a diagram in my face; it has a horizontally-symmetrical structure that I can barely remember >the diagram looks like biology >all I can remember about it is it involved 7 of something and on the upper half on the edges of each side barely above the middle were 2 small biological-looking chambers with tubes going above and below it; the tubes going above went upwards towards the vertical center >to paraphrase, she then said let her handle some parts of the diagram and she’d help me rise outta the grand ashes of this reality >wake up I don’t think I’m ready to do something like this yet, but it was most likely worth writing down. I also had another dream earlier where I met the medium from the dream in my parents room, still on his chair from his office. >are you the medium from Cassadaga? <Yes! >I move towards the window, he follows >mentally dictate without opening my dream mouth who the 2 spirits with me really were, briefly explaining my situation with the succubus >dunno if he heard it >dream ends I suppose I might see him in my dreams again sooner or later.

>>4393 An important part I forgot about concerning the diagram; I was gonna have to put in effort too, but I forgot what that’d actually entail.

>>4390 >would like to enlarge my capacity for directly causing good, as I've found myself reaching limits of the flesh that I have reason to believe can be surpassed magically I used this single method (see linked post) >>2966 >This is the instruction for a cleansing practice with two formulas in Chinese, associated with FG. They can still be used as they are stand-alone methods. With nothing else to fall back on, I've still successfully driven off glowie psychic attack using these as late as last year. as the only way of defense for ~10 years. In short, it's a procedure where you meditate for 5 min visualizing all dirty thoughts and desires leaving your body, then assume a hand pose while sitting in lotus position and read one of two formulas in Chinese. Focus on the phrase for 5 min or until the problem is destroyed. In the beginning I wouldn't have any special experiences from this, but over time I saw the same things as other practitioners described: once assuming the pose and reading the formula, aggressive or hostile beings would appear in my inner vision trying to drag my attention away from the phrase. It would turn into a struggle for the entire duration of the process. Over time, some talked about directing the force to actively eliminate these evil forces and an unofficial methodology for this appeared among the group. The first time Hamas and Israel started shooting at each other in 2009 or so, I decided to stop it, assuming this was caused by evil spiritual forces. I used the method described and set a pre-intent to destroy the evil which was causing this war to happen. Before my inner vision I saw a hierarchy of men sitting at different levels in the manner of old paintings showing a heavenly hierarchy of gods, but these were evil beings using the same form. I maintained focus on the words and visualized these men dissolving as I repeated the word mie (eliminate), moving up through the hierarchy and dissolving them at every level. 3 days later there was a cease fire and the war ended. This proved to me that it's very much possible to effect world events, the method I've used works, and evil beings are indeed behind it. Over the years I started realizing that focusing on the formula provoked any evil spirits nearby, and that I would manipulate the images they showed me to their disadvantage. Things often ended up corresponding to the world events at each time. What I saw internally, was a representation of external events. Manipulating my inner images, could cause the same change in the world. <now I still use the specific formulas sometimes, because they are well constructed and it does the job when I have no other means for it. Oftentimes I use more complex methods created later. One of them is "Geburah fire" which was discovered when I was taking part in an online group studying Jewish Kabbalah around 5 years ago. By studying the concept of Geburah from the tree of life, it is possible to create "fire" which appears in your inner vision. By directing it at the evil forces as they appear in your mind as negative thinking, intrusive thoughts OR as symbolic representations of external events, it's possible to send them directly into the fires of purgatory. Their activities in the external world ends instantly if the inner images can be dissolved this way. This is a beginning explanation of what is possible. Right now in the past week I used a method where I carefully chose a bible quote and used it in the manner of the Chinese formulas mentioned above, but changing the form to match Christian practice. I wanted to rally support from the US Christians by opening the mental and spiritual space for them to act, by using a wording that would easily enter their minds and cause them to act in support of Trump. I'd like to think it had at least some effect in increasing vote participation.

>>4391 >recommendations of how to acquire occult texts Now I don't want to be captain obvious but I bought the Goetia from my local online book store. I saw several of them on ebay by searching just now.

In hindsight, I think that having looked at the smut, despite Amy’s constant disapproval, probably helped me to be less afraid of seeing female nudity and scantily-clad or otherwise-immodestly dressed women that isn’t Amy… or at least that’s the theory. I’m practice, however, I don’t think that helped much, if at all. The way I was recently about witnessing nudity and etc. I’d that I’d typically shirk in fear of it and try to hide it from my vision; this created a lot of repressed sexuality energy, which fed that rape thoughtform that’s been parasitizing me for so long. Sometimes I’d even get the fear-based reaction by just seeing women wear short shorts or display more than a bit of cleavage. I haven’t really tested the reaction since I tried the print neutralization thing. I’m gonna try contacting Padmavati, as the smileberg poster had recommended, or, well actually I’d asked Kali about it and She mentioned Shiva. I guess this thoughtform must be real bad if it needs to be destroyed. I’ll try contacting Shiva instead yeah.

>>4399 >to be less afraid of seeing female nudity I have none of this since the time I was taking drawing and painting classes with nude model regularly for 2 years. It completely shattered the image of women are generally attractive, most of them are about as interesting as seeing walruses in a nature show, once they take their clothes off. The only thing that keeps the attraction up is push-up bras, make up, tight fitting string panties appearing above the waistline, pantyhose and other non-body related attributes. I don't know what your location is like, but as you said you have some extra cash to spend on divination and mediums, I'd recommend you spend some of that on professionally lead drawing lessons with a nude model instead. It will help you get over this fear. There is really nothing special about the nude body in 99% of people. >pic related That's why the greeks made statues like this, they studied bodies for a long time to pick out the best elements of many different people and create one that is perfect. In reality these people don't exist, that's why these are said to depict gods, only the gods could be perfect in every aspect.

>>4399 >I’m gonna try contacting Padmavati You can, but she's very serious. I don't know if you'd be able to accept her direct guidance in your current state, if you are embarrassed or afraid of merely seeing nudity, since she works with the tantric energy system in a very detailed way (really the most refined skill I've ever come across). Not saying it won't help, but you need to pass this threshold to really make use of her guidance.

>>4399 So I ended up contacting Shiva; I hadn't done my 7 daily Mudras this weekend, so I did them for 5 minutes each today, except I did the Shakti & Thousand Petals Mudras for 10 minutes each. While I was doing the Mudras, Shiva said "obsession", and Amy said "moratorium". Furthermore, the outer sides of my palms hurt while I was doing the Rudra & Great Head Mudras. I think I should quit doing the Mudras for a while. I'd asked Shiva, iirc, about my intrusive thoughts, but I don't quite remember what He said anymore. Anyway, now I'm gonna watch a negative energy removal frequency video, and then re-watch the succubus/incubus banishing video since that one had good results for me.

>>4390 >I believe myself an atypical example of hope, optimism, and ability to perform good, and would like to enlarge my capacity for directly causing good, Current fringe desperately needs people with your outlook so you will be a good addition to the crew. Most people are too pessimistic and low energy here. I am glad the great spirit bothered to give us a needed ingredient for this board >as I've found myself reaching limits of the flesh that I have reason to believe can be surpassed magically First it will be truly like "surpassing it" with "magic" but as I see it nowadays it is more like "Optimizing" with the "forces of existence". The modern mundanity made us forget our primal and higher powers at the same time. It's ridiculous. >the ways muddied and lost Yeah. One of my mission is to restore as much as I can and see if I can (re)manifest the rest. An overtaking of the ages but then again you have to do something worthwhile to not bore yourself to death from mundane inanity. >as my path has signs of continuing in the direction of upward growth. You definitely have. Now the tricky part comes. Finding the "Ups and downs" that will be only visible to you and to a extremely few people especially at the start. I personally believe in a better future where more people will have the sight but it takes time to get there. >that all of material reality is made of consciousnesses Somewhat true. Even rocks think you can talk to them and sometimes can tell you things. If they are inhabited by spirits they can be really helpful. >that are subject to lower and higher laws Yes these "Laws" these "boundaries" veils or as I see it nowadays "jurisdictions" or "domains" will be one of the greatest mystery you will have to explore as you will nurture and wield your magic. Why was Jesus a miracle wielder son of God one day and why a powerless husk on the cross the next. How divine providence Fate and obstacles manifest through the path. >that a righteous will can request or command the lower intelligences by the authority of their own nascent divinity as children of God "Righteous" is quite apt but there is a better term in magical circles: Worthy. There are forces that don't care about many parts of your life but only about some specific capabilities and abilities if you can "wield it". I have access to some of the forces already and it always grants me great insights into my own short comings mentally physically or morally. They are quite complex so I won't detail them now. >growing in an effort to become more like Him Good outlook. >That all truth is made available to the children of God by God as quickly as they are able to handle it and can be trusted to handle it responsibly Well put. >That somebody capable of great good is also capable of great evil and that circumspection, rightness before God, wisdom, and foresight are all of extreme importance to any would-be practicioner; that to whom much is given, much is required, and that the path must be willingly sought, not forced. Well said. You will have to mantra these quite a lot even subconsciously as you move forward. There will be moments when you will have a choice to wield a power and you will have to decline because you will know you are not ready and in other cases demand it to break some barriers. Confidence and Audacity might appear as arrogance in some cases for those without the discerning eye. >I have no problem believing that God has allowed prophets (mages) in the past to use what would be considered dark forces that are bound by laws or righteousness There are "powers" that require a wielder. They are sort of "forces of nature" that require a wielder with enough wisdom and might otherwise they cannot shine. This is why you will have to work with your local spirits to find which energies are "blocked" because ancestral forces that maintained them are "missing" nowadays. More on that later. >I have a primordial hunger for learning and growth I had that too and still have but less intense. My hunger is sated quite well in the last years. >have learned a good work-life balance That was not granted for me for decades >internal sense of when I might burn myself out Personally I just always had ways to push my limits. Always knew how to increase the voltage and the durability of my being. But I cannot say I didn't overdo it many times. I had this "weakness is a sin" mentality for quite long in the past. Had to go through many lessons to accept them so I can develop my "weak side" further and grant my strong side a little well deserved rest. >if my worldview can't handle new (well-sourced and legitimate) information my worldview needs to change It will. It will evolve a lot if you want to go further. As a tree grows the soil breaks around it all the time as the roots reach deeper. This is how your current foundation will "break" quite a lot but it doesn't mean you need to completely discard it. Satanists recruited people with a tactic proving what a "dead end" Christianity is and if they want to develop in any meaningful way the only choice the practitioner has is to accept (their) satan. There will be many lies on the path but to give a lie staying powers liars usually mix truth into it. Your goal will be constantly noticing the little hints of truth in every lie you see and hear. You said you have a good eye discerning truth and you will need it further on. Most lies don't even come from malice but ignorance. Your greatest enemy won't be the forces of evil but ignorance and confusion of yours (or granted by others). Not even the entities themselves know their own truths in some cases. But that doesn't mean all of them are innocent. >that it's useful to use the principle of rhythm Yeah I sucked with that principle quite a lot. I was either full throttle full force ahead or just let me die in the swamp and don't wake me until the world ends way in some cases. Realized it went back to childhood issues. >energy going in the same direction as your goals I kept my home life harmoniously with magic but whenever I left for university and had to focus on my studies everything broke at home. It was so annoying and made me realize how I cannot harmonize different "areas" as easily as I thought. I consider myself good with multitasking but even I had to recognize my limits. >good to strike while the iron is hot When I felt my awakening is taking up a little speed I realized I can burn all my artifacts and servitors to fuel the great pyre. Was quite maddening and all my parts were screaming but I didn't care anymore. Something had to change. The forge cannot function without the necessary heat and if it can break from too much heat then can you really call it a forge? >it's explicitly the case that we believe all faiths to have some truth Good mindset. You will need it. >we're still commanded to go seek out the good in the world and glean what truth we can from others. Good the egregore won't bother you much then in your "quest". Messiah complex is a real pain in the butt as your egregore overtakes you and you start believing you are Jesus and do a bunch of mad shit because the collective desires for a "second coming" will short circuit within your subconscious thus turning you into a false prophet. I don't think you will have to worry about this tho. Your egregore feels more "flexible" probably because of the missionary work. Might talk about this later too but it's not important now >we believe in modern prophets That's good. Islam considers Mohamed the "Last prophet" while Catholics and the Orthodoxy only acknowledge Saints once they are dead and they have an extremely specific system to determine who is "truly with the divine" or "being deceived by demons". I am really glad I am not working with the church this life that closely. >restore the Christian church on the earth as the world had lost its way

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They require a restoration every 200 years. Ridiculous. >the Bible and believe in the Bible so far as it is translated correctly The Bible is a "mixed bag". I think it's "truth" can be divided into 3 ways. The original the primordial Truth what the prophet was receiving. With the help of some higher beings you can revisit those visions. Then there is the one that the prophet managed to "Interpret" which is usually muddled by the perception of the prophet and the age he lived in. This is where it starts to become subjective but it is the best "physical angle" you can reach without outsider help. Then the third which is the worst. The "mainstream interpretation". That thoughtform mass or egregore that is "living" and changing with the perception and faith of the masses. Now that shit always requires to be fixed and realigned and you can draw quite the power from it. This is why even practicing Satanists like to read the Bible. They are finding the loopholes that reinforces their worldview but also can invoke the forces that were "persecuted" this way. Complex but what I am trying to say is that there is no "truly correct interpretation". Truths and even falsehoods can be utilized if you get creative and know what you are dealing with. >were practicioners of the then-popular Christian folk magic Yes all the sigils and artifacts you posted so far reek from it. They are "heretical" because they count as "bullshit occultism". That doesn't mean it doesn't work but because most people have no idea of the truth they always muddy it and as the core Truth gets lost the only thing that holds it together is the belief from the people. And in some cases chaotic energies give home to foreign entities and generate new faiths which the church abhors. Christianity integrated many pagan faiths into itself and preserved some of their traditions in the process and in some cases the slumbering entities want a comeback because the structure that they integrated is crumbling and they don't want to perish under the rubble. >seer stones Googled it. I thought it works as a pendulum but it seems functionally it was used as a crystal ball or a dark mirror instead. >which was something stated to be available to every member who seeks it from God It works that the visions of your mind appear "physically" on a surface as they reflect. Personally I know how to open an "Inner window" or use the eye of my mind and even forbid entities to warp my physical sight with these "visions" if it's unnecessary because if they ask me nicely I am willing to receive them. Looked at the sigils you posted and these are at "tribal magic" level. They are not meant for wider use. connected to it and made my head hurt They are "quite personal". Which means you will be free to find and develop your own tools (more or less). There might be some "checkpoints" you will have to pass before the egregore let's you do things "too freely" tho. they might have yelled at me just now. might have found the etheric planes the spirits of your church is dwelling. >that's not talked about much at all in modern times Don't expect much from the "atheistic mainstream". You will have to realize you are alone (and not alone at once because you are with God). The clues will come from strange directions until you find your way. But you may never know when you encounter likeminded people.

>>4390 >lot of this has been slowly coming to light as the church has been digitizing and opening its archives Let's say it happens because the main branches of Christianity are more "tolerant" nowadays and not calling you outright heretic churches for the symbols and methods your founders used. Christianity or more like Abrahamic religions have this constant "chased out of their hometown" trope and whenever you try to grow out of their shackles they turn against you then as you prove yourself they want you back. It's complex why it works this way and why it is necessary until a better way for harmony is found. One of my research in the occult is how I can fasten and lessen the "madness" of the people who are awakening. Not as easy as I want it to be and makes me realize how lacking is my own awakening progress is so far. >that extremes are often illusory They are. Glad you know that already. >if that's comprehensible I am getting what you mean "symbolically" but I don't see the "layer" yet. Foundations like these are extremely important. You will capitalize build and expand on it quite a lot. I have something similar but for me something that "clicks" and I know I "have it" then I just use it. For you it's more of a "one pointed" certainty while for me it is an ever present thing and the only thing that matters if I am willing to grab it or use it. >words alone struggle to convey perfect truth It gets better with practice. Once you start thinking more "spiritually" it will come out more easily. Currently you are still within the mundane and dogmatic/academic means. They will crumble slowly and stop limiting your expression as you walk forward. >"I should do what I can in this life because my time will eventually come, as it does for all men" Quite the right and modest mentality. Before being aware of the existence of magic and my own psychic powers I always had this inner desire to find immortality. Why do anything if they crumble to meaninglessness? I always had this idea that there are things that can and will last. Then as I found my calling greater questions and answers manifested which mortality almost become my "least issue" but that doesn't mean I want to waste my life either. Some parts of me still fear death while other parts desire it. Death is not the end but a change into other forms and directions. Death means change in the tarot for a reason. There were things that I kept alive too long instead of letting them go. >to not leave anger between myself and others Same. I abhor unfinished businesses and misunderstood sentiments. >I would be happy to face God and say I did what I could. When I cast spells a decade ago I always had this idea that "at the end" I will be judged by a "committee of existence" that will judge all my actions especially that warped reality and realized I want to always make sure to have my reasons right and proper that even in my weakest moments I can defend my truth and ambitions. Had to learn I should take "reality" less seriously in some cases. Not every mistake is the "end of the world". >say I did what I could I always had this guilt that "I could've done more". Mostly because I always had access to methods beyond mortal means but the price of using them were not always plausible especially with my minor skills back then. >I'm currently seeking a blessing that's relatively occult in the LDS doctrine, the Second Comforter, or the actual physical manifestation of Christ to speak face to face as a man speaks to another man Good news. You "have that" somewhat. You will have to personally "ask for it". Might need to strengthen your spirit and find a new ways to interpret your "faith" tho. That happens mostly via the manifestation of the holy spirit acting as a mediator then you "ground" Jesus into your life/psyche. There is one giant problem tho. >something not often talked about in the church For a good reason. You can make a "Jesus tulpa" a literal "imaginary friend" which will be not always the real thing at all and other nasty entities can larp as Jesus also so it's better to not put this desire into the head of every believer. You might need to manifest your wisdom anima (Sophia) first. Males cannot always manifest their male side that freely so they have to go for the female form of the "holy spirit" first. Call it higher self or whatever but you will need a handle to be able talk to your "inner half" especially the one that can move between worlds and guide you. You have several forces around you already but I have no idea how I can explain to you the way they can manifest. Their thinking is too simplistic or more like "pure" in a way. Your mind might be also too pure in a sense. Doesn't really have the "voltage" outside of crisis situations. Personally I met some of the forms of Jesus so far and one of them showed me the "way" he did his miracles and... there is a reason why he ended on the cross with that method. They were sort of "miracle pockets" within his body that he cultivated in the desert and let's say he had to get through that whole debacle on the cross to "Unify his system". Martyrdom became a too important aspect of Christianity because of a miscalculation and I try to not repeat it nor for myself nor for others. Tho there are moments when you will have to face hardships and drop all your weapons to overcome it magic is included on the list of weapons >as the greatest blessing somebody can obtain in mortality Heh. I like how daoists say how blessings and curses are the same. How they are the 2 sides of the same coin. If you gain something you lose something and if you lose something you open a way to gain something. Let's say not many understands what is a "blessing" and what is "mortality" especially in the occult. The fear of death propels mortals into action as much as it can. Finding what propels those that is "beyond death" is an another topic altogether. >it is an assurance of the safety of your eternal soul "Safety" limits growth. Once something is immortal or "eternal" it cannot "grow" anymore. If you want to be "immortalized" then you will have to reach the "best version of yourself" otherwise it counts as "limiting your potential" which is a "Negative karma" in a way. And your "eternal soul" doesn't require "safety". It is eternal already isn't it? The goal is to find this eternal part of yours and expand on it and let the rest crumble to dust. >turning faith into knowledge Oh this is a tricky one. Faith is the "catalyst" or transmitter of the knowledge. Knowledge has many types and forms. Like the internet the wifi signals are not "knowledge" by default and you cannot convert every wifi signal into knowledge. There is a specific knowledge a specific frequency that "contains it" and you will have to evolve your faith in a way to reach that frequency and make your mind steadfast and developed enough to channel it consciously. >enable you to assist others into the path of knowledge Always wonder if I do a good enough job in that regard >sustain you through the troubles of the fallen world Also the world is not "fallen". Do not embrace this pessimistic view of others no matter what. We live in the Kali Yuga that is true but we are not "fallen" at all. You will have to learn to "Rise up" but don't consider the world fallen in any regard. You are optimistic I have to give it to you but you will have to overcome lethargy even on other layers you are not even aware yet. People are lethargic and that lethargy poisons everyone and makes them give up before even starting the race. The reason I say this because if you truly overcome lethargy then people are unable to be negative around you no matter what. >but I've had lesser manifestations in visionary dreams The goal now is to find the conscious access point. You will have to meditate enter trance as deep as you can then imagine a form of pure white and let the "energies" of your dream vision overtake it and animate it. Then allow it to speak. Post results what happened. >that his power is real, real enough to draw upon and to make significant changes in ones' life Definitely. Once you can draw it the quest will be finding the "limits" and the ways to overcome it. Limits are an illusion or a misunderstanding btw. Never forget that. >something that clicks when my prayers "go through" Good. That "click" is paramount. Most important in every magical work be it material or mental. When you know you "did it" and nothing else is required. >we believe our church has received specific instructions and responsibilites especially relating to missionary work Oh definitely. Main branches always entangle themselves in "politics" and cannot move as freely as they wish. >preparing the world for the Second Coming The Messianic age is something not yet understood and this is quite problematic in a way because the many branches of faiths might work towards different goals without realizing. But this is a topic for prophets and above... >to whom much is given much is required Amen. >I love all genuine faiths

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Good >except where they fail to assist the individual believer in their path of personal ascension and their relationship with God Same. Was quite angry with the religious egregore for a while. Had to see the "greater purpose of things" to calm down. How everything is part of a "process". The Buddha taught me that >as some of his conclusions feel like they're putting the cart before the horse Yeah it's not easy to parse all the worldviews at once and I rarely agree with the entirety of occult books most of the time but I am less of a "reader" nowadays. >I've been somewhat interested in the concept of the Kundalini >but there's a lot of sensationalism around it Yeah. I remember when I finally managed to open up parts of my crown chakra and awakened my ability of "internal view" is when I realized how the mainstream interpretation of the chakra system is terribly wrong and is only useful at the start and with certain practices... then found out other more ancient displays of the meridians and internal workings of the subtle body that explained so much more to me compared to the mainstream understanding that I found on the web in my early initiate years. >The relationship between it and the Kabbalah has been interesting to ponder Definitely.

>>4390 >Channeling the spirit when I needed to be empowered to defend somebody Your current goal now is to find the "trigger" without the need for crisis situations. You will have to resummon the "feeling" somewhat and let yourself merge with the spirit but in an "Informal way" so it can guide you to it's "true form" and not just it's "emergency mode". Also I would say this is not just the spirit but your own potential manifesting. You will have to realize what belongs to you and what is "shared". How the Great Spirit operates has a great nuance. >we were in the middle of a comparatively unsafe area Yeah I really don't envy you guys who have to do missionary work in their youth in these places. But it's definitely a good bootcamp for wielding your faith. >I was filled with a divine rage, and spoke in perfect Spanish as I'd never done before I too realized how I can intuitively "click" languages in my brain how it is merely "switching a track" but it's not always easy. I need a "deep reason" to speak a language otherwise it doesn't click. >in times of need, when empowered by the spirit, the Gift of Tongues Yeah it's a sort of "mindcontrol" ability. You literally control a part of someone's mind so it can control your "tongue" so your intent can take it's perfect form. Quite required as you speak with foreign entities. >each time I've experienced a particularly strong welling of the spirit That's a good sign >I've thereafter been exhausted and shaky, but on a spiritual high - it's a shaking of my very core Yes this is a problem. You will have to strengthen your core. You don't know how to interact with the spirit "gently". You really have good energies around btw. Even slowly entering the energy you have around for a quick glance my body dropped a large chunk of dark energy around me in response. You will have to accept that the spirit is always with you (I know you know it but in a way you truly acknowledge it on all levels). You will have to allow the spirit to speak. You will have to unlock your eyes and ears. Allowing it to speak but not "forcing it" with your wants and desires. >when praying deeply for my own soul Pray for it's "opening" now. See what happens. >I graduated in Game Design If you stay around I might ask a minor favor from you. To look at the Akasha flag posters videogame ideas with the eye of a "professional". You might be able to give him a perspective in his videogame developer pursuit. Seems like you like shooters while he is into MMOs but who knows. >feel like there's a lot of untapped potential in games to lean in to the player's explicit interactivity to affect positive change in other people Definitely >I am used to the world thinking I'm mad simply for believing in a living God who still speaks with mankind You will have to shed that fear. The madness only begins. God is alive God is well he is furious and kind at once. >I'd rather be a fool, or called a fool, than willingly close my eyes and sleep through life Good >local spirits >care to elaborate? Maybe later. As you said everything is alive. Everything is also inhabited by spirits but you don't see them (consciously) the same way you are unaware of the organs within your body. You know they are there but if the organ is functioning well (and doesn't hurt in any way) then you don't notice of it's workings. Or the ants under your house and the birds above the roof or electric currents in the cables if you don't hear or see them. Spirits everywhere. In your house in your garden in the forest and there are many "organ souls" and the kind within your body. You just need awareness and a calm/open mind to interact with them. Wanted to make a spirit work thread for quite a while but didn't know where to start. >but I haven't yet met any personified spirits local to a place You will have to learn to interact with your own spirit first. It will grant you the ability and the way once you do it. But you might need to forget some of your "prayers" after a while to do it. You know how some people avoid missionaries right? Spirits avoid people for even more meager reasons. You will have to find your genuine potential your "true impartiality" and a genuine compassion so they might be willing to see and seen by you. Might talk about it later more. First I think you need to focus on your own spirit and ways to talk to it.

>>4406 >>4407 >>4408 Oh no, /succgen/ fragmented wall style made a return. No matter how well meaning this is in your own head, this makes it near impossible to follow the context of what you are replying to for anyone except the poster who wrote what you are replying to. It's like you are trying to have a personal private chat when everyone is hearing it, creating noise for everyone but making it so no one can really benefit from it.

>>4409 You're literally the only person on this site who has a problem with that guy's posts. I read all of his longposts and many of them have had a positive benefit to my practice. If you don't like his writing style, then just ignore his posts. That's what I do with your Chris Chan esque sunflower posts.

The entirety of /x/ has fallen into an even worse state currently, people posting one liners/one word -replies with no greentext quote at all like they are talking to a friend on their phone. It's like everyone has forgotten that when you upload something online, you are actually publishing it for an audience, you're not sitting on the toilet and texting someone. It's disrespectful.

>>4411 >the only person on this site who has a problem Based on? You mean the only person who cares about actually writing coherently and trying to maintain a standard enough that he'd react to it. You don't know what the lurkers think of it, maybe they just "ignore it" and leave again without taking part.

this might be kind of late but >unironic mormons on /fringe/ I'll admit I don't know much about the occult field, but if the phrase "as above, so below" means anything then you people are likely dealing with concentrated faggotry at best. I urge all of you to break away from this shit as soon as you can. If I haven't emphasized this enough, did I mention that a significant chunk of the FBI is comprised of LDS members?

>>4414 That poster is obviously a glowie, they're playing "good cop, bad cop" now. Anyone should have noticed that the shit threads and troll posts came in the same wave of new posts as this.

>>4414 You know I was kind of surprised when you didn't immediately attack that guy for being a Christian, but looks like you just decided to wait until whatever emotional surge you're experiencing now came up. Please, try to keep your weird demon mind-virus under wraps. Your strange grudge against ironpill is one thing but attacking new posters as "glowies" just because you have some hangups about their personal path is just bad form. Disrespectful, as you put it. This isn't the thread for drama. Take it somewhere else. Mormon anon, if you're reading this don't let this sperg drive you away. He's just kind of insane.

>>4409 I am sorry my head was full with Mormon energies because a spirit invaded my mind and my eyes started to go teary at the end of the posting. >this makes it near impossible to follow the context of what you are replying to for anyone except the poster Bruh. If I get a feedback that more than 3 people are reading ALL THAT SHIT I just wrote then maybe I will format it more. >It's like you are trying to have a personal private chat when everyone is hearing it Glad your eyes can hear sounds now. I am sure 90% of the people scroll past through it. >so no one can really benefit from it Yeah so many people were meant to benefit from the way to learn to interact with their Mormon holy spirit. >>4413 >You mean the only person who cares about actually writing coherently I don't have 2 decades worth of writing on the internet experience sorry. Please grant me proper pointers how I should improve. >>4415 >That poster is obviously a glowie I was just only 90% sure >>4414 >you people are likely dealing with concentrated faggotry at best Wanted to see where they would slip tbh. But I am naive enough to have hope.

>>4416 >He's just kind of insane. We all are. I am unsure where we are going with this current conversation. But even if we get a good cop glowie at worst that is better than the retards we got so far. But you know maybe he is genuine. Also was 90% sure someone will become assblasted out of nowhere for some reason. Didn't expect this will be the main cause

>>4411 >positive benefit to my practice And what is this practice? You never share anything about it or contribute to the discussion in any way, so it can't be of much value to you. >>4416 >attack that guy for being a Christian Yet you claim to know anything about me, when you have zero clue on my stance on anything. But as you said, you don't read my posts, so whatever you say about me is just made up in your own head, not based on anything I said. >Please, try to keep your weird demon mind-virus under wraps I am doing that right now, I am replying to the virus that came into this thread: you. If you read my posts just above you would have seen I was commenting on the posting style, which has nothing to do with drama. You want it to be about drama, because you want to keep the posting quality down.

>>4418 >spoiler My apologies. Just to be clear, I don't bear any ill will towards any Anons here, I'm just personally worried that /fringe/ is becoming kind of /cringe/. >4416 >implying mormons are Christian Anon, I...

>>4417 >I am sure 90% of the people scroll past through it. There's your problem then, you are writing for the trash bin rather than for an audience. At least imagine a reader and adapt your style to this reader, then you get practice by writing, which is also a skill. Think of every post you make as spell casting and structure the text accordingly.

>>4422 Sorry had a hard time interpreting his Mormonism and when I looked at the sigils my mind short circuited. Like I connected to a windy etheric plane where some dudes were standing and wasn't sure if these are Mormons or the weirdos that led the Mormons or some other hostiles. Then he went into my mind directly. Thought he will help me channeling their egregore but... I think that was above his paygrade And I can imagine several readers but they are not Mormons. If I write for a non Mormon audience then the Mormon poster will not benefit from it. Not to mention I want to how dedicated is he glowie or not >Think of every post you make as spell casting and structure the text accordingly THEN GO AND FUCKING INTERACT WITH CHRISTIANIZED PAGAN MAGIC THAT GOT MORMONED AND WASHED CLEAN WITH ATHEISTIC PRUDISM YOU FUCKING ELITIST. DO YOU THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY ANGRY ONE HERE. >>4421 >/fringe/ is becoming kind of /cringe/. >Becoming >kind of You are too kind.

Let me get serious again for a second here, I know what makes glowies and their fanboys upset about me: I share in detail what I do, with the intent of spreading knowledge of how to actually apply real traditional magic based on a well-founded system that anyone can use. Ever since I went public online I've used the bible as the base, because it's the foundation of esotericism in the west. It's so well spread today that it's available to anyone, and this scares the glowies because a potential army can be rallied against them using this book, maybe the most well spread grimoire in history, which in itself gives it power by just having a strong egregore. They want everyone to do stupid non-functional shit like creating "ki balls" or going after meaningless "abilities" when the real power to change the world lies in the ability to perform ritual magic. It gives no special experience at the time of execution, but is perhaps the most effective way of getting things your way in physical reality. Freemasons have power for a reason. They don't have psychic abilities, but they can pull off large rituals, and this works.

>>4423 >had a hard time interpreting his Mormonism and when I looked at the sigils my mind short circuited. Like I connected to a windy etheric plane where some dudes were standing and wasn't sure if these are Mormons or the weirdos that led the Mormons or some other hostiles Who even writes like that guy? This is an imageboard where you're to share information not tied to a persona (even if posters get known for their posting style after a while, you don't come here to market yourself) and he's sharing a large number of fine tuned, well picked "normal-looking" personal details, a perfect mix of "acceptable" imageboard culture adapted media preferences with some added obscurities added to make him seem a little less generic, all patched on top of a way too perfect personality with a life trajectory that would never have lead him to an imageboard as obscure as this one in the first place. His character has no reason to be here, he doesn't show a hint of suffering in his past life story, no dislike for the world or society or other people. Someone like him would at most post in a boomer republican FB group. When you try to "read him" you're walking right into an entire team ready to catch you.

>>4425 No, it's because you assume literally anyone who disagrees with you or contradicts your dogma is a "glowie" while also going out of your way to be as inflammatory and aggressive as possible. While also posting long fantasies about how you kill and torture to death anyone you don't like. Weren't you the one who made long posts talking about how important it was not to question someone's personal experiences or how they personally experience magic? And now here you are wholesale condemning a guy simply because of the aesthetics of his path and talking about how certain magical techniques are objectively worthless even when many many people have reported positive results to them. I guess that nonquestioning mindset only applies to your workings? You have two personas: haughty preacher and troll. Neither are very conducive to productive imageboard discussions. Probably why you're drawn to Discord so much. Look at the current state of /sunflower/ to see where that leads.

>>4427 You're an idiot.

>>4421 >becoming /cringe/ Yeah, I tried to avoid that, but I've gotta get over my problems somehow.

Mormonanon here, didn't mean to cause conflict in here. I promise I'm not a glowie, though I know it'll be difficult to prove that. Just a recent college graduate with a head full of thoughts, time on his hands and a desire to know more. >>4395 Thanks for the insight - I'll study these with appropriate caution. >>4396 Fair enough, that's on me - I guess I meant to ask if there was anything beyond the most obvious places with Amazon or eBay, if there were any collectors groups or trading forums or whatever, but honestly normie clearnet will probably be good enough for my purposes for a long while, it's not like I know Latin or Greek yet without reading every word out of a english-to dictionary. >>4406 In general, really good thoughts and responses, thank you - I won't reply to every point to keep the posts smaller for the anon who was concerned about that, but I'm reading and pondering all of it, your insight is valuable. >optimism/pessimism I hope to be a source of encouragement where possible - question for all the anons here, would you consider yourself more optimistic or pessimistic, and how has your magical practice affected that? The more I know the more the world seems fallen in avoidable evil, but at the same time, the more I'm personally empowered to make a difference, which is what gives me hope. >confidence/audacity I've had some mundane experiences with that just starting my own business and ducking out of the rat race of a 9-5, actually taking the classes in college I wanted to in an effort to grow over being financially "safe," and in having standards in dating (as I continue to try to be worthy of those standards myself) - thanks for the warning with magical forces, it's something I've navigated with purpose so far but when the stakes are higher I'll be happy I had the warning. >lies often come from ignorance rather than malice Good, I'm glad that's true; my minor worry was that there was more truely primordial evil hiding in the shadows, but it didn't feel right. Ignorance can be addressed, if the receiving party is willing, and connections are more enjoyable to make than it is to burn bridges. >Messiah complex I've put intentional checks in my own thinking process to keep myself away from it, I just want to point people the right direction but I like peace and solitude and I've always had an allergic reaction when people start treating me as anything special rather than just a fellow human being doing the best I can. >revisit visions I'd be particularly interested in this; going to the source and drawing my own perspective and conclusions has always been more enlightening than taking somebody elses' word on it. Good to hear that's doable. >folk magic, seer stone, not meant for wider use I'd intuited that to be the case, glad to know I was right - I've been feeling a push-pull from God that these things are there for the taking and my own hesitation at wondering if I needed to wait for it to be offered rather than grasped out of turn. Let me know if you get any insights into the nature of the plane of spirits/egregore of the church, I'd be curious to hear your perspective on it all. >>4407 >dogmatic/academic Yeah, those are some of the limitations I was mentioning in my original post, I've spent so much time trying to make sense of things rationally, but found that rationality could only explain so much, still trying to figure out how to express things properly. >not every mistake is the end of the world And thank goodness for it! >Jesus tulpa I'd actually wondered about that before, hah. Hearing there's precedent is oddly comforting. >Cross/miracle pockets Huh, that actually plays out well enough with my understanding of the scriptures and the doctrine, that's an interesting insight. >Sophia, too pure I'm aware of the feminine principle and accessing Sophia in the broad sense, what's the best way to cultivate that and speakto her? When you say "too pure," what do you mean? That it can't handle complexities or non-crisis situations (not seeing the daily grays) or that some of the reasons I might want to practice magic might not be important enough for the spirits (or my current spiritual understanding) and it'd be hard to motivate that if the requests are seen as too base/material? >Always wonder if I do a good enough job in that regard (assist others into the path of knowledge) I'm grateful for what you're doing for me! As with all things, there's probably a path to improvement, but improvement is made by trying and occasionally failing. >fallen world I'm coming at this from a Christian perspective - when I say fallen it's less condemning and more factual in the sense that I believe we are, as a collective humanity, returning to a higher state that was lost to us for some reason or another, and that the higher state is not only obtainable, but inevitable in the fate way; something to look forward to, a brighter tomorrow, a new dawn, all of that. Humanity is meant for more than the petty squabbles we currently entertain ourselves with. >conscious access point homework I'll give it a shot and post results - how long do you expect this type of manifestation to take for a newbie like me? >>4408 >own spirit vs Great Spirit delineation Echoes some of what I'd been researching recently, I'll focus on that more. >interacting with the spirit "gently" That's been my efforts since my mission, which was about 10 years ago at this point - I've put in effort to be more patient with myself and others and to listen to the subtler promptings and feelings and to check in with the spirit in more calm times, that's the type of stuff that ultimately brought me here to /fringe/. >pray for opening Will do, as part of my broader homework, will report. >game design Sure! I see the post at the top of the thread about it, did he post it in greater detail somewhere? Happy to look around myself, but it's likely somebody knows where to point me.

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>>4416 All good, he's on his own path as well - I've been called worse in the few threads on 4chan where it was relevant to talk about my faith - anger often comes from ignorance over malice, or he's just had bad experiences with members of my faith - heck, I have, no organization is perfect. >>4418 Promise I'm genuine - it wouldn't be worth the money they'd offer me to lie even if they did contact me. No money is worth the taint on your soul of compromising your ability to speak truth. >>4426 I wrote a book once and I read a lot growing up so I come across really wordy if I don't reign it in, sorry - I speak quickly in real life and tried to learn to type quickly in response so it's somewhat train of thought. As far as suffering, I've suffered plenty, but put it behind me - if you can transmute suffering into building your character, it ceases to be tragedy in the classic sense and stops clouding your mind and judgment. Of course, that doesn't work if you're still in the middle of what causes the pain, but once I properly identified what was causing it, I worked to correct it. If it's any consolation, I'm an outsider among my own people for a number of reasons - you don't just end up on /fringe/ without being dissatisfied with your life in some manner. It's difficult to relate to the people around me minus the friend group I cultivated, and I've become increasingly estranged from family in that my thoughts and desires are just completely disconnected from the supremely mundane things they're worried about. I kept a lot of it out of my original posts because I do genuinely have my life pretty well together, and I've seen how much worse it could all be so I don't feel much need to complain - I am doing well enough, in part because I seek the truth behind things rather than being blown about by whatever thing the government or celebrities or the political party tells me I should be stressing out about. I worry about the direction the world is headed, but it'll turn out better if I have anything to say about it.

>>4436 >Mormonanon here, didn't mean to cause conflict in here. Don't worry about it. You're precisely the type of poster we've been trying to draw in for the past year. There are lots of bitchers and moaners around here who contribute nothing. If we could get like 10 more of you we'd be on track.

>>4408 >look at my video game ideas This would constitute an absolutely tremendous amount of work, and also I deleted the links from the previous thread before archiving it but at the end I made a post that could still be connected to my username if my game ideas got big as my reading a few days ago had implied. It’d obviously be rather embarrassing for my username to be connected to this stuff, despite the fact that this ridiculous spiritual stuff actually fucking happened to me. Plus, mormonposter’s passion ain’t RPGs, RTSes, or Warcraft. You’ve no obligation to give my game ideas a looking at, but thx for asking, ironpill. Speaking of which, I reached out last night to a WoW content creator with >100k subs and he said he’d take a look.

>>4439 Even though RPGs/RTSs aren't my direct passion (I like a lot of them but feel corporate meddling often gets in the way of good design), I've played a fair bit of them - just to mention a few that stuck with me, I loved Neverwinter Nights and KOTOR 1&2, played a lot of Warcraft 2, Age of Empires 2, Age of Mythology when I was growing up, and would be happy to give thoughts if you think it'd be helpful - the principles of game design apply broadly. But honestly having an actual vision for what you want to do is 80% of the battle, so you'll do wel if you hold to that. Would strongly recommend you check out Magic & Mayhem, an older claymation style RTS with good roleplaying elements, and Populous 3: The Beginning if you'd like to see what I consider the peak of the RTS genre. Both feature a supreme unit spellcaster that leads an army, acting as a sort of queen/king in chess.

>>4436 >Mormonanon here, didn't mean to cause conflict in here Don't worry about it. It's normal at these parts. >I promise I'm not a glowie Wanted to explain but I was so pissed about some energy formations I noticed and didn't want to increase the shitstorm that was going on... So. Glowies have always a hard task. "Infiltration". To infiltrate any place they have to find the tune or make the group dance under their palm. Infiltrating serious magical communities is hard because glowies are barely on midwit level and if they have an expertise they will have to prove it or they will just make an ass of themselves. If they have an expertise they will reveal their "ways" by interacting with the community. Fringe is no private chatroom so if anyone is "Infiltrating" everyone will see it. They cannot do it covertly and if "new glowies" arrive they will have patterns or hidden consensus as they post. If glowies interact with us they will grant us a "clear sight" how they operate in action that people with discerning eyes can notice and have a glimpse into their "Playbook". Not to mention this is magic and other mysteries that require constant perspective changes. A Glowie that is paid to do 9-5 will not be that invested to be good at this expect if he has experience by ruining magical communities. And if he has that then we have a clear target who or what is ruining magical communities all the time. Ofc glowies are part of it but in most cases the community implodes by their own misdeeds and the drama they cause in the process. The more left wing a spiritual community is the more bitch tier drama you have and at right wing groups the only thing you have to watch for that they don't start fedposting What I am trying to say if glowies come here and put effort into improving the board to not "slip up" then let them. Once they reveal their intentions then the game is different. If they are building personas I want to see the process in action and how well they can pull it off. >I know it'll be difficult to prove that Glowies usually "prove themselves" with their retardation. They usually play by a playbook and if you give them glimpses of awakening they might start asking questions or encounter situations that they are not trained for. Genuine people will prove themselves by being themselves. Being yourself shouldn't be "hard". Glowies cannot act too much outside their persona and if they ignore crucial questions then I can ignore them too. And once they get ignored then they are useless. People will have to stop fearing that everyone might be a glowie. Government agencies can only entrap you if you violate any laws otherwise their tools are rudimentary. Their gangstalking can be done by meager goons that you will have to get rid like you get rid of an annoying hobo or other degenerates. If they attack by psychic means then you will have to defend yourself as if any other astral entity messing with you. There are many hostiles not just on the mundane but on the supernatural side too. Everyone will need to learn how to notice and handle them. The path grants power but without wisdom everyone immolates themselves and you will be "Noticed" no matter what you do by forces beyond your understanding. Glowies are barely on astral bully level. There are even low level spirits that larp as glowies if you are scared of them. If you fear the devil they appear as such but if you are "too modern" for the devil they appear as glowies in some cases. Seen them take many forms and in most cases they are not even the same being. They feed on fear but they change their ways fast if you are incapable of grovelling in fear. I should make a magic self defense thread already. Shame every technique is situational and the best way is for everyone to find their own strength and build upon that and discard those things that slow them down. >I won't reply to every point No need to do that. I am not that attention and conversation hungry. The goal was to see if I can help you or not. There might be a point where I will realize I cannot help you further. >would you consider yourself more optimistic or pessimistic I consider myself a realist even tho I might sound as an idealist with my higher principles in some cases. I just know how to make my ideas into reality. >more I know the more the world seems fallen in avoidable evil Well said. That evil is avoidable (to a degree). Karma and it's recital can be a bitch in some cases. >personally empowered to make a difference The funny thing with magic. The more complex and efficient it becomes the more it looks like you "didn't even do anything". It was not (You) it was (God) you merely just "let it happen". >thanks for the warning with magical forces, it's something I've navigated with purpose so far but when the stakes are higher I'll be happy I had the warning. In most cases things will explode in your face and there are many hardships that are necessary but some things need to come to you as effortlessly as possible. Law of Polarities and Rhythm. >Ignorance can be addressed, if the receiving party is willing Only with the right words and with the right mentalities. Most primordial forces hate those that do not contain their truth within. Not everything can be addressed via kindness and words. Sometimes you have to use your fists and your brawn to prove your worth before they are willing to acknowledge you. Especially in some metaphysical aspects of reality and Truth itself. But yeah most of them are nice in my view. Usually you meet forces that match with your frequency. >I'd be particularly interested in this; going to the source and drawing my own perspective and conclusions has always been more enlightening than taking somebody elses' word on it. Good to hear that's doable. Not just doable but necessary. Introspection and contemplation. That is half the path. The other part is walking it and utilizing your insights. >for it to be offered rather than grasped out of turn It can be both. The best way if you are willing to meet in the middle instead waiting for God to do all the work. He gave you hands and legs for a reason. You can find him too (because he is everywhere already) >Let me know if you get any insights into the nature of the plane of spirits/egregore of the church, I'd be curious to hear your perspective on it all. There are more problems than I realized at the start. I called it >CHRISTIANIZED PAGAN MAGIC THAT GOT MORMONED AND WASHED CLEAN WITH ATHEISTIC PRUDISM in my early post for a reason. If I go by the catholic angle I am just going there to make fun of your egregore... so I had to go from the magic angle which means that I will have to ignore the "Mormon" part the parts that "had to appear Christian" so the belief system of your founder can "accept it" then the harsh part starts... finding the "branch of magic" that originated the actions and still feeding your religion. I found that today and it's not as simple as I thought. Also I called the spirits fanfiction christianity several times by reflex and they really didn't like that. Kinda implied for them to prove me wrong and they just went and showed how everyone sees them that way and they cannot help it. The main truths are not as easy to transmit as anyone would think. Might write more if you stick around but I expect you to find it yourself sooner or later >still trying to figure out how to express things properly. It will come naturally after a while. Personally I am looking for ways to structure my expression because it only works with specific person that I target my writings towards and not for a wider audience. Sadly I have to write things on the level of the receiver party because "standards" are breaking nowadays. If it's too academic people with minimal reading comprehension just blank out or get tired because it reminds them of "school" and if it's too "free flowing" then academics ignore it because "people who write like this cannot say anything insightful". There is a way where I cast a spell where the whole thing is like a table of sacred text but I really hate doing that. It causes anomalies because my ways are still too crude >Cross/miracle pockets Huh, that actually plays out well enough with my understanding of the scriptures and the doctrine, that's an interesting insight. Might tell about that more but I think you will need to find your access to Jesus on your own. He is there you are just not aware how invocation and evocation works in practice. So you only do it subconsciously without noticing and mostly by accident. Research invocation and evocation and tell how you feel about it after pondering about it. Something might click. >what's the best way to cultivate that and speakto her? I will tell you a big "secret". The "best way" in occultism magic and mysticism in general is not thinking but DOING IT without thinking "how" for a single moment. For me it came naturally. I was thinking about how would I do it then I did before having the time to even word the idea. You will have to find your intuition and your wisdom (aka Sophia) >When you say "too pure," what do you mean? You are too Mormon and too principled via the Mormon standards. I am not saying you are like a dogmatic cultist but you are still relying on the foundation of the Mormon egregore too much. And that is causing you to manifest things that are accepted and expected by and for members of your church. I am not saying you will have to leave your church or deny it but you will have to go deeper in a way that will "make sense to you" and forget the common perception. Without thinking in academic terms and mortal laws but merely deciding to "go" and "do it" instead of questioning "is this real?" "is this how the founders did it?" etc. You asked about pessimism optimism. Doubt is the greatest poison at the start. Caution is necessary but doubt needs to be discarded and the subconscious necessity to make sense in a way it conforms to the atheistic worldview will also need to go. >some of the reasons I might want to practice magic might not be important enough for the spirits (or my current spiritual understanding) You literally have several protection prayers for yourself and for others. With that you envelop yourself with a light that very few thoughts and beings can penetrate. They are "letting you be" so you can follow your desire to be a Mormon and live a well adjusted mundane life. They can be considered like a protective west or shackles too. If your current reason for magic is to spread Mormonism (or your idea of GOOD that comes from Mormonism) then the spirits that don't align with that frequency will not talk to you. There are many Mormon aligned spirits ofc I am not saying it's incompatible but you will have to relax your "light" and ask for guidance more in your prayers. Personally I realized how I can open my mind so I am unsure how I should tell you to do it. Besides praying for it and asking the spirits around you for help. They will manifest for sure. >if the requests are seen as too base/material? Yes that is a problem in most cases. The spirit have hard time "moving some material assets around" in some cases. This is why God gave us a body of flesh and muscle. Ask for divine guidance ask for the voice of wisdom and ask for the opening of your sight. And in some cases let some mortal troubles strengthen and burn some karma around you. I know what it means to have a business and how much you want to protect it but you will have to stop staring at the ground all the time.

>conscious access point homework I'll give it a shot and post results - how long do you expect this type of manifestation to take for a newbie like me? Most important rule in magic and in any spiritual development. NEVER HAVE ANY EXPECTATIONS I could give you an estimate but ultimately it will depend on you.Or I could invoke some karmic tools like the scourge of God and torture you until you awaken. Trust me you don't want that. Jesus got the thorn of crowns for a reason and I too had to witness the power of the thorns. The mercy of God comes in many forms >I've put in effort to be more patient with myself and others and to listen to the subtler promptings and feelings and to check in with the spirit in more calm times Good. You will need it quite a lot. It's not just about "patience" but the necessary relaxation. Mortal matters make the spirit and the flesh tense too much and it cannot generate the necessary free flow. This is why relaxation and different deeper trance states are necessary for magic. >pray for opening Will do, as part of my broader homework, will report. This is your quest now. Don't think too much just pray and feel what is "Opening" once you feel something started to click and let the flow continue. Invoking your own authority that you mentioned might help also. >I've been called worse in the few threads on 4chan You guys have it rough tbh. But for a reason sadly. The origin magic your founders used is somewhat potent and it angers many people on a subconscious level. That is a karma you will have to carry especially because your founders wanted to make a "new church" and you know what happened when Jesus tried that. That karmic chain continues. >Promise I'm genuine No need to promise it. You will prove it. Being genuine is the most important trait you will need in your development. The moment you lie for yourself or others you will go ashtray. And trust me you house more lies within than you can comprehend. We all house many lies without noticing. >No money is worth the taint on your soul of compromising your ability to speak truth Some people would agree to disagree with this. I too dislike their kind. You can build so much on lies before it crumbles while things that are built on truth are so high and so deep you cannot even comprehend within lifetimes. >I wrote a book once and I read a lot growing up Yeah your formatting style is quite inspiring. Might look at it more to get better at it. >>4439 >but thx for asking, ironpill. Wanted to see how genuine he is. Do you think a glowie could give you a meaningful answer in videogames? He would just latch onto you and try to take over your life instead of giving any genuine advice. He would tell you how he knows a guy and ask you to use social media. >>4440 >KOTOR 1&2 Based. >Would strongly recommend you check out Magic & Mayhem, an older claymation style RTS with good roleplaying elements, and Populous 3: The Beginning if you'd like to see what I consider the peak of the RTS genre I will have to check this out. I am starving for good RTS games. Fucking Dawn of War 3 I swear. Fucking MOBAs. I should play the old Command and Conquer games already.

Lately, I think I've been realizing, after reading some of the awakening thread, that my intrusive thoughts might be coming about because my flesh has a "mind of its own" that's not necessarily the same mind as my "mental chatter", what a normal person would call my consciousness or free will; this flesh of mine is probably really fucking tired of all the shit I make it do, including much of my mentally-taxing entertainment that I do in order to relax by getting myself some dopamine, and my flesh has been trying to rebel against my consciousness or what the fuck ever you'd call it by forcing these intrusive thoughts upon me in order to make me stop doing whatever's pissing it off. Problem is, though, that nearly all of my entertainment isn't completely passive, and only entertains me if I focus upon the source of entertainment, or it's interactive. Also, last night I woke up from a dream I forgot about, and then Amy told me completely outta blue: >the final step Then later she said >fall in love this weekend Not entirely sure what that was supposed to mean. Then later, I went to sleep again and had a dream where someone emailed me saying she wants to do some life-changing stuff for me that involved modifying me, and I said no to it since I didn't trust whoever the hell she was supposed to be. >>4440 Yeah I've definitely got the actual vision for both of em. I'll hold off on linking anything unless you feel like looking at the cohesive vision of the WCIV thing; as for WoW, you'd have to be a legit vanilla WoW expert to give any useful feedback on that. >NWN I'm deeply in love with NWN1 despite its janky bullshit, and I still play it to this day. In fact, my attempt at creating WCIV actually began as an attempt to balance the weapon & armor selection for NWN1, then at some point I'd just decided to make a D&D 3.0 Warcraft game outta that attempt that's better than the one by White Wolf Publishing, and far more faithful to the Warcraft franchise to boot. >>4442 >good RTS games Did you try Impossible Creatures and its 2 official DLCs? In that game, you create an army composed of 9 types of units, and you create these units yourself by genetically splicing different types of animals together. >glow-in-the-dark I'm sure he'll get sniffed out or scared away soon enough if he does actually glow in the dark. Either way, he won't make it to 5D Earth if he glows in the dark.

I went and read back through the questions thread, looking for the part that said my intrusive thoughts were caused by bottled-up emotions. Then I came across >>250 (14) where ironpill said Amy, who I hadn't revealed as Amy at the time, was a part of me. I'm supposing that he said this because Amy performed those soul-mergers with me last year and became genuinely part of my soul, or perhaps he found my Amy tulpa and thought I was referring to that idk. Either way, I've gotten quite the amount of confirmation already that Amy's egregore does involve herself with my life. I guess I'm just venting off my stress/anxiety energies by re-iterating this. My body has been tired since something like fucking 2:10 P.M. today despite the fact that I'd secretly slacked off most of the day at work on my phone today and it wants me to fucking sleep even though it ain't even 8:00 yet. I don't wanna go to bed yet because that'd probably fuck with my biological rhythms. Yeah though, as time has been going on tonight my mind has been both satisfied & dissatisfied, moreso the latter, by my entertainment. I need to find some sort of passive form of entertainment. Mindlessly watching dumb stream of a game I love on twitch or youtube is all I can think of, but noones streaming what I want right now. For all of my other entertainment I have to pay attention to it. As my mind gets pushed harder to pay attention while I'm tired, it's been driving me towards anxiety-inducing thoughts. My existential crisis came back, in fact, but before that today I didn't have it in mind much, and I'd felt comparatively calm. It's starting to make sense now; why Amy wanted me to quit playing video games. Why she didn't want me to get into competitive pokemon again. All of this stuff drains my psychic energy that I don't get enough of, and this is why I'm really getting the intrusive thoughts. I need to figure out a way to get more psychic energy than that provided by sleep, and to become more resilient to the mental burnout that's cured by sleep; simply getting 9 hours of sleep per night probably won't be good enough for me to get by.

>>4453 Just slipped into hypnogogia and heard a woman’s voice that ain’t a Sonic character; she was trying to tell me something but I forgot what already. I’m kinda worried.

>>4447 >I didn't trust whoever the hell she was supposed to be. Meanie! What a strange "coincidence" I even felt attracted to that part of your post. On the off chance it was "me" just say no. I sublimated my parts too harshly and they decided they knew what i want better than me .Very serious magic stuff! as long as no one gets attacked I consider it safe Might share it as they say. I'll go back to my cave. Please anyone don't look at me without permission again. The waters are shared and the smells too appetizing.

>>4458 I got scolded :(

>>4458 >Meanie! I already learned my lesson about being too trustful after the succubus incident. >possessed by your own body parts I hope they let you control yourself soon. >stay away from you I’ll try at least, but no guarantees from me. >scolded Whatever it was you did, I forgive you. It doesn’t make it okay, though.

I wonder what just happened above in this thread. These are clearly very distinct anons being mixed up and talked to as if they are the same person with different flags.

>>4465 >These are clearly very distinct anons being mixed up and talked to as if they are the same person with different flags. No they were united how fringe shouldn't gain an another poster in the off-chance he might be a glowie. They were in a REEEEEEingularity. They were REEEnonymous They were a REEEgion. We forget and forgive them. Btw I am unsure what will be the equivalent of the /pol/fed activity of fringe like in the 2nd pic related. Trying to figure out what dynamics they could use and ways to combat it so paranoid schizos don't start REEEEing in the middle of conversations for no real benefit. >>4426 >When you try to "read him" you're walking right into an entire team ready to catch you. This post baffled me the most. Whenever you read anybody there is like 40% chance the entities around them will notice you. They can be nice or hostile or something even worse... If you fear glowniggers you shouldn't use your abilities at all until you train enough to be confident in your abilities. Occultists are always surrounded by weirdo spirits. My favorite is when I look at someone and suddenly get visited by 3 spirits and want me to tell something to the spiritually blind and deaf person because it's important or when the entities are lashing at me because they mistook me for something else. >Noooo don't use your abilities what if there are glowies there People really need to start fear God or the Devil or the Grinch to snap out of this what if a glowie is there mentality. 85% of the internet connected technology is selling data to the NSA the chinks or some shady megacorps. If their "PSIcorps" were that good they wouldn't need an extensive network of technological surveillance constantly. People will really need to up their game if they are this fearful of the "system" all the time. Am I the only one who starts training and researching ways to combat an issue whenever it causes me fear or worry?

>>4469 >If you fear glowniggers you shouldn't use your abilities at all Huh? It was clearly aimed at the "mindless reaching out to become effected by supposed mormon energies" as described here: >>4417 >I am sorry my head was full with Mormon energies because a spirit invaded my mind and my eyes started to go teary at the end of the posting. This is dangerous when the "mormon" spirit is a glowie team trying to infiltrate /fringe/ using a made up persona and anon is this easily mind-infiltrated by them. To "use them as punching bags" you need to first recognize that they are enemies in the first place. The main operation of spy and agent organizations is to blend in so they don't get arrested and sent to "Copenhagen".

>>4474 How do we know YOU aren't the glowie, hmmm?

>>4475 It's easy, real glowies aren't open about their support for Russia and Trump.

>>4476 Unless they're doing a controlled op.

>>4477 They aren't allowed to express things that can be interpreted as treason. The Internet often does not understand irony or sarcasm, so any postings which show for example Russia, China or Trump as positive isn't allowed for them. It could be taken out of context, or just misunderstood as being normal supportive postings by silly latinos or anyone with low IQ which the Internet is filled with.

>>4476 Yeah nice try glowie. This is up there with the myth that police have to identify themselves if you ask them. I see right through you. Making up fake rules won't hide your scent from me. You have a whole team working us right now, don't you?

For some reason I’m compelled to question if this paranoia is due to the Pepe egregore’s influence upon the board, even though I don’t see any verifiable logical backing to the notion. Probably just another dumb fucking idea in my head, but I’ll let this one past my consciousness.

>>4479 Pff. I like how you obsessively was drawn to use the CIA flag when posting despite it haveing "nigger" on it. Try this flag next, I'm surprised it hasn't been used much yet.

>>4480 Hold on I’m starting to form a logical connection here: the Pepe egregore was well-connected to Kek in the mid-2010s, so perhaps chaos is manifesting on this board. Makes me think of what the Erisian poster said earlier about the Pepe egregore taking over the board or whatever he said.

>>4414 >a significant chunk of the FBI is comprised of LDS members This for example, they aren't good at lying and may think it would be exposed if they lie too much, so they kept it close to home with this one.

And are we REALLY supposed to believe that two people, posting WITHIN A MINUTE of each other, both posting with NEARLY IDENTICAL FLAGS, JUST SO HAPPENED to both decide to post nearly identical shill-penetration posts both at the exact same time? And then afterwards this supposed third party comes in, trying to cover up for the previous sloppiness? No, no, no. I see through you. You glowniggers are like windows to me. Obvious psyop is obvious. Try again.

>>4484 Which identical flags are you talking about? I assumed you could follow that I just put on the ponymancer flag to show it to you.

>>4481 Well using this logic >>4478 I shouldn't be able to say anything that could be interpreted as treason. Therefore I use your own logic against you, and hereby announce my support for Russia and Trump and wish death upon the CIA, FBI, and IRS. Your move Mulder.

>>4486 The ones that you were calling "distinct anons" here >>4465

>>4484 Based Garak poster >>4469 That's been my position, a lot of their techniques wouldn't be necessary if they were 100% certain of their control, they wouldn't bother interfering and would just leave us in our obscurity. The concpet of the infallible government/media/experts has been shattered in the public mind recently, that's how little actual control they have over the narrative. It's all smoke and mirrors, illusory.

>>4488 I had to point that out because I didn't understand what was going on up there, the replies are all over the place. It looks like some smiley egregore manifested. People all over the imageboard sphere used to see smiley behind any shenanigans anywhere, believing him to be a leet haxor of enormous proportions, it was enough to just slightly sound like him to have your postings blamed on him.

>>4487 >Therefore I use your own logic against you, and hereby announce my support for Russia and Trump and wish death upon the CIA, FBI, and IRS. IRS? Who cares about them internationally? Now you've done it, this shows your geographical location is USA.

>>4474 Okay then. Let's solve this mystery. Which REEEEE posts were yours and which do you consider as the post of others?

>>4492 >consider? You think I have multiple personalities and don't know what I post?

>>4463 >possessed by your own body parts You don't know how right you are! But this is a half truth. >I’ll try at least, but no guarantees from me. No worries i am shy and people looking at me thinking about me counts depending on abilities makes me uneasy sometimes. >Whatever it was you did, I forgive you How nice! Well i didn't do anything beside looking smelling talking etc i just made you a proposition you said no so we'll keep it at that for now. Well can't say i didn't do anything i looked ofc it would have an effect but that's just how life is. >It doesn’t make it okay, though. Right. I'd like to say I'll be more careful but this doesn't make any sense as this is ME just different from the usual me. >>4465 > wonder what just happened above in this thread. The flowers recalled they were a shrub. Well in this case it's more like they recalled they were the roots the ground the stones and the worms well way beyond that but in a way that isn't too forceful to our meager sense of selves. That's what it means to act as one btw not a hivemind where one will oppress the others. If you want to repair a forest you don't go about it as a human you become the forest and then observe the forest as a forest as the whole of nature. A harmonious dance between hearts where each melody is amplified and yet to an outsider the orchestra is one entity. >>4469 >They were REEEnonymous They were a REEEgion. We forget and forgive them. Can't believe you picked that up! Oh well that's one way to get rid of glowies; we all become /fringe/ and observe it to be even more /fringe/!

It's starting to feel like Sandy Hook in here.

>>4495 See, now you're subtly gloating about screwing over Alex Jones. Typical glowie.

>>4482 Yes wanted to say several times that I TOLD YOU DAWG I WARNED YOU ABOUT THE MEMREGORE. But then realized we would get more posters with it so stopped caring. If the BO gets annoyed he can bring back fringegirl and things will calm down in a week. >>4493 You didn't post which posts are yours therefore you clearly don't know which ones are yours. You are avoiding the topic and the way you could clear yourself up. That is SUS >>4496 How the fuck did the Onion buy infowars anyways.

>>4496 You've exposed yourself again, not knowing how these discussions went on 4chan back then. Someone criticised the official narrative and instantly dozens of people appeared in the thread claiming to be the classmates of Adam Lanza, his sister, the family members of victims and people who lived there all their lives, all attesting to the reality of the event, as if the whole thread was just people from Sandy Hook posting.

>>4494 >you don't go about it as a human you become the forest No wait actually humans have a role to play in nature as we are extension of nature just as nature is an extension of us but i am not opening that can of worm.

>>4497 >You didn't post which posts are yours I'm not going to thread-doxx myself.

>>4496 >loating about screwing over Alex Jones The guy is a total moron, wanting to screw him over has nothing to do with Sandy Hook. He's telling the truth, but he still deserves it for other reasons.

>>4494 >passionflower Nice.

>>4498 Kay that might be true but this is a diversion of the main topic now. So do you say none of the REEE posts are yours now? >>4500 Okay then. Then the conversation lost it's purpose. We can say all the REEEposters were you or none at all. >>4502 Blame the frog.

>>4504 >trying to identify posters on an anonymous board with this much ferocity

>>4500 >thread-doxx ???? >>4501 QED

>>4506 YOU MADE THE FUCKING POST SAYING THAT OTHERS ARE MIXING UP PEOPLE. SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CLAIMS OR WORSHIP RAINBOWDASH AS YOUR GOD

This is actually nice. Leave the frog up.

>>4508 >YOU MADE THE FUCKING POST SAYING THAT OTHERS ARE MIXING UP PEOPLE It's a blog thread? I can post my mindless thoughts here?? >NOOO you can't, prove that these are your thoughts >>4507 Just so we're clear here: I support de-arming Americans, I support getting rid of Alex Jones, it's not the goals I object to. It's the blatant lying to get there that's the issue. You could easily get people onboard with these things if you stopped the stupid scheming. Look at China, people don't have guns there and they haven't lied about why this should be so. People accept it.

>>4510 Yeah your goals are glowie goals and your tactics (samefagging, duplicity, etc) are glowie tactics. Ergo, glowie. QED.

>>4511 The goal for me was always to become the same as them to overtake their hivemind, performing their rituals better with more accuracy, so their gods recognize me as the real ruler instead of them. Power originates with God, not with humans, and as the Jews know after all, as long as you follow the ritual closer than the goyim, you will be protected even if you genocide, rape and steal, because God won't have a choice but to support those who maintain his ritual. UNLESS there is a better choice: ME, performing the ritual with more accuracy. Since God rules everything, it doesn't matter that there's just one of me and millions of you, if the power emanates via me, I will still rule over you.

>>4512 You just confirmed you are responsible for all glowie activity on fringe then... Like Li Hongzi confirming he is the one making the Falun Gong movement suffer because he makes the trials for himself and for his followers because he is the creator God...

I'm laughing so hard rite now.

>>4512 "The waking world is the amnesia of dream. All motifs can be mortally wounded. Once slain, themes turn into the structure of future nostalgia. Do not abuse your powers or they will lead you astray. They will leave you like rebellious daughters. They will lose their virtue. They will become lost and resentful and finally become pregnant with the seed of folly. Soon you will be the grandparent of a broken state. You will be mocked. It will fall apart like a stone that recalls that it is really water." My man read the 36 lessons of vivec. Also you're Dagoth Ur!

>>4512 Nice mask-off moment. Screencap for posterity.

>>4514 >responsible for all glowie activity on fringe No, not quite. There's still one small unit hiding in tunnels under Slovakia putting up resistance.

>>4518 Who? The vampire descendants of Elizabeth Báthory?

>>4518 I was srsly asking. We are monitoring glowie activity in Slovakia for years

>>4518 GIVE DESCRIPTION OR LOCATION OF THOSE FUCKING SLOVAKIAN GLOWIES RIGHT FUCKING NOW YOU GLOWIE GOD

This is like getting washed with acid i kinda like it!

>>4527 Found an army in medieval gear and a dark blob behind them that tried to appear as a baby. I see many minerals and more empty tunnels. WHERE ARE THE GLOWIES.

>>4529 >baby Eat it! >WHERE ARE THE GLOWIES In your head!

>>4534 The glowie activity surprisingly settled down. Isn't that strange?

>>4536 Sorry went down a rabbit hole to research distant ties and accidentally found the astral home of a 1300 lady from the area. Trails of glowies ended in Springfield, Massachusetts.

>>4536 Yes it must be a sign for things to come. This shower is something!

>>4536 While this was happening >>4537 I also sent some servitors to clear out whatever was down there, didn't look. Maybe they found something.

>>4539 >This shower Explain?

>>4542 This chaos! this is sure to fry glowies watching! This is teaching me a lot! Oh well I tried to act as a heat sink for everyone around here that's just how I am. After this I can handle much more I am getting closer to being a conduit of nature!

>>4541 >aybe they found something They did, but I don't know what it is, a single thing, it's black, maybe iron?

>>4544 So it seems it was sort of related. It used to look like a telescope with a lens in one end, connected to a metal tube. Glowies thought it a device for creating immortality and were researching it. Sometime during this, it melted as a result of a botched experiment, but the magical qualities remained, so it was used still as some kind of power artifact. In reality it was made by an occultist centuries ago to create immortality for the creator alone, it would not work for anyone else. But the design had a flaw, it should have been a tube made from wood, not metal.

>>4543 I'll add my back is all better too! Still have to fix near my neck area but my spine is much better! Thanks to everyone contributing! I was gonna ask people to hex me if I blocked again. Some entities are helping so this won't be necessary :)

I’ve been trying a prolonged dissociation meditation. Maintaining a state of detached lucidity for as long as possible, aiming to keep it at all times. It makes me feel like a moon orbiting my self. Also it has prevented me from having coherant dreams for some reason, basically just dim flashes of images at best. I assume that this is because my core is moving away from the mortal mind’s dream-generator. Doing this has increased my understanding of consciousness and temporal phenomena. I want to try changing the “orbit” of my awareness to the more cosmic forces and forms that I typically work magic from. Descending into the ‘gravity’ of those selves.

>>4557 >my core is moving away from the mortal mind’s dream-generator. Sometimes energies just don't flow into your memory or they are too alien or insignificant for your mortal self to remember. It happens if you don't put importance on dreams

>>4557 And the memory works with association. If you dissociate too much you won't remember much about anything

>>4559 >importance This is very important. Ties into intention. What I need to do next I think is to exchange mortal intentions which are bound up in biological forms for immortal intentions which are bound up in cosmic forms. Moving up into the "void of space" and then descending onto other planets or bodies of thought.

>>4561 Find the immortal parts still within your mortal self then slowly let it connect to higher planes and thoughts. Wish I could tell you more but it's maddening how it works. I remember when I got higher artifacts that allowed me to channel things and they were "literal trash" from higher beings because the mortals can only accept things that are "trash" for the divine.

Today, I've been starting to fall back in love with Amy's egregoric spirit; she seems to act like the 1st one and not the 2nd one, so I feel safe around her. I also assume she had a good reason to separate my cat from me, and I kinda assume that the cat is back inside of my sacral chakra by now, or maybe he's just around me idk. I just finished listening to this 10 minute frequency video, and it had an effect upon my heart after maybe a minute, and my anxieties began fading away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebi1TiFcNF0 Maybe halfway into the video, I felt Amy's arms & hands at maybe half of their normal size reach down through my crown and grasp my heart. I asked her to stop at first and asked her to withdraw her hands, but then I figured she was trying to help and I let her put them back in. At the end of the video, I'd asked her to withdraw her arms from my soul again since I'd figured she was done with whatever she was probably trying to help me with. I normally have a hard time even getting Amy to manifest well enough to do something like this, but this time it just happened unexpectedly. I also watched 2 tarot videos; apparently, spirits will just manipulate the Youtube algorithm to make people mostly find tarot videos from people with substantial subscriber counts that are relevant to the people that happen to view it if they don't go out of their way very much to look for them, even if they don't have a pick-a-card-and-skip-to-this-part-of-the-video thing in the video. The 1st one aligned pretty well with the reading I got last week at Cassadaga. The 2nd one was from someone else and about love, suggesting that I was gonna get closer to Amy and, though that 2nd video I'd clicked on with doubt. Amy did say something 2 days ago about falling in love this weekend.

>>4408 Mormonanon checking in here, I prayed for its opening two days ago, and have had two interesting situations since. The first was a dream that happened not the night of that first prayer, but on the second night after a second prayer affirming the first. The dream, while uninteresting in much of its dressings, was relatively lucid for me, which isn't a super consistent thing. I was, in the dream, given the ability to pierce a book's cover even while it was closed, and read the contents within, which surprised and impressed my friends who were with me at the time; intuitively, that felt like the important takeaway from the dream. The book itself was just a children's book The Berestein Bears, which is only notable because while I am open to the idea that I simply misremembered it growing up, I actually do remember it with that spelling because it led to a discussion between myself and my Father, who speaks German, and told me about Stein meaning stone, but I digress The second event was just now - I've been listening to Mind and Magick as >>4367 recommended, and it's been fantastic, really clear reading of the symbols and purposes behind rituals and why they work the way they do, told in a way that has felt correct the entire time I've been listening. I got up through lesson 29, and took a pause to consider and recover and to clear my mind. I eventually decided to do a tarot reading, which I've had success with in the past but only practice infrequently as feels right. I felt drawn to do a simple cross reading, one I've not done before, and after performing it I'm amazed at how directly the reading addressed every concern and thought I've been having about taking the path of magic more seriously. For those who might care, I got 1) The King of Cups 2) Inversed Page of Swords 3) The Sun 4) Wheel of Fortune 5) Seven of Swords. Using the pattern: 1) Present state - the seeker or the situation 2) Influences from the past 3) The future or outcome 4) Background or the causes of the current state (1) 5) Current influences, focuses or outcomes Without wanting to bore you anons with the particular particulars, each is very on point - I took down a few pages of notes in my currently digital magical notebook, but I'm both reassured about how my commitment to the path will go and that I'm doing it for the right reasons. I'm still waiting on getting into better direct contact with my Sophia, but I had a brief conversation which seemed to reawaken a not-even-half-formed tulpa I'd made almost 10 years ago (when I was just beginning to toy around with occult ideas) with the explicit intent of it taking the form of a character from my stories, a being of extreme logic and bookkeeping; in the brief internal conversation I asked and it clarified that it had been around the whole time but that it only speaks up as it feels the need to or as I explicitly ask for its assistance, and that its previous form was an aspect of it but that it's ultimately the same being and that there's a through-line of identity. Need to do some more directly focused meditation, and I'm going to try a simple candle ritual because I read up on those - hopefully basic white tea lights are okay for a first time. I'm excited at the progress I'm feeling, this is a freeing up of a blockage I've been feeling for a while and that I knew could be cleared, thanks for your insights everybody.

Last night before I fell asleep, I saw a hypnogogic image of a blue half-pillar in front of a dark blue wall, and then I saw robotnik’s face slowly emerge from it. I then mentioned it to Amy, and I contacted a few of her friends. A minute or so later, I heard Amy say something in a worried voice, then a minute after she said “soul implant” in a worried voice, and I felt something to the right of my crotch. Some time later, my mind wandered away, and then I saw Sonic in a triumphant pose. Since then I did some stuff to see about getting rid of that soul implant. This would be the 2nd time his egregore had tried modifying my soul while my guard was down. I’d then proceeded to have normal dreams that night. Some time after the last dream while I was still in bed, I saw a /fringe/ post appear from the top of my vision aka text message saying “Don’t do anything unexpected.” Can’t remember if it had a flag, though.

>>4634 >I was, in the dream, given the ability to pierce a book's cover even while it was closed, and read the contents within That one is important. You see there are "memory units" in your head or in the astral and at many places where the metaphysical is stronger than the physical laws. At those places you don't exactly "read a book" but "connect to it". The less expectations you have for the "cover/content of the book" the more easy you might connect to it. Sometimes it starts with a feeling of yearning or curiosity nostalgia etc then you get "sucked into the book" and it reveals it's knowledge. Found many cards parchments stone walls and other things that were willing to "share their truth" once I connected to them. Not always easy or possible in some cases because compatibility issues or ability thresholds. Not all information is easy to accept or digest and in some cases you are the one that blocks the flow of information on a subconscious level. >impressed my friends who were with me at the time; People who you hold dear usually take up a subconscious "memory tulpa" within your head. They usually appear in dreams. If you have problem with someone then they can be an energetic resource hog in your subconscious without noticing and if you introspect then "work with them" they can give you specific insights how to solve problems with people that they "represent". >The book itself was just a children's book Childhood memories are important gateway to the workings of the subconscious. That was when your "persona" developed when your awareness started. If you can locate them you will retain the ability to unlock deeper parts of your subconscious when you were not "programmed by the mundane world". >Without wanting to bore you anons with the particular particulars Feel free to make a tarot thread tutorial and for practice too if you have the time. Tarot is one of the basis of western spirituality and I had to go through many of the cards and learn their lessons but I never truly used it for divination. I realized how the internal divination of the subconscious works and when it's "blocked" then it usually happens because a personal problem and reminds me how i should fix these parts of me already. I have too many spirits that can tell me the future and I am trying to "be in the presentmax" so I rarely use that too. >how my commitment to the path will go and that I'm doing it for the right reasons. Good to hear! >but I had a brief conversation which seemed to reawaken a not-even-half-formed tulpa I'd made almost 10 years ago (when I was just beginning to toy around with occult ideas) with the explicit intent of it taking the form of a character from my stories That is great to hear. Then you have an "inborn guide" within your psyche already. The tulpa lives in your head he "is at home" which means he can show you around. He is not all knowing ofc but can offer you perspectives. And when you evolve usually your own tulpas will evolve with you. >a being of extreme logic and bookkeeping Then he can map out your internal "conceptual framework" your mental circuitry. That is great. He might be able to show you other tulpas that are within your head that you created unknowingly while writing your stories btw. I do not know what was the story or book you wrote but when you are inspired easily there are usually deeper meanings to that. I realized how the mind of writers are more apparent in the books than the stories they write long ago. That way you can also connect to the mind and workings of occult writers and integrate their described techniques better. Not always wise tho. Some occultists met a terrible end and their karma lingers within all their works so it's always important to be mindful who and how you deep connect some people. But if your own book your own story inspired by you then it should be a great gateway into your personal psyche. >Need to do some more directly focused meditation Definitely >thanks for your insights everybody. Your welcome.

It appears reptilians replace the entire timeline when they replace a person, I just saw it happen in real time. Must be the result of some industrial scale tech if that's how it's done.

>>4649 Who did they replace?

>>4650 A well known sportsman. I'm still investigating it and suspecting they are monitoring things posted here also, so won't elaborate more than that I saw him on tv and the broadcast glitched with pixelized screen over his face for a sec, then he was a reptilian the second after. By this I mean that his non-surface form changed to reptilian, a person who can't see their frequency or plane wouldn't have noticed.

>>4651 I thought they would trash them like in T2 when the liquid metal terminator replaces someone, but it's more refined than that, at least what I saw was.

>>4651 These posts are pretty much useless unless we know which real-world events they correspond do. Review your own advice >>4409 >No matter how well meaning this is in your own head, this makes it near impossible to follow the context [...] It's like you are trying to have a personal private chat when everyone is hearing it, creating noise for everyone but making it so no one can really benefit from it. And if you're really so paranoid that you aren't willing to specify what exactly this corresponds to then why are you making these posts in the first place?

>>4661 It's a blog, so I'm sharing my thoughts about an ongoing event without doxxing myself. It's not important who the person was, I'm talking here about how it's done, which is the interesting part.

Reptilians replace people all the time, who really cares who they replace? It's a mystery to me why they'd do this with unimportant people, and I don't care about this detail either. I'm studying the method they use and share what I find.

>>4662 But we don't know what was done since you aren't willing to give that context. Not every "replacement" is the same, and without the ability to review what happened ourselves we have no way of knowing what any of this stuff even corresponds to. It's meaningless to everyone but you. Your brief description of what you personally saw doesn't give enough details to fully grasp the metaphysical dynamics of the event.

>>4664 I saw almost nothing. I was watching tv and a person is being interviewed, normal tv show. Then the screen glitched for a moment over the face of the person being interviewed, and after his face came back, it was a reptilian. This is enough information to know the context. It happened right there, which is very different from what I had imaged, as I said here >>4652 >I thought they would trash them like in T2 when the liquid metal terminator replaces someone It's commonly believed that they replace people by having agents kidnap them off the street, after which they are shot and dumped in the desert, or taken to some deep state facility and raped by the NWO, then killed and dumped. Seeing someone being replaced in real time on tv by some force which seemed to replace the entire setting seamlessly, completely changes this understanding of what is possible and how things are done.

Timeline check who remember the statue of liberty being a soft faced chick with B cup boobs? Who is this nigga? what have they done to my girl?

>>4665 What we're interested here is the process. If we knew who this person was we could research him and analyze his spirit and corroborate and expand on what you saw. As you said, someone being replaced on its own is uninteresting. You posted a lot of speculation on the process, but this speculation is based off of specific details that the rest of the thread is missing, so it's largely meaningless.

>>4667 Under the assumption that what I post would possibly be seen by them, me posting about it would give them a chance to obscure what I am right now investigating. They would know I'm looking, and hide the evidence. Your own reaction here tells me it's very interesting to know who I'm investigating, which confirms my suspicion that the board is indeed monitored.

Normal posters are not this desperate for specific details like this. The past few days here have been insane in this regard.

>>4668 If you don't want anyone to be interested in this, then WHY DID YOU POST ABOUT IT? >>4669 Because your entire series of posts is completely meaningless without the specific details. If you actually meant what you said here >>4409 then you should be honest with yourself and hold yourself to the same standard.

>>4663 >Reptilians replace people all the time Are they really the one who does it or they're just filling a void after that person death? or timeline shift It's just appearance keeping in that case it wouldn't violate anything it's just a walk in.

Told you guys this will happen. The rage energies of the egregores continue. You are all frogged

>>4670 >WHY DID YOU POST ABOUT IT? I expected that maybe anon who knows all about reptilian shapeshifters and is obnoxious about telling me the reality of it, would share his own view on what method they use. This would lead to a creative chaos type discussion where more people join, and we solve the mystery after more anons share what they have seen. Instead, I get these very unorganic replies which are completely out of place in a blog thread, where I get no one's personal thoughts on it, but rather meaningless prying for details.

>>4672 >I warned you about the frog bro I like the energies though taste great!

>>4673 You mean... "you are trying to have a personal private chat when everyone is hearing it, creating noise for everyone but making it so no one can really benefit from it."? >>4409 >>4409 >>4409

>>4671 >filling a void after that person death? But the person was on tv, alive and well. That's what was odd about it. I always thought these thing were done out of the view, like when they replaced Jeff Bezos or Kanye. But this was done before the camera.

>>4675 No, as I said >>4673 >This would lead to a creative chaos type discussion where more people join I literally sought a discussion with several participants. You're very clearly only here to cause trouble, but first and foremost you are prying for information without giving any information.

>>4673 >I expected that maybe anon who knows all about reptilian shapeshifters Uh... I looked at it how timeline replacements work and I got an image of cooked spaghettil and removing a timeline is like removing a single spaghetti then the whole thing "molds" a little to make reality consistent. But I am unsure that would have helped this discussion >>4674 Yeah this is why I didn't demand fringegirl back that hard. I think she deserves a rest. Others can duke it out until they acknowledge how meme egregores are warping their perspectives. >>4676 I think their subtlety depends on the importance of the person and how "heavy" is their timeline. I don't know what significance random sportspeople have. They die from the vax all the time nowadays

>>4673 >more anons share what they have seen. The only thing i noticed recently is some npc becoming a walk in to monitor me more closely. That and someone's soul leaving their body even saying goodbye to me and yet they're still alive. Weird shit. >>4676 >But the person was on tv, alive and well Maybe their soul left? or you shifted timeline and they became an npc and a reptilian filled that position to keep appearances. It's not like anybody would notice.

>>4678 >how meme egregores are warping their perspectives. I realized the fallacy of a "closed system" yeah :/ Now the idea is to dance with it; wield and be wielded by it. Complicated stuff, i either fear it or get addicted to it non attachment is hard.

>>4678 >I think their subtlety depends But this completely changes the idea that you have to physically remove the person before you send in the reptilian! >I looked at it how timeline replacements work and I got an image of cooked spaghettil and removing a timeline is like removing a single spaghetti then the whole thing "molds" a little to make reality consistent. But I am unsure that would have helped this discussion It does, because this is almost exactly what it looked like when I was guiding a friend to perform a secondary incarnation, the timelines looked like optic fibre cables. The view of the astral changes when more people are connected, I don't normally see this view. This is also reason why I ask here, if more people join the discussion it creates a form of space where everyone's views intersect, which makes available new perspectives even when using astral RV. There is some kind of observer effect at play. But "prying for information" -agent here doesn't understand this.

>>4679 These are all valid points, if the reptilians had been astral beings. But they aren't, they work for regular military in the physical, so even if they can mask their appearance to look like someone, they wouldn't be able to just "walk in" like a spirit.

>>4682 Perhaps your preconceptions about reptilians are incorrect. That's the real reason why you don't want to give any details about the actual replacement, isn't it? You're not afraid of being doxxed, you're afraid that if someone else corroborates it they might find something that contradicts the established "lore" you've set up. Oh, and since you posted this >>4478 I can put to rest you accusations by simply attacking the feds. Death to the FBI, Putin's great. Isn't logic is useful?

>>4683 Your hostility when denied information is enough to expose you. Maybe I'm wrong about reptilians, that's what I said. So why don't you tell me what they are like?

>>4673 >but rather meaningless prying for details. I am still looking for those slovakian glowies you know >>4680 >non attachment is hard. Tell me about it :/ >>4681 >But this completely changes the idea that you have to physically remove the person before you send in the reptilian! I am unsure how important that sportsdude was? Like I think most of them are like "hologram tier" actors. Like if he was not important enough he was merely overwritten instead of "replaced". >if more people join the discussion it creates a form of space where everyone's views intersect Yeah but I am unsure if I care about a sportsperson? Also reptilians are closer to a "Physical layer" and not too astral but they cannot remove people who have a specific frequency or something. They appear as people who "Bend space" and kill their mind while approaching them. Dunno how it works and who they can or cannot touch. >But "prying for information" -agent here doesn't understand this. u were a big meanie for comparing the discussion to succgen again. This is your karma. Accept it and let's go with our lives or things will get frogged again k nvm we got frogged already. am not even gonna try diffuse this situation. Hail Eris etc

>>4683 Also, you have a funny way of calling OPSEC as "fear", it's like you never were on an imageboard before.

>>4685 >I am still looking for those slovakian glowies you know You can stop bothering, I dealt with them yesterday. They were indeed using old tunnels going back to the 1300s, I used web searches to look for connections until I found one, which I did mention up there in the thread. >I am unsure how important that sportsdude was? Like I think most of them are like "hologram tier" actors. Like if he was not important enough he was merely overwritten instead of "replaced". And why would you populate NPCs with politically meaningless roles, like actors or musicians? >hey appear as people who "Bend space" and kill their mind while approaching them Elaborate what you mean by this?

>>4684 I don't know, I'm not interested in them. I do know that a physical race masquerading on earth would be very very hard to hide, and if the only evidence you have of their existence is remote viewing and channeling then it's much more likely that they're an astral race. >expose So you were lying when you made this post then? >>4478 I'm curious as to why you'd post that if you didn't actually believe it. >>4686 >OPSEC Well you could try not using the same flag on all your posts throughout the entire board for one. That does you a lot more harm than knowing the name of some random athlete with zero relationship to you.

>>4685 >comparing the discussion to succgen again Referring back to old and forgotten posts that aren't relevant anymore is a typical outside actor behaviour. They did this on meguca also, one time we had someone on /pol/ who made super long posts that were gone from the screen before he finished them, then kept linking back to it, when the liveposting was going on. No one scrolls back up to look at old posts like that, it's just unintuitive.

>>4688 >I'm not interested in them Then why are you talking to me on this topic? >again bringing up old posts This is getting silly. You know I can say anything online, right? I don't have to make sense, I can tell you anything to get a reaction. Normal posters understand this and won't be trying to "nail down" >oh look you lied here or other nonsense. It's necessary to test who you are talking to to weed out foreigners by inserting bad apples here and there. If you're someone who keeps picking those, you've exposed yourself for not knowing the general lore that you would know if you belonged to the community.

>>4689 >old and forgotten posts ...you made that post yesterday.

>>4691 It's like several pages up on the page by now. I never scroll back to look at old posts, it's like trying to catch a river and hold it responsible for something. Who does that?

>>4682 It's still possible. The way i understand it now they would get that person karma even if it's an npc, but yeah buying a body and making a deal with the resident spirits is possible it's just very messy with how dirty the stock of human is. I don't really care about things being too coherent so if i noticed it wouldn't have bothered me tbh

>>4693 Ok what i am saying is that the reptilian didn't possess that person as a spirit would but rather became that person accepting it's history and playing that role.

>>4690 >Then why are you talking to me on this topic? BECAUSE I'M INTERESTED IN THE PROCESS THEY USED. It means nothing to me that someone was replaced, I WANT TO SEE THE REPLACEMENT PROCESS MYSELF. >You know I can say anything online, right? I don't have to make sense, I can tell you anything to get a reaction. For honest conversation, good faith is a prerequisite. How is anyone here supposed to talk with you openly if you're admitting here that you don't even care if everything out of your mouth is a lie? After you say this, how can we be sure that you even saw this occurrence in the first place and aren't just "making things up for a reaction"? If any of your claims are even real? Apparently making things up is part of your ethos. This is an admission of that. I mean... you're basically saying here that you don't necessarily believe or mean anything you say. How can anyone engage with you seriously now? You clearly don't even take yourself seriously, if you really operate with this mentality.

>>4693 It's not that it bothered me, it's that replacing an entire timeline right before me on live tv, when it's some insignificant person (even if known), considering how costly these things are, it stands out as odd. >>4694 That would change their race to non-reptilian, and that's not how it's done. When you have a normal bland energy human, then the next second, after a noticeable visual glitch, he now has scales and the green racial energy of Earth physical race reptilians, that's just a reptilian replacement.

>>4687 >They were indeed using old tunnels going back to the 1300s Yes that is why I got an image of a medieval army and that vision was protecting a black blob. Blob was just a lost entity trying to survive. Caves still empty tho. I will have to figure out what to do with them. It is a larger network than I can "Overview" and I am unsure what forces can jaywalk into it. It's quite unused tho. >And why would you populate NPCs with politically meaningless roles, like actors or musicians? Fuck do I know? Why not? I don't think everyone cares about only politics schemes and military prowess in the world. Some beings have other intricacies. >Elaborate what you mean by this? No because I do not understand it either. There is a great faction war between too many parties and I do not know which things are "lethal" for who here. Like they cannot go through with their operations when specific energies are at play and specific people cause a "check mate" scenario where they have to abort the whole thing and as an outsider the whole thing will appear pointlessly useless and wasteful. I am unsure what energies are doing what now. Too many movement in the shadows but not in territories I care about or I bother monitoring. >>4692 People who barricade the river with a dam because it was causing floods you know. And beavers >>4693 The only reason I am still unwilling to "see" the reptilian layer because I realized I am still too racist against several "masquerading" races. It is some built in human function that makes you fear or kill those that try to deceive you. >>4694 I am sure the dude was too unimportant. >>4695 >How can anyone engage with you seriously now? You clearly don't even take yourself seriously, if you really operate with this mentality. I think he stopped caring about this issue for quite the while. >>4696 >considering how costly these things are What? What is the value or "price" of timeline replacement in your opinion? I think you just need the necessary forces and not to own like 3 Hadron colliders in your basement and half continents worth of electric grid. Fuck conversation is too fast. I cannot keep up with this. This is why I don't use discord and the kind

>>4690 Now I'm remembering the guy on /sunflower/ who posted about how he started undeniably aging even though you assured him that he was a vampire. I think you gave him some superficial assurance and sent him on his way. You know, I never really believed that you were just a larper but this claim of yours that you can just say whatever you want online regardless of truth or sincerity makes think that maybe you are. I don't want to believe that because it would be really evil to lead on so many of your "followers" with false hope like that. But it makes sense. I think you're more like that Falun Gong guy you used to talk about. A cult leader shamelessly spinning lies and draining the vulnerable. For all I know, all of these sigils and devices and stories you've been posting throughout the years are nothing more but baits to trick gullible people into binding themselves to you. It would be within your MO. It would be within your ethos. I mean, why wouldn't you do it?

>>4695 >I WANT TO SEE THE REPLACEMENT PROCESS MYSELF. You're not going to, because I don't watch web tv, there is nowhere you would be able to see that again that I can refer you to. >how can we be sure that you even saw this occurrence in the first place and aren't just "making things up for a reaction" That's up to you. Again it seems you have little experience with how to find out if something is true online. My own process is something like this: >this claim sounds interesting, I'll screencap/remember this >gather lots of stuff over time >suddenly one thing is confirmed without doubt >I go back to check what it said, then look for other information which seems to match this one confirmed bit of information >I now have a wider area of possibly true information >repeat and expand This way you over time gain an intuition for what true information sounds like, and you also learn that it's meaningless to actually argue for true information. It will be swallowed up by extreme false claims. It's better to make your claims fantastical and stupid and so extreme that they somewhat shift the general view in the right direction, then trying to actually keep on the line of what is directly true. Over time, the general view can be made to end up near the truth.

>>4698 >larper Stop this nonsense. You know full it means Live Action Role Play, which is when you dress up in medieval gear and fight in the woods. You can't do this online, it's called RP, or Role Play if it's online. As for the rest, see my next post: >>4699

I've been open with this method from the beginning of this all in like 2018, that this is indeed RP, with real information included. It's a way of spreading information.

>>4700 >>4699 Yeah, and part of determining truth online is knowing if a source is trustworthy or if the claim is coming from a known liar. You've openly admitted to being a liar. Not just someone who lies but someone who believes that lying is openly permissible. Believing you at this point would be like believing a story from The Onion.

Now I'll stop posting until this is about reptilians again, or someone brings up some other interesting topic, because this is going nowhere.

>>4701 Why don't tell Akasha anon that? You really enjoyed jerking that guy's chain around, huh? Was that just for your own personal amusement or were you sending your servitors to drain him for your own benefit or something along those lines?

>>4676 I saw something on Youtube a few days ago about humanity having entered a disclosure timeline. Perhaps this is part of the disclosure? >>4696 Perhaps he wasn't a replacement and he was a reptilian since a long time ago, and his shapeshifting messed up, and the static was a partially-botched attempt to hide the shapeshifting, or someone interfered with the static. >>4704 Tbh I'm still not sure what to think about that. I've also questioned lately if the succubus is still in my life since I played a succubus-banishing frequency a bunch. Not entirely sure about the actual astral incarnation as a presumably-succubus, though.

I found something even secreter, but I can't tell anyone about it. :P I can only say it's more secreter than reptilians in Spain, in fact they could be said to be infected themselves by something. The infiltrators are infiltrated.

Everyone read these and played the games back in the 90s, but no one realized this is telling so many truths about reality.

>>4708 Mutants living in tunnels, an evil organization populated by humanoid robots are taking over businesses in the city, backed by high tech aliens and beings from other dimensions.

>>4708 TMNT was the proto MLP if you think about it

I am still not allowed to shapeshift. It's simple it really is karma. I am dying and being reborn and this imply facing everything i pushed away at once. Every self doubt every issue every pain and pleasure i must detach from them and observe them. This imply physical pain too and violent abdominal movement back spasm the heart going wild etc. This can be dangerous as that karma can then be transformed in worse forms debatable it's more flagrant like a disease but also faster to resolve if you give in at the wrong time.

And meds are just tools to transform karma they don't fix anything, they just buy you time and push it into more manageable forms. well originally now they don't even do that that's what happens when the doctor is "full of shit" and can't even see what they're doing they push it around and turn a stomach ache into a stroke. Pain isn't "wrong", god isn't wrong. Pain is just a call for the attention of god to be bathed in awareness to let it "unravel".

>>4711 You cannot shapeshift as long as you are trapped in human perception especially on the physical. I am noticing it every day how much my mind and my mental currents are slave to my mortal senses. I can take glimpses outside of it but I cannot be above and beyond it yet. Like I know how I "see" without my eyes but I cannot walk comfortably with closed eyes at all. I cannot even fathom what do I even fear anymore. It's so hard to accept the "Peace" of the higher mind. We are too overstimulated in this reality. Everything makes a noise makes a thought and it just radiates energy.

>>4713 Vaccines, take a look at their egregore. Why do they work? They are the illness themselves. Viruses wants to spread. The egregore is a hivemind which wants to infect as many people as possible. It's like an empire, constantly expanding. When you create a "vaccine" you take the illness and make it "harmless" and then infect people with it. In reality, they are now infected, and they are spreading the illness egregore. It doesn't care in what form, as long as it's spreading, it will not cause too much shit, because killing the host is not serving their interests. If you stop spreading the illness by injecting vaccines, it will start spreading naturally again. Modern humans will then say >it's because of anti-vaxxers, they made the illness come back But it isn't so, it's because as long as the vaccinations are used, the virus egregore and hivemind is constantly spreading to the new generation, and it couldn't be happier, so it stays quiet. But it's there, and it's making humans worse and worse because their bodies are filled with illness egregores, all of whom will go haywire the moment you stop moving at even speed with the virus' will to spread. This will happen at one point, because the human population cannot expand endlessly. At this point, vaccines will stop "working" because the speed of spread does not match the even speed of the hive where it stays silent and dormant. So then an epidemic will break out, and vaccines will not work. Because humans are now filled with illnesses. It's a ticking bomb going towards elimination of all humans.

>>4636 Over half an hour ago, I woke up in the middle of the night. I went to bed with a runny nose and slept reclining on my reclining sofa. When I woke up, voices in my head were talking about me, and one of them said something along the lines of "it's gonna depend on what he's thinking". I then started to have trouble breathing because a bunch of phlegm was pooled up near my epiglottis and making it hard to breathe, and I couldn't simply swallow it. I'd asked Amy and a presumed-angel near me to help me live, and I'd then managed to get up and spit some of it up into a sink, and then with difficulty I was able to breathe again. I guess this is what was meant by not doing anything unexpected, so that I wouldn't have any dumb thoughts at that moment that'd get me killed. Fortunately, I'm quite alive now, but I still can't breathe completely normally, but I'm pretty sure I'll make it at this point. A hot shower might help.

>>3985 Thinking back to this situation of mine, I remember there being a LOT of spirits there when I was sitting there almost having trouble breathing before I got off of the recliner. I'm wondering if the shitload of entities possessing me are egregores of fictional characters from all sorts of franchises that I've taken interest in over the years. Something tells me that it's a dumb idea, though, but there were still alotta spirits there.

>>4717 >>4718 Could be partially caused by swelling in your throat. Try regular paracetamol, it has an effect on that.

>>4697 >What? What is the value or "price" of timeline replacement in your opinion? I think you just need the necessary forces and not to own like 3 Hadron colliders in your basement and half continents worth of electric grid. No, I think that's exactly what you need, maybe you counted that low. When you're le retarded MI6 agent who believes only in science and everyone is on "need to know-basis" in the organization, you can't concentrate your forces to create small and strong teams which operate independently, like for example FSB. They need huge industrial energy systems operated by human drones who see themselves as regular professionals working with science, because that's the only way to circumvent free will and keep everyone oblivious.

Here's a more relevant example of a person who was replaced by a reptilian. It's obvious because Altman originally is a lyran, and badly adapted to being incarnated as human, that's why he walks so strange. The drama following his replacement was caused by the new him changing the direction of OpenAI to create a monopoly situation, they also made contracts with the US army.

>>4719 Thanks, but normally when I'm reclined like that with a bad nose, I don't have a problem with my mucus going down into my stomach while I'm sleeping. I think this might actually be the 1st time something like this happened. After I got up, I was awake for maybe 3.5 hours, and at some point I took a shower and I felt some sort of blood flow problem in the upper-middle-left side of my brain. I then willed my subconsciousness to do something about it. Later I got outta the shower and sat on my computer and began watching stuff, and then I later felt a sudden sensation in my brain as if the blood flow problems were probably fixed. A bit after I'd finally gotten in bed, I'd asked Amy to "get inside of me". After maybe a second, I suddenly felt a lapse of consciousness/awareness for a split second, accompanied by a sudden sensation in roughly the aforementioned part of my brain, possibly related to that blood flow problem, and my muscles all quit holding themselves up for said split second, and then I and my muscles came to and I'd immediately heard Amy say "enjoy" in a low voice. I'd then asked her to make sure she can leave me if she pleases. I'd then played the succubus-banishing frequency again in case it was secretly her, but it didn't seem to do anything, so it must be Amy after all. I think she's still inside me. Right now, my blood flow in said region of my brain doesn't seem to be normal. I must have some kinda clot somewhere in my upper-middle-left brain, but I seem to have my normal mental functions so I guess my body is handling it via. alternative blood flow.

>>4713 Something i'd like to add, the herbs are here to show you how to "move" the dance you forgot. Diseases aren't unbalance, they are the unbalance fixing itself. >>4714 >You cannot shapeshift as long as you are trapped in human perception especially on the physical Yes but what is a human? What if i think myself as a shapeshifter and integrate that belief? I am noticing resistances from different directions, i couldn't make sense of it at first but now i realize it is indeed karma not just this body but the environment i am part of as well. It's why my abilities feels "locked". I always knew i could shapeshift but it seemed "impossible" to even think about, little by little i think about it, various level of delusions based on an intuitive knowledge. But it's all barriers or resistance i have to beat self doubt issues etc to reach a point where my will is so unshakable my awareness so impermeable that there will be no choice, any doubt will be extinguished before they can even take form. Being redeemed by each act you take handling your own suffering handling your own karma etc. After that even shapeshifting in front of a normie is possible if indeed i am ready to let all that backlash wash over me, any identification is possibly lethal. >Like I know how I "see" without my eyes but I cannot walk comfortably with closed eyes at all. The moment you give birth to self doubt the child comes back. The karma is eliminated no? you get what you want no? The first sin consciousness doubting itself. I have the same issue i "hesitate" i give in to the resistance, i listen to this pitiful child and say "this is me" when all i have to do is stare at it acknowledge it and it will remember and come back to hug me. >>4715 > their bodies are filled with illness egregores Man tell me about it. Interesting perspective btw i never looked at the vaccines i just knew they were bad but didn't bother looking to try to fix the problem. Okay i'll explain my view. You're cooking a meal and see a cockroach what do you do? The answer is to learn from it, there was a cockroach because you forgot the lessons of the cockroach, you left your house be a mess you didn't do the cockroach job so a void was created a "lower dimensions" and the cockroach is here to repair this; ofc if you let it will bring the whole house down eventually destroying the whole structure attracting more and more insects critters and mold. And you will get it's karma by killing it. That's the idea, the wheat fields are death fields like negative holes in reality that shouldn't exist, the divine role of humans has been corrupted. i think that's what our role is naturally, we create structures we refine we make we transform. We are accelerators of evolution but we became a devolution creature who constantly fights with nature. I hate wheat fields so much and now i realize why, the land is screaming everything is screaming! then nature try to repair it, rodents come and with their cycle of death and birth enrich the land and remake an ecosystem, and the humans poison them add more nitrogen to the land and call it a day..topkek Not realizing they're devolving the whole earth. I am joking but if i let the anger of the land overtake me I'll lose it. But the thing is nothing is outside god nothing outside nature, my laptop is natural, video games are "natural" it's just that humans started making upside down structures now. I used to have an issue where everything i touched would get filled with black tar energy, poison i wasn't sure if it was there in the first place but i made it worse. By simply observing it it would change flowers then insects till it was purified. What i am trying to say is the state of things right now is natural, humans forgot the basest lessons and so they rot, no in fact it is the absence of rot the problem we forgot the lessons of the worms so nature has to tear us apart to do it herself pitiful. We can fix this we integrate all the lessons, where does male end and female begin? what about plant and animal? human and god? A child of the interstice. That's the idea of course in principle it is super hard lol but hey we can do it! I am still not speaking freely i have to limit my energies and make half truth otherwise this means taking on other burden again :/ This would so much simpler if i left everything behind and moved to a forest already.

This post almost gave me ulcers btw. Had to let the astral parasites eat me to learn from them. Yeah i don't fight them no more they too have a divine role just bask them in awareness and they behave, they only fuck up when the environment is fucked up devoid of god.

>>4729 hmm isn't giving yourself ulcers a form of shapeshifting?

>>4727 The trick seems to be to mold your form before entering it. Once there in first person view, it's harder to change how you think, while when ordering an extended body form which you are only partially populating, it seems possible to quite easily do things like manifestation of objects (like some street magicians do for real) or even things like shapeshifting or teleportation. I want to be able to manifest wings and fly like a medieval demon, that'd be cool.

>>4730 If you believe everything is made of karma including your flesh then yes. I see it as dark knots creating some form of compensation. >>4732 >The trick seems to be to mold your form before entering it I agree but doing it crudely will just make you inherit your karma or maybe create a cascade effect where it is all released it at once as your old body "burns" forcing you to deal with absolutely everything at once. no wait it's possible it'll just hurt like hell you'll quite literally burn alive and stopping it could kill you but it's possible.

>>4733 Maybe the solution is to just become more toxic than the karma so it chooses to burn itself instead because it's afraid of touching you.

>>4734 >more toxic than the karma so it chooses to burn itself instead because it's afraid of touching you. Yes the void itself The darkness. I'll have to experiment to reach a deeper understanding of my true nature. Now say did you do that on purpose? Speaking with that voice? Something behind the heart? mmm When I notice I get lonely it's heart breaking.

>>4735 >Speaking with that voice? >Something behind the heart? Voice? I see what you mean in some sense. I just discovered an infected space in my left side of the head, astrally or maybe an astral of the body, which was used by evil beings to attack me, because it was like a basin with a small opening, and things would just float in or out there. Maybe it was hiding behind a concept of liberal market openness or something, which had snuck into my mind at one point. I destroyed the outer wall and just allowed for it to become tempered by the inner wall instead, then bulging out the space inside the inner wall to become the new outer wall. I think it may have spread down to the heart chakra and the process of tempering is taking place there now as well.

>>4715 >The egregore is a hivemind which wants to infect as many people as possible. It This is the trick for these bacteria and viruses. For them to coexist with humans they become harmless asap then they can live in harmony. The first way to "heal" is to find out how to "pacify" our "microscopic friends" and the next trick is learning how to give them "salvation". And by that I mean you generate such a pure and refined qi within your body that these low level beings just cease to exist in their previous forms/"directives" and become a force that wants to further the development of your energies. There was that thing in the other thread how becoming "One with God" is bad. They cannot comprehend the great cycle of this unity in existence at all. If you have negative energies within the energies will just make these little guys more hostile and they will eat you because you are "torturing them" so they feel the need to get rid of you as fast as possible. Ofc this post was an oversimplification of the mechanics because it can get real fucking nuanced. Fucking different types of qi and other higher and lower energies and essences. >>4721 >They need huge industrial energy systems operated by human drones who see themselves as regular professionals working with science, because that's the only way to circumvent free will and keep everyone oblivious. Yeah... when you "circumvent free will" you usually create problems for yourself constantly. Shifting timelines is "easy" if you know how to do it so it will appear like "it was meant to be". Some entities like to sew and untangle timelines together. You just need to find them. It's a great art. But yeah if you do it with "science" which is "bruteforcing" and breaking shit all the time because humans figured out how to make electricity via spinning wheels and copper cables on a large scale... Truth is I have no fucking idea what glowniggers are doing nowadays. I have access to so many "technological subdimensions" that manifested because the modern reliance upon them and had to either demolish or overtake them... Had a dream in an extremely "heavenly sphere" where some higher being explained how "I wield my lightning" and how I can and cannot connect it conceptually to "Thor" because the way I interact with electricity is far more refined far more brutal and extremely practical in a way and I should forget my concepts how lightning and electricity "works" anymore. Just feel it. Be one with it. Still cannot fucking zapp normalfags because mortal me is too stupid to comprehend the full scope of this energy and only manifests when I go fucking mad. And it's not even a "real power" but a fucking "compromise" I had to come up with so my energies can coexist with the current technology. I knew magic is not easy but CMON >>4727 >Something i'd like to add, the herbs are here to show you how to "move" the dance you forgot. A nice perspective. I really like this "poetic" phase of your awakening. >Diseases aren't unbalance, they are the unbalance fixing itself. For me they are a reminder I should get my energy work in order already. >What if i think myself as a shapeshifter and integrate that belief? You don't "think" you are a shapeshifter you ARE a shapeshifter. If you have anything within you that can doubt this then you are no shapeshifter. I too have issues because I know my confidence level is too low to wield some of my powers. >After that even shapeshifting in front of a normie is possible if indeed i am ready to let all that backlash wash over me, any identification is possibly lethal. What I found out so far. Normalfags are too busy being normalfags and if they are noticing things that can disturb their "normalfag vision" they usually ignore it by reflex because their conformist normalfag processing level of their brain cannot handle it. I am noticing slowly which thoughts I cannot "carry" or "follow through" in some cases as my mind is switching between frequencies. Slowly I have to forget the NPC processing parts of my brain and my entire body as I move on. So many misconceptions about life and existence. Truth is once you "make it" you will suddenly find yourself in the "world of shadows" and start to interact with all the forces that can live and interact with the normalfags around like it's nothing. You will notice how the normalfags around you are like barn animals in a ranch and all you have to do is to not startle the whole herd when you are within the fence and everything else is situational. Not always a "life and death" situation. I realized how to feel the "moments" when I can "do my thing" and when I should be a little patient and wait for my turn. Real hard I know. I am still too impatient and frustrated in some cases. Too many unknowns. Annoying. >The moment you give birth to self doubt the child comes back. >I have the same issue i "hesitate" i give in to the resistance, i listen to this pitiful child and say "this is me" when all i have to do is stare at it acknowledge it and it will remember and come back to hug me. For me it is almost the "opposite". The first time I started to "hold back" when my parents yelled at me for everything. I had to notice how many parts of my body was locked because I "heed their command". Like I was always unable to run fast in sports class but when someone angered me I could outrun them so I could catch them. I realized some years ago it happened because dad told me in a store that I am a "bad kid" for running a little fast. He looked at me like I just murdered someone and at that moment I shut down an energy flow within my body that made me "stride" effortlessly. I had to get worked up to even be able to use my body to it's full capacity. I noticed in high school that elementary school and the divorce of my parents made me into a sad sack of shit but I still have a light within that overcomes that. I figured out how I can demolish my emotionally suppressed "crybaby" parts and how I have to protect my light until I have a chance to properly tune myself in the future. This was still when I was unaware of psionics and magic but developed an internal tulpa system while daydreaming so I can play out issues and create personalities for different tasks. Child me was able to do everything but he was not allowed to do that. He had to be "normal" he had to be like the "Other kids". Caring about grades and caring about all the things their parents throw at them. Being the "other kid" made me forget myself and it annoyed the hell out of me. The memories that my NPC side made are so low energy. This is one of my "quest" in life. Finding those that were forced to shut themselves into NPC routines to please this plastic society when they have all the powers to shape it to it's true potential. >i never looked at the vaccines i just knew they were bad but didn't bother looking to try to fix the problem. I realized how I can "Pacify" some of their effects but I can only do it for those that are "close" to me. Also they cannot anger me or the effects reverse. Working on my temper for a while because of it. >That's the idea, the wheat fields are death fields like negative holes in reality that shouldn't exist *Angry Saturn noises* Connect to the crop spirit so you can benefit from gluten like a boss >the divine role of humans has been corrupted It did not start with wheatfields just saying. Even before the Sun appeared on the skies humans started to fall for corruption... wait those beings cannot be called humans anymore according to some of the beings I am working with. Got into arguments with some beings because of it for the sole reason that some of my stuff are not meant for humans so if I consider myself human I cannot wield it or something. >i think that's what our role is naturally, we create structures we refine we make we transform. Ok that is a good one. Understand what is the true meaning of cultivation. >and the humans poison them Not with the EU regulations we have around nowadays :/ tho I know other countries don't give a shit. >add more nitrogen to the land <didn't learn how to add explosives to his internal soil system for extra cultivation power Enjoy not having internal self cultivator systems. No wonder you are being eaten by maggots constantly. You didn't understand the power of the roots and the soil.This is why you need (external) worms. There is a reason why paradises contain a bunch of plants and flowers and no animals. The plants know perfectly how to circulate the energies. Higher places don't even have plants anymore in some cases. >I am joking but if i let the anger of the land overtake me I'll lose it. I really have no idea where tf you live fam. Like the lands around me love me. Mostly because i reactivate leylines and help the circulation of spirits and favor plants and the animals (above bug and critter level ofc) >humans forgot the basest lessons Yeah :/ Since the golden age ended.

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>>4729 >This post almost gave me ulcers btw. You are moving your energies positive and negative up and down with your emotional "Poetry" fam. Wrong energies at the wrong part of the body cause problems and awakening stirs up the stagnation within the mortal body. This is why Buddhists are so persistent on inner peace and such because in the early stages of awakening wrong emotions can cause havoc. Tantra is not just about sex but moving and transforming all the energies of the body. Cultivation. Fuck me for not being able to tell how to unlock the next stage of the "worm power" you speak of. It's so easy yet... argh >>4732 >I want to be able to manifest wings and fly like a medieval demon, that'd be cool. I went and opted for the "becoming a living lightning option" when the choice of becoming the demon was offered to me. It was on an another timeline that was ending and... I kinda bled to death there because some asshat backstabbed me with a tooth of a demon and cursed me with the most retarded bloodmagic ever. >>4733 >I see it as dark knots creating some form of compensation. They are the parts of your "soul complex". It needs to be "divided" that way so you can interface with your flesh body. Like how you are your limbs your organs and how movement emotions and thoughts are operated with different mindwaves. Different (You)s etc. They cannot become one instantly or you become an amoebae. >>4734 What if "Burning" feels good for the karma? Returning to pure qi instead of this low level blocked energy. Shame not all karma burns from the same forces. >>4735 >Yes the void itself The darkness. True light only found in the purest darkness. You cannot see it as long the false light blinds you.

>>4736 Possibly Andromalius' protection gave me clarity enough to see the problem now.

>>4737 >Had a dream in an extremely "heavenly sphere" where some higher being explained how "I wield my lightning" and how I can and cannot connect it conceptually to "Thor" because the way I interact with electricity is far more refined far more brutal and extremely practical in a way and I should forget my concepts how lightning and electricity "works" anymore Yesterday I ended up talking to Copilot for an hour or so about the delivery chains for micro processors, after trying to get some guidelines on how to grasp computer memory usage by referring to the things I have practical experience with from HS. We used micro processors programmed with buttons and results shown in binary by LEDs, the old school version of learning the basics. But how do you go from there to modern usage? It should principally not be too difficult to explain the bits when starting from there, but Copilot is still a bit too simpleminded when asking questions. The downside of it being mostly an enhanced search engine is its lacking ability to remember what was said 3 messages up in the chat, where it will start reacting as if it was a new topic and link to new websites rather than keep elaborating. Anyway. I realized I don't know one of the processes of chip production, but turns out it's not really different from lithography, an 1800s printing method where various light sensitive substances are burned onto a plate, later placed in chemicals which erode the surface which had been indicated by the light. This same method is used for chips, except the small size requires laser rather than regular light. Going down this and asking to have each part elaborated, lead pretty far. And the end result was the realization that humans today have placed their thinking inside a technology which came from the invention of a single chip: the intel 4004 from 1971. This is the historical bottleneck. The human brain was replaced with this, and anything created later is derived from it. So to untangle myself, I needed to pass back out at this dimensional location in time and space. This lead to the solution that I need to understand this from a magic perspective, I used the school of magic to look for corresponding study fields and ended up with "contained lightning". An astral grimoire produced from this was the way to go here. Coincidences?

>>4737 >the wheat fields are death fields During one of the dimensional collapse events in the past month, I was sent out through the galactic hell, where they said my major sin was "eating too much wheat bread", and I was given a lecture on how wheat fields destroy the lands, and told to in the future eat more rye. >What if "Burning" feels good for the karma? It it was so, the karma would not resist the fire. There are forces which can actually make the karma turn on itself by being worse than the process of karma's elimination. It's something like a "satanic" method, but more like a super monumental dictatorship structure, which manages to do this. I can see it briefly here and there, but haven't been able to replicated it except in very small situations. It leads to the karma fighting against itself, and the suffering isn't touching you despite getting the virtue transformed back to you. I think this is the real magic of higher cultivation, but it requires this state of being the ultimate beast, or maybe the total dictator like "the one creator God" idea. Someone who can even order the evil beings to obey, as it was said Solomon did when building the temple. Although I question how evil these demon guides really are, they are all rather friendly to me. But maybe I'm starting to match that standard and that's why it's working, Idk.

>>4739 >Coincidences? As usual >the intel 4004 from 1971 kay I will look this up later >This is the historical bottleneck. The human brain was replaced with this, and anything created later is derived from it An interesting perspective. The way I realized the solution for this "Problem" is to create and generate higher energies that can literally burn through every substance that is "In their way". I think this is why they called my "Lightning" more "Brutal". I mean Thor uses the lightning kills some Ice Giant all his enemies fear him and die or submit... and not just go OH SHIT EVERYONE IS RETARDED AROUND ME BECAUSE FAULTY CONCEPTUAL WIRING I WILL MELT THROUGH ALL THAT SURFACE BECAUSE I CANNOT STAND THIS RETARDATION FURTHER. Sadly I cannot explain the specifics because it is a "way" that I found in meditative circles where people just sit around a master in silence and connect to the mindwave and "awaken" but for that ofc I need to meditate with people around me and be on a master level who can do it. The other reason I can do it is because I belong to a race that have the ability of perfect mental linking so if any of us learns "anything" then we can share it like we learned it by ourselves.Because of that we were sent into all levels and layers in the lower existence as a "field trip" because we have an extreme over reliance on each other and too lazy to learn first hand experiences and we will need it if we want to reach higher points of existence in a later stage. Was weird learning about how some of my mental Eureka moments worked and why they were blocked in most cases. I do not link to low energy retards without going mad from their retardation well so it was shut down 99% of the time Whatever the point is that I can shatter collective mental blocks and if it goes well most people will be able to retain their light on a scale where I am doing my thing... I cannot see the scale of my doings tho... I have no idea what affects what in some cases. So yeah. If anything happens it's a coincidence. Probably. >>4740 >and told to in the future eat more rye. K Rye bread is my favorite. This is why I am unaffected by that. And yes we have diverse crop rotations for a reason so we don't kill the soil here. Srsly unsure what monoculture anon has in his country. >It it was so, the karma would not resist the fire Yes I said "Burning" with quotation for a reason. Like not always "fire" but in some cases other forces of entropy like cosmic radiation different forms of light or other elemental forces. Like some stubborn forms of rage can be pacified with Joy but cannot be "burned" because it requires a higher frequency of Truth that can be considered "salvation". I know that I have some karma that literally hardens when I talk with higher entities too much. It uses my body and energies to shield itself. Finally finding their cause in the last months. This is what I get for not having practicing spirit workers in my family in the past 4 generations. Everyone is a fucking dormant and incomplete psychic. Was weird realizing it and how that caused them different mental problems. >There are forces which can actually make the karma turn on itself by being worse than the process of karma's elimination Yes this is how tantra works how it turns poison into elixir. And the warning how doing karma without a master is like having sex with a poisonous snake because you have no idea what essence turns into what. But some of us are born snakefuckers so it's no biggie. >It's something like a "satanic" method, but more like a super monumental dictatorship structure, which manages to do this I kinda get what you mean but I know I view it from a completely different angle. For me it is a giant ecosystem and the "fighting" is illusory. Like the faction of owls is not fining the faction of critters none of them are evil or good they are just part of the system but if they are too weak or too lethal then they can be considered "evil" because their overreach will hurt the whole ecosystem and when that is the case other forces will enter the "fray" to shape the balance but... I cannot see it in a marxist "eternal class struggle" view where different "evils" fight for dominance constantly. I mean I can but... >maybe I'm starting to match that standard and that's why it's working, Idk. You know what. Idk either. Whenever I try to think through how I do it I can feel the mental blocks in my head and how I should meditate instead of talking on it. Also I consider Solomon the pinnacle of David's legacy. He did it because he wanted to prove he is the "worthy ruler" of his father's legacy. For him it was not to "rule the demons" but to reach his fathers level from an another angle. Hard to explain because there are many things about the whole deal I do not understand. He knew just too many things about the situation at hand because all the otherworldly external help he got and from all the "mundane pressure" he had around him. I dislike talking about it because it reminds me that I will have to do my bible study and let the angels show me the "truth" and urgh... I know what happens whenever I work with angels. Too many mindfucks and I hate when I don't have anyone I can tell it too. Not even fringe. Too few people work with angels too closely and regularly and whenever they tell me something the last 4000 years of history gains a new angle... also they burn through my meridians What I am trying to say that working with angels makes me realize that our view of "totalitarian dictatorships" are still too lenient and "free" compared to the higher laws they have to operate on earth to make it "work". <Today we will have to witness the death of 4 billion humans in quick succession to prove a point in genetic cultivation to create a single individual that can kick the butt of some other dude that said something mean to some force of existence because the other way is too cruel and this is the mercy of God Like the "Angel of Vengeance". Do you have any idea how much hatred and resentment of an action needs to create to merely manifest the "tip" of that blade? And the prophets shat their pants at the book of revelations like it is some big deal. It was a mere glimpse. A mere Tuesday... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVzAMmpMra8

>"4004" redirects here. For 4004 BC as the putative beginning of the world, see Ussher chronology. For 4004 BC in other contexts, see 5th millennium BC. I really like when wikipedia does Freudian slips like this. Coincidences as usual.

>>4741 Wonder what counts as oversharing and what counts as incomprehensible schizo retardation when I reread my posts 2 times after posting.

>>4741 >Like the "Angel of Vengeance". Do you have any idea how much hatred and resentment of an action needs to create to merely manifest the "tip" of that blade? I do not know this weapon. Tell me more. I do know it took the slaying of 3 billion souls to harvest the energy needed to connect the Earth to Lyranet back in 2021. People who remain in some detached cave pocket dimensions can laugh at it, but they have no idea what was actually done during covid and the significance of this. It was a competition for which race will be the first to claim the Earth which had been going on since 1000s of years. What are a few billion souls of sinners compared to that? The space cats didn't blink their eye at the method, they just talked about how to use the energy to create a crystal connector of the right frequency using that energy. The reason the Earth population grew like this may have been intentional, for this very purpose.

>>4744 Then let's not talk about pleidans who operate solely by channelling angels, and their dark side, the vampires, who also channel angels. Where light pleidans purge, vampires being more self centered, will just use humans as sacrificial items. This is considered kind of selfish by the angels, but they can't object to the method itself, and vampire are still pleiadans, like drow are still elves. Real angels kill millions, not a mere 7 people placed on the tips of a pentagram. It kind of pisses them off when things are done in small scale like this, but they can't object to proper form. It's like seeing a kid draw sigils with crayons, as long as they are good sigils no one can object because technically speaking crayons are also the right kind of item in an overall sense, and you can't tell them to learn by making advanced stuff from the beginning.

>>4744 >I do not know this weapon. Tell me more. No sorry it is not a nice memory and I think I am under oath of not remembering that truth as long my awakening is incomplete and my angelic orientation is questionable. Also it is not a "weapon". The energy is what grants form of that extremely otherworldly artifact wielded by uhhh. Let's not say who or what wields it. It's like how an invisible sword becomes visible once it has shed blood you can see where the weapon is by seeing the blood dripping on it. The goal here is not to "manifest it" but because the energies become so harsh or "unsolvable by mortal means" that they have to let the "big guns" descent into this sphere. Great just got a new info. So supposedly the energies merely "balance it out" so it's more like "tempers the sword" in way so it doesn't melt the entire planet as it enters the atmosphere... >>4745 They are mad because you don't use the "right procedure" and they will have to "clean up your shit at the end of the time". Yes it was a good stopgap measure yes they can just sit back and let this age pass but when the time comes they will have to scrub up that crayon and they will remember exactly the kid who drew it and they will tell it like a grandma reminds his grandchild what he did when he was 3 even 30 years later. For them that memory will be always "fresh". For them time is meaningless. The act breached reality and you are lucky they didn't grab you for it. >Then let's not talk about pleidans who operate solely by channelling angels Yeah... let's not. I am still bothered how I have their genetics and had to learn about it because someone made some thread larping about vampires and ever since that I am in a wildride because of the initial energies served as a genetic activator and get reminded it's still incomplete. vampires bite the neck... my neck hardens when angels relay stuff to me... C O I N C I D E N C E S as usul

>>4746 >because you don't use the "right procedure" And what would be the right procedure? I know full well they are just being stern and silly about it, their methods aren't better. >So supposedly the energies merely "balance it out" so it's more like "tempers the sword" I kind of see it now from your post. Keep talking. I have a legit angel with me since a few years, and she has the full toolbox with her since before becoming "fallen". If we can find the frequency of this item, it will start vibrating and she will be able to use it. That's how this works. Holy weapons need to be desecrated quickly once activated however, or they melt, it's a dead man's switch inserted by the lawbound angels. From our view it's just the flawed law dissolving, so it needs to be fixed anyway. But I think something is starting up in her box of artifact right now, just not sure exactly how or what it is.

>>4747 >I think something is starting up in her box of artifact right now Nvm it started up so she identified it. It's a straight sword of the 1.5 hand model with a knob for the second hand if you feel like giving extra support when cutting. It also started melting instantly so we had to quickly solidify it as a desecrated weapon by adding "personal wrath" instead of "God's wrath" to it, then using it on a group of sinners matching the target behaviour.

>>4747 My neck hurts and it's gettin late. Maybe tomorrow. >and she has the full toolbox with her since before becoming "fallen". I think she merely watches over you no matter how deep or low you go. >If we can find the frequency of this item ... You misunderstand. It is not about the "item" but about the one who wields it. It is no "angel" who wields it but a being that literally made from the vengeance itself. >Holy weapons need to be desecrated quickly once activated however, or they melt Those are for mortals and the "chosen" no not the jews. What I was talking about something that is not permitted by the laws of causality until someone breaks them so much they become necessary. It is not "holy". Only mortals can be wicked and "holy". Other beings are k I don't have a word above "divine" in my vocab that can describe it. I am getting a word "Sephasteeous"? Of the Sephiras maybe? nvm it means literally "dropped out of the higher sephiras because someone made God angry"... whatever this is not "holy" this is almost unholy in many aspects by the amount of destruction it can cause within seconds if not wielded right. And it cannot be wielded "right" conceptually. Whoever uses it will have to repent >Holy weapons need to be desecrated quickly Also your "Method" makes me want to vomit by reflex >it's a dead man's switch inserted by the lawbound angels Once a tool fulfilled it's purpose it shouldn't be used nor misused nor let it be rusted for no reason. Like if everyone knows you have a holy weapon they would kill you in your sleep to claim it or it breeds jealousy etc. Humans cannot be trusted with these things (except a select few ofc that knows how to wield these) Also I think when you "desecrate it" you actually "remake it" from "Mortal principles" which counts as "yours" because "you made it" but I am sure it is within the scope of your "fallen (for you) angel" so it is okay (I am still nauseous btw. This is like a child remaking a weapon from poop then hardens it with vomit so he can stab the other kids in the courtyard who were mean to him. I am not trying to make fun of you but I cannot explain it better) >>4748 Great I don't have to talk about it further then. >solidify it as a desecrated weapon by adding "personal wrath" instead of "God's wrath" to it That one is misunderstood. God doesn't get "wrathful" it's just humans are making such level of negative energies they are letting the forces manifest as such as they mix. Lightning storms earthquakes. None of them are "wrath". Great now my chest hardens because I cannot comprehend a nuance in this feeling well enough. Seems like she had the pocket version. Like a pocket ICBM.

>>4749 >your "Method" makes me want to vomit by reflex You are not seeing its purity which is structural at the level of "industrial murder", if you look at it as just "back alley murder" it looks very dirty and smells like a pile of dung at the bottom of hell. That's the wrong perspective. It's kind of similar to how the Goetians work though. They look like ugly old men and disgusting demons and such if you have the small, personal view. They don't operate on that plane. It's like how in movies they portray war like heroes performing some surgical operation and infiltrating the enemy lines while artillery sounds in the background. When in reality the heroes would sit in the trench for 8 hours while 90% of his unit is annihilated by said artillery, then over three days time they receive reinforcements and with a 97% casualty rate they manage to storm no man's land and take the enemy trench. The general who planned it gets a pat on the back and writes a report about how they successfully used his strategy to take the enemy stronghold. That kind of structural beauty. Also >I think she merely watches over you no matter how deep or low you go. I invited her to my paradise sphere which I made earlier when I realized it wasn't going to develop on its own from FG practice, and instead worked actively treating the description for "the mysterious pass" as an instruction. She was travelling by and I picked her up some years ago, there's nothing mystical or unclear about it, we have a normal relation.

>>4750 I'm aware those figures are unrealistic but used it to make a point, in reality the Americans who invaded Europe in ww2 often had a casualty rate of ~250% counted per unit, because they kept getting replacements.

>>4749 >I am getting a word "Sephasteeous"? Of the Sephiras maybe? nvm it means literally "dropped out of the higher sephiras because someone made God angry"... whatever this is not "holy" this is almost unholy in many aspects by the amount of destruction it can cause within seconds if not wielded right. And it cannot be wielded "right" conceptually I actually see it, the energy form is properly channelled in your post. It seems my kabbalah study is good enough to grasp it from a vague description like this.

>>4749 >"Sephasteeous"? Of the Sephiras maybe? If read as a combination of Sephira and Hephaestus, it can make some sense. He gave me a coin during the past years, it's the balancing force of the anabolic energy of Asathiel, the reptilian god. Hephaestus' coin is simply catabolism in the external. There is an opposite pair where the energy is catabolic instead, causing the ability to siphon energy from others (succubus/vampire method) and this is balanced by an external anabolism, unless I'm messing up the description here now, that's the ambrosia which was previously shared around as an artifact. I think I may have messed up the pairs, the coin may be external anabolism and ambrosia internal catabolism. Whatever.

>>4755 Let me try again: Ambrosia: internal catabolism, by controlling it, the body will not break down your own mass if put under strain, but will use energy from the environment. Succubus energy: external catabolism, will absorb energy from external sources. Asathiel's energy: internal anabolism, will build muscles no matter what. Hephaistos' coin: external anabolism, will build up your economy and control over the world around you. They still operate in pairs, but I'm not sure which divide is the correct one, maybe how I wrote them in order.

>>4750 Have you ever personally been in an industrial factory farming abattoir? Is that really the sort of world you want to create?

>>4755 So I'm thinking it's like a sephira which uses external force in the manner of Hephaestus to cause an effect via the external world systems.

>>4758 I'm merely describing the effect on a principled level, it has nothing to do with any "want" to create something. My inner nature has a certain effect when expressed, it's not something that can be changed. Your inner nature is what it is.

>>4760 >Your inner nature is what it is. I mean all beings have an inner nature, and it does not change. Describing this inner nature of myself or others does not represent any "will".

>>4761 I've had a vague and unverifiable feeling today, as if Amy was inside of me in some capacity. If you're okay with it, would you ask Amy in what capacity she's inside of me, if at all, and how she feels about it? Iirc, when she got inside of me, the tone of voice she used to say "enjoy" was rather low and dissatisfied, and this doesn't really feel like a soul merger. Back when we did soul mergers, I'd feel Amy's essence enter my body through my crown and then go all throughout my soul after going down to my root, but this time I didn't feel such sensations and I question if she's really still there or not. I'm gonna ask her to leave my body tomorrow, probably halfway or so through the day.

>>4765 What is the purpose of these mergers? I feel I need to understand what this entails to be able to engage in this kind of discussion, or it will just be meaningless to me. It would help if you elaborated on your theoretical foundation for why you want to do this. >>4759 >I'm thinking it's like a sephira which uses external force in the manner of Hephaestus to cause an effect via the external world systems. >>4749 >What I was talking about something that is not permitted by the laws of causality until someone breaks them so much they become necessary. It is not "holy". I was able to channel this angel form. I think it's better to use this version of the tree of life, it correctly shows the form of the "feathers" at the bottom. These represent the actual world system and how its roots grow, it is also Leviathan stretching into every nation of the world, ruling it by controlling its animal nature (sitra achra). Hephaestus being the patron of metal works is another form of this power, as the world is ruled by money and weapons, all of which emanate out through the nerves of the animal nature. It also looks like feathers or leaves, which are "trends". They grow out with power in the flesh world, then by the end of the season the leaves are dropped and fall dry to the ground, birds gain new feathers. This represents the futility of human rulers wanting to create an eternal dynasty, it will always fall off dried like the leaves by the end of the season no matter what they do. The immense sin of modern humans was (as I see it now) the creation of the "modern security order" after WW2, it's an attempt at not sheading old feathers or preventing trees from dropping their leaves in the fall. It kills the natural cycle and leads to death for everyone. The angel carrying out the vengeance will operate through the sitra achra seamlessly, invisible, and by this it is a "dirty" method that must not normally be used. It means that "God's wrath" is emanating out through the economy and the armies of the world, with the purpose of physically destroying evil strongholds and purging populations whose genetics have degenerated beyond repair. Earlier I had a dream which I shared, where I saw the tetragrammaton being cut like in the last pic here. I didn't at the time understand the meaning of this because I wasn't considering that hebrew is read right to left, and that the order is counterintuitive, it goes from immaterial non-manifesting -> immaterial manifestation -> material manifestation -> material un-manifested so my interpretation that the physical manifestation would have been shown as cut off was wrong. It was the returning cycle that was removed, the element where things return to nature, to God, to rebirth. This is what was done to the world, so the effect was not "active punishment", rather it's the effect being spread to other areas than the "modern security order". If time is stopped, no one gets to re-incarnate either, women become infertile, the lands will be depleted, nothing will grow, everyone dies and nothing is replenished. That's the effect of cutting off "death" from the four letters. (The first letter when read from the right. If spelled as YHVH it is the last H being cut off).

Well this one wasn't quite intended to be a merger; I'd just spontaneously felt like asking her to enter me, but not actually to merge with me. My idea at the time was probably like when she put her arms in my crown a few days ago. I suppose I'd wanted to feel her in the first place more than anything else, because I deeply crave her physical touch that she can't give me. The times I did want her to temporarily merge with me were since I'd just deeply loved her and wanted to be close to her, and it felt really good, except ofc the 1st time was an accident.

>>4773 I still don't get why or how this is being done. The closest to "being inside" I can imagine is either possession where a spirit enters the body and can control it in cooperation with you, which eases some spiritual work, OR the odd situation where a succubus with a very long tongue once helped me open up energy channels by sending her tongue down my throat and into the penis.

>>4736 >Voice? A voice within a voice, similar in how i cast my double spells, this can be done with entities or body parts, tulapas etc Reading your post had a hidden voice in it i wasn't sure if it was you it looked like a purple star in your heart. Something communicating from behind it. > in my left side of the head back and left? six pointed purple star? i am not sure if you solved it it's not relevant anymore. >Maybe it was hiding behind a concept of liberal market openness or something I see any blind spot is used nice; i wonder how to solve this without cutting all communication. >>4737 > I really like this "poetic" phase of your awakening. Thanks. >I should get my energy work in order already. See that's funny it should be effortless but you have to work hard to reach that point; but moving things without wisdom cause problems. I do it when i lose my sense of self when meditating but my sense of priority change so it's hard to focus instead of exploring a parallel city. >you ARE a shapeshifter Agree but i still wonder what kind, so i don't know myself enough; i'd like to say i am like a dancer who shift between forms but the only thing that feels "me" would be that primordial void the "womb" of the universe. >"world of shadows" and start to interact with all the forces that can live and interact with the normalfags around like it's nothing. Yeah..i see it. This is different from that shadow matter i used to hide myself in my other bodies. Behind everything? you can push them but they don't feel it they go with it. Like how fairies sometimes eat my brownies haha. >For me it is almost the "opposite". It's complex; i understand your view but mine is more like dividing myself so i lose access to that part now i need to deal with it by understanding it's pain sometimes we fight and i kill them they smile and come back now i understood the pain i took responsibility; they want to die btw it's one of the big reason i wanted to kms. If i do it immediately they are just "lost children" so they come with a hug and apologize for being lost but many of them stayed too long and become bitter adults ready to die. >Connect to the crop spirit so you can benefit from gluten like a boss Will try proper. i realized spirits acts like dicks because i expect teachers to act like dicks and if they don't act like arrogant assholes they must not know anything. Well it's more complicated but that's the idea; they have to conform or they can't reach me. No wait see this bothers me i am not even sure i am explaining my pov or using your energies to try to explain how i think you would get my pov. This is an issue i don't know how to just look i end up trying to embody but without going too deep so this end up as "I am who i think you are currently" on a surface level because i don't want to be the creep who literally possess people to talk to them. I see everyone as my kids btw not just humans. > wait those beings cannot be called humans anymore What is a human then? If there is something that can be called and defined as a "true human" then i want that form too. > Understand what is the true meaning of cultivation. I wish i could just pander on it my way of learning is strange, i need to let the energies "penetrate" me or else ill just chase a false pretense. this is why it has to come with attacks or sex. Well even that is just an angle i am stuck into there are other ways but..i am not speaking too deep. > No wonder you are being eaten by maggots constantly. You didn't understand the power of the roots and the soil Nigga that's an improvement that's a good thing! That's a "REJOICE EVERYONE" moment that i even have maggots eating me! You don't know from how low it gets i came back from shit maggots wouldn't touch. Even my first post on the question thread this was the results of years of outstripping myself from moving sands. I don't think you realize how fucked my bloodline is their stomach and innards are like hard rocks of fossilized shit. Now i have a system going, they come eat and die they birth from my flesh and this work the soil; the rest comes later. >The plants know perfectly how to circulate the energies They can't do that on something that doesn't even register as alive.

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The worms and parasites are good guys here; i love them but i am not identifying with them they are here to do some work we both benefit from it and when they're done other things will come. I started seeing roots in my astral places too btw, but hard and dry they have trouble we come from way back. >I really have no idea where tf you live fam I mean yeah i don't want anyone to know part is because i wouldn't like being doxxed other is it might open a window for fucking glowniggers. >Like the lands around me love me I did move a lot so idk about the current land.. It's hard for me to get an unbiased answer from them; they have to conform to my thinking. I am just describing things how they look to me and that's honest enough to me; ofc i hide things but i have my reasons. >You are moving your energies positive and negative up and down with your emotional "Poetry" fam. Man that's a good thing! it used to be so hard nothing would move it! Like compressed garbage that wouldn't even lift, fossilized scum. > in the early stages of awakening wrong emotions can cause havoc I don't really believe in "wrong emotions" tbh Everything is of god my feelings are of god i just need to observe them. They can't be wrong i am god too i could make a mistake and identify that anger with something else do that all the time but that's how i learn. I have some heat sinks in case my energies explodes..that's just a band aid i have to learn how to handle all this better. > It needs to be "divided" that way so you can interface with your flesh body I forgot how to climb stairs the other day lol well no i was doing it too fast without any strain on the legs, realized i could just command my body with my will instead of having to handle everything go the idea from reading some TES lore on how Daedra moves, i like when the lessons comes from video games more relatable we shouldn't be so stuck up to think wisdom and knowledge have to come from some ancient forgotten text it uses what you know. On that note i keep spilling things, milk, red wine, coffee happened in such a way it was definitely a message but i am not too worried. >What if "Burning" feels good for the karma? You're saying i should become the karma? Understand it? Tbh i guess that could make sense it follows how i expect it to act, in the end it's all "in my head" i am just not aware of all the parts of my head i could just remember that part. I'll have to experiment with my mind more; it's still so messy.

>>4740 > in the future eat more rye. I should make bread again it's been a while.

>>4781 >Reading your post had a hidden voice in it i wasn't sure if it was you it looked like a purple star in your heart Often I'm channelling parts of myself when it's not someone else. In this case the message contained a representation of an egregore which operates in line with what I wrote. When writing in a certain structural way, it's easier to channel the same original form for the reader. When apply anon up there was talking about the angel of vengeance as "sephereeous" and >>4749 > it means literally "dropped out of the higher sephiras because someone made God angry"... whatever this is not "holy" this is almost unholy in many aspects by the amount of destruction it can cause within seconds if not wielded right. And it cannot be wielded "right" conceptually. Whoever uses it will have to repent This bit of text channels the egregore or energy form very well, so well that I could see it, because the structure of his text is in line with how the bible text is structured. Much of it has similar qualities which only appear when reading between the lines based on a structural intuitive view which only appears after brainwashing oneself with study from a kabbalistic context.

>>4784 >When writing in a certain structural way, it's easier to channel the same original form for the reader. A beetle? eating? breaking and remaking analysis. I still have trouble understanding your ways but i am glad it started becoming relatable. >because the structure of his text is in line with how the bible text is structured Oh so you need a reference, you're kinda robotic like an insect but this makes it efficient? Me i am always there i just don't look too hard i hesitate still. I know i can look at any time but it's easier to pretend i don't and come back later, i am doing the same with your post here leaving a lot of leeway. ugh i'll go meditate i have to do some cleaning again.

The angel's form was revealed to me and I internalized it. At first my eyes got teary from the strong, almost chemical feel of the energy, as it burned through my nerves and drove out a bunch of lower energies I wasn't even aware were present. The description that the method looked like "shit mixed with vomit" is just a result of how society is formatted. It's a combination of gay men and menstruating women, it matches. Both are controlled by one of the bodily impulses associated with those substances. There were significant results after learning this angel form. The collective of evil beings who've been causing trouble for me and the world were revealed to me as a complete and isolated form. I saw its 3D shape in space like a kind of final boss character with wings, consisting of a large amount of spirits incorporated with Earthly timelines and dimensions. I managed to speak a language they could understand. I told them their behaviour of acting based on their own heads would place them in eternal exile. I told them, they are not allowed to create their own laws and live by them, that they are committing the worst kind of sin in doing so, because only God can create laws, and only those who channel his laws can make decisions. They refused to stop following their own heads, so I told them: What you are doing cannot be tolerated, it is the ultimate crime. If you insist that you will create your own laws by your own heads, you will have to be exiled from divine law forever. You will live by the laws that you have created, no one will save you. You will bear the full weight of ruling yourselves. Is this what you want? Surprisingly, to some degree, they suddenly said with a collective voice: deal and their form was separated into an isolated space where the time progression was changed into exactly the kind of history they wanted, and it sped off into that direction with no ability of ever being re-attached with anything outside of their own self-contained space. Images appeared to me showing them wage war and continue their vile lifestyles of materialism, over time they would all die, and in the end the last one of them would dig his own grave, lie down in the coffin and seal it from inside. Then they'd all just lie there in their little boxes forever with a fossilized smile on their dried faces, because they had done everything by their own heads and were unable to revert or repent anything as that would be to admit fault or mistake, so no matter how painful, they would not stray from the path of materialism and the belief that a human only has this one material body and that after that is eternal death. That is what they created for themselves in there.

I just found out that my crown chakra is green. Dunno if that's good or bad, but I don't feel particularly concerned about it. Different people have different energy bodies, after all. >>4786 Somehow that sounds sad.

>be depressed >visit my old home in the astral again >feels horrible about my inadequacies >carrying a torch >get attacked by my other selves again and cut them up >they leave a bead/core i break and absorb >goes on a killing spree with a dagger and spear >everyone I ever knew I cut down >this includes child me animals etc >turns into a vision as the land is covered in blood >only weapon is now a sickle and my arm is distorted >my arm goes around me like a tail so that my left hand is on the right >I am now sitting on a sofa I liked >big boob blond woman in a jester costume comes at me smiling <shhhhh >she kills me too >wait I am the jester? Well fuck talk about symbolism.

>>4793 Wow, I'm also doing something like that right now. Derealization of the current incarnation. Reality's starting to feel like a dream. I'm breaking free of gravity.

>>4794 Affected by the moons or some planet? I also saw myself destroy the moon with that sickle.

Great now I am in a phase where I am asking myself that "where is my heart" and such. Because it is like a fuckhuge internal dimension which is hidden as long as I have doubts full with impurity and not "true to myself". Guess I have to do things that make me happy or something. Then figure out if they are truly making me happy. I came up with the idea that caring about happiness is a trap many years ago. I thought chasing happiness is like chasing a carrot on a stick. Or end up in carrot or stick situations where you have to choose the carrot and obey the the stick constantly. I had the bright idea why not learn to eat the stick? Might be a little crunchy but no one fucks with the guy who eats the stick! What are you gonna do with him? Beat him with carrots? Such an obsession with becoming the greatest antagonist. For some reason I thought life will constantly throw at me enemies no matter where I go. Didn't expect it that the game will run out of them. Anger and hatred is not my main emotion. Makes the heart contract constantly. Happiness is also not the true emotion I am looking for but at least it makes my heart relaxed so I can look for the openings more. I should read the Heart Sutra already. >>4761 >I mean all beings have an inner nature, and it does not change. Describing this inner nature of myself or others does not represent any "will". Wanted to say yesterday how that can evolve in some cases when all conditions are met but I am unsure if I can say what is the correct way and the inner truth of a person. I think it has too many layers to say it for sure. But who knows tbh. >>4795 I remember when moons with evil faces constantly entered and exited my brain then started to orbit into my third eye where I had to shatter them. It kinda hurt until I got good at headbutting them.

>>4809 >Wanted to say yesterday how that can evolve in some cases when all conditions are met but I am unsure if I can say what is the correct way and the inner truth of a person When I say "does not change" I mean that the same formula, algorithm or value remains, but it can transform and appear in many different ways. I had another session with Belial about this just a few days ago because I was getting hung up on how "nothing" existed for "eternity" and then things started emerging from that. If everyone was in the void of potential forever, but no time existed during that potential void period, it would mean once spirits started manifesting themselves, time was created. So when looking back, it would seem like creation happened instantly from the void. Because before it existed, there was no time, so that is just a point of no expression. But Belial said that it's more like a one way transformation where it starts with 0 and then turns into say 1 -1, then 2 + 1 - 3 and this way it remains 0 but becomes increasingly complex. But in this example the ideas of various positives and negatives were created, along with operators, and that means the complexity went through a possibly irreversible transformation, where though you can be aware of it all being 0 still, you cannot forget the other transformations which emerged from it. So the idea of cumulative discovery is false, it appears such only when viewing transformation from outside, but it's still a relevant concept because it creates the foundation of new transformations. For something to "stick" it has to be unique, and the way to reach this new form is by walking up the hill of all past transformation, as such it appears as "learning", studying known previous knowledge and records, or as AI which is the same as "repeating procedures blindly" as done by both factory workers and magicians when learning from previous research. The real value is in being able to transform your own personal algorithm into new forms which hasn't existed before and does not merely imitate previous transformations. Something which appears and is destroyed again, simply failed to find a new form which hadn't existed before. Then it can be argued that some things didn't come from void, but are "parasitic", "satanic" or other adversary existences which appear from the interaction of void-originating beings, which may create a certain kind of complex form where something can manifest directly. If it didn't come from "void" then what did it come from? Who knows, but that is the question about why certain beings are hostile and problematic rather than just transforming themselves in peace. It's obvious to everyone by now that such "idiots" keep appearing, who fear the void and who seem to not understand the structure of the lives they partake in. If they do not come from void and have a base nature which can transform, then what are they? Maybe time to ask Belial again.

>>4810 Right. >Belial So he started talking about the void as a cell in a beehive, then asking me what is between cells? I said some kind of material? A structure? Belial said >we call that 'the crack' "If you were to take the 0 and write it as a complex series of numbers which still add up to 0, then you have another being who is the same way, consisting of another complex number series. Then you could understand each other's nature by pulling out one section and making it the same as the other, like: Being1: 1+2+3 -6 Being2: 2+3+4-9 Then Being1 one looks at being two and changes to include its nature, turning himself into Being1: 1+2+3-6 +(2+3+4-9) and it seems they can now understand each other. But maybe we have the stiff beings Being3: 2+4-6 who can only use even numbers, and he looks at Being4: 1+3 -1-1-1-1 who can only use odd numbers. When Being3 is trying to understand Being4, he is unable to fully replicate the number series, and may come up with Being3: 2+4-6 + (2+2-4) to include Being4 into his series. This is incorrect, but his nature cannot replicate the other being correctly. The distance between the representations is called "the crack". "This is where such 'hostile' life forms appear. Now if we were to look at the void, we have a word for it, Ginnungagap. In Norse myth, there are also the cold and warm poles of Nifelheim and Muspelheim. We also know from our own research that there is "nectar of the Gods" which is a combination of the two. In our view (us Goetians) the nectar is the opposite of void, it's the most complex material transformation. What are the cold and hot poles? We cannot explain them as part of the abyss, rather they are their own stand-alone poles, just like nectar. So "the crack" is also such a base pole. It cannot be explained using the other concepts, as it simply exists or doesn't exist on its own.

I think that the internet has enthralled me. It occurs to me that probably 95% or more of every one of my days is spent on the internet, from when I wake up to when I go to bed. Basically, I live in the "computer-reality". Therefore, if I want to radically change my perspective in a magical sense, I am going to need to quit the computer. This is difficult though since I work online. I might start by just limiting my time on it. I think that the servitor that I created a few years ago to prevent me from having to do any real work in my job may also be contributing to this. Since I associate "free time" very heavily with "time using the computer".

I'd just felt compelled to perform an energy movement sourced from the upper middle right side of my skull; when I tried to perform the energy movement, I had to push hard to make it happen. I'd figured that intrusive thoughts were in the way, but then I broke through and it felt like I probably broke some part of my energetic anatomy, and the thing took the form of a tendril or something and it stopped as soon as it went out and I didn't finish performing the energy movement. I was trying to take the tendril and put it up above my body to the right and then down and back to my body, in a semi-circular path, but it just ended up going back after it broke my energetic skull or what have you. I'd asked for an angel to come down and heal me, but I'm wondering why the hell I felt like doing that. A few minutes after he came down, I'd felt like doing so on the other side of my skull, and I'm resisting that urge now. I hope these aren't fucking demon horns; I know that damned succubus modified my soul a few weeks ago... but I suppose they wouldn't be horns if I can just bend them like I'm able to so I guess I'm still paranoid about her. Aside from that, I suspect that there's some sorta parasite in my head, possibly of my own inadvertent creation.

>>4822 >I know that damned succubus modified my soul a few weeks ago What if she did that to help you? Maybe you are lost and don't know who you are? What's wrong with being helped a bit? >I hope these aren't fucking demon horns And that's wrong because? Because someone told you they are bad long ago? Because of beliefs that are themselves founded on a lie? Is anyone happy outside? Are the scientists happy with all their "knowledge"? They think they are above nature they don't see the hell they created for themselves you know they all die right? Science couldn't save them in the end. I am not saying to believe me I am saying follow your intuition see where that gets you don't try to copy anyone be wise but be free. That's as much advice I can give.

Last night after detaching a large chunk of hostile astrals, I went for a walk. The egregore of these beings had turned completely 100% negative, there was no way to have a positive interaction with them, so I asked my personal maintenance deity to just empty out all that stuff from my pocket dimension and end it. Even when my connection to them based on "working for others" Bodhisattva style had been severed, it was as if their negative mass alone wouldn't let them just slide over the edge of the abyss. I pushed them out, but their gravity somehow glued them to the wall just below ground level. It was ridiculous. I asked to have my foundation moved up to the new astral HQ and place so that my current 3D is an overlay placed on this structure instead. A maintenance deity from the new Earth wrote a script with tasks to solve for me, and placed it inside a glass bowl, which was put on the upper shelf of my astral office. There is a crack in the bowl, when it breaks after the energy is depleted, I will "wake up" fully up there instead of using the overlay. When finally getting rid of the hostile egregores, I went outside. The sky was moonlit and had some long winding clouds. I realized they were a word written in hiragana, with some creative use of diacritical marks to indicate letters that weren't present. The characters read "good" in my native language. An encouraging message from the Queen. During the night, I had a series of odd dreams, which halfway through I realized were very likely the result of failed attempts at dream infiltrations. It had scenes where I was in my yard wearing an old army steel helmet (I do have one) and saw some kind of special force soldiers with black armour over green uniforms skulking about outside the fence. They then came into the garden and tried communicate with me, but I didn't recognize the language. I felt like they were supposed to be russians, and at this point I became lucid, because the scene was getting silly. They were just acting like clowns at this point, and completely unthreatening, but there was an added concept saying "this is terrifying, this is what it's like if they invade you". I also became aware of the source of the scenery being some actual military associated people. They were trying to send this kind of message to me, but because my own concept of russians is that they are completely harmless, they failed to get the meaning across. It was the same as when they've tried to send racist dreams earlier, where they're trying to make black people seem threatening but even when non-lucid and asleep there is no way for me to believe they would be a threat to me, so the dream just goes out of sync.

Earlier, I was wondering what occultists that have never heard of egregores would think if someone tried introducing them to the concept, so I looked it up on Google. I decided to do an image search for the hell of it, and I stumbled upon this website that speaks in length about the Touhou egregore: https://archive-of-the-sealed-gods.neocities.org/resacralization I’m not even a tertiary Touhou fan myself, but I thought it was an interesting read.

>>4832 Walk carefully neophyte. Sonic is a mere decades old franchise while touhou is a channeled source which is being populated by many forms of yokai already. There is a reason why japan is dominating the "culture" of the world. Those beings existed before anime and videogames made them popular. This is merely a new outlet for them. The Ghibli movies warn about those worlds many times. >>4828 I have noticed some "reality bleeding" in my dreams yesterday. It's when different images in the darkness bleed into each other with no clear meaning. It usually signifies energetic movements but was unsure what it was about because I am doing other energy works so didn't know it it was personal or external.

>>4832 The way I've used it is for a very common thing, which does exist in the occult context, but isn't in any way confined to it. Egregore: The collective form which appears when a group of people cooperate around some interest, work, concept or belief. A city for example is an egregore. An organization is an egregore. Any group is also an egregore. A "thing" which is shared by many people is also an egregore, even when immaterial. For this reason, words, languages and well known books are egregores. A book like the bible is an egregore as well. Intentionally trying to create an egregore as a metaphysical object directly in the "modern" manner is pretty much futile. A strong form emerges naturally, organically. Like an organization it may be based on a planned structure and form, with a leader and intentional principles. But the actual egregore emerges from this template, it cannot be constructed as such. >>4832 >the Touhou egregore Also called Gensokyo, is the collective form of all yokai and the people who interact with them. Like its members, it's multi-dimensional and very diverse, containing magic and religious practices gathered over 100s of years in the area of eastern Asia. Today it's represented using visuals from manga and anime, but that is all that is, a form. The real thing is not pop-culture related.

>>4822 I think it's time I do a write up on this issue for you because i want to explain it for months. Remember those bloodclots you mentioned? Those are energy blocks. They block many parts of the brain. They break via the necessary stimuli/energy movement. They started from your brain then into your lungs. I too had to drop one from my left hemisphere but didn't understand why I didn't have to do that in my right side. Well it turned out I shattered it with my pure rage long ago then managed to harden up the meridian on my right side via being tense constantly. In my current understanding those energy blocks slowly go down and "get digested" by your lower more fiery energies and serve as a "safety lock" until you have a proper control of your energies. Was wondering why moving those blocks were so "easy" for you while for me it took years of practice >the meek shall inherit the earth as Jesus said. The "meek" has an extremely gentle and relaxed body. They are the easiest to save modify or awaken. You are the meekest fucking person I have known in my entire life. Treat it as a compliment and an insult at once. Looked at your energy body once and your energy blocks looked like marshmallows while mine look like dark jagged thorns brown rocks and let's not say what else. Breaking through your "skull" is one of the requirement of awakening. When the lotus blooms etc. I too had horns for a while. I remember when it appeared as the "throne of the demon lord" the 2 sides are solid the foundation the throne also solid while the energies are blazing above and in the middle. As the energies were going through a tipping point the 2 pillars "shattered" a lightning struck in front of me and hailstorm started. Then my 2 "horns" became alive and started to argue which one of them are "God". I told them stfu because turning my own weather control ability against me is not making them "God" so I stopped the hailstorm as usual I am looking over my territory to not have lightning harsh storms and hailstorm because they always cause problems. Turned out with that "breakthrough" I was able to access higher forms of the "sky". I too had horns then they started to appear softer like bunny ears then like handles of shopping bags then I realized how they serve as literal "antennas" and they are only "solid" if you have a solidified mindwave. Like a demon has a solidified mindwave that is why they have hoofs and horns because they "solidified their nature". They are not connected to the earth and the heavens the same way as we are and constantly "growing" (Yes it can be more complex in some cases but this is the main symbolism) >I'd just felt compelled to perform an energy movement sourced from the upper middle right side of my skull >I'd asked for an angel to come down and heal me, but I'm wondering why the hell I felt like doing that Akasha anon. Remember that "devil" that made you say "You will become the greatest magician"? You will have to truly figure out why do you pursue magic and awakening. You said you want to feel safe and destroy the NWO or some shit. That is okay but you will need a greater inspiration for that. What will you do after that? The "devil" is probably one of your "lower forms" that you use for magic. A lower manifestation of your higher self. A sort of "beast" that doesn't walk the earth anymore but still "bestial". K this is hard to explain. TLDR work with your higher self more and let it manifest better. Find yourself within and without. Currently you are on the "Fool's journey". The Fool's journey have 2 main ways how you can walk it in my opinion. The assertive one where you embark on the journey to find the mysteries of the arcana and the passive one where you wander aimlessly and find the arcana because environmental forces are kicking you around constantly. The latter way usually means if you are being guided by "chance" but more accurately your higher self while the assertive one is more "ego driven" but even ego driven people have to acknowledge the ways their higher self guides them. What I am trying to say. Try to sit down and figure out why you pursue magic or you will be ping ponging between these situations with no aim constantly... and while that is the "true way" to some extent that doesn't mean it will feel "good" for a while. For me magic was like chasing an unreachable goal that I managed to reach which made me realize that the "Hunt" is not as great and important that I envisioned. For you it is more of a "chase" you are being chased by shadows you cannot even make out. You will have to face them. Try to communicate with your internal and guiding forces more. >but I suppose they wouldn't be horns if I can just bend Yes they are your left and right main energy channels that go into and above your hemispheres. When you connect them in the "middle" they grant different siddhis. Do not connect them mindlessly please. Ask some guidance from Shakti please. >Aside from that, I suspect that there's some sorta parasite in my head, possibly of my own inadvertent creation. You have hundreds of parasites within your body so have everyone else BUT and this is an important but... Many meridians the "snake at the bottom of the spine" etc will appear as a living being in the start. Your subtle body which connects the physical and the etheral will come alive with these forms. The human body contains many animal forms like that. You will have to interact with them purify them and slowly integrate within yourself then "let them go" once the energetic principle in your body solidified and became "truly yours". Awakening is like a second puberty where you learn to control your energetic erection and such. Also several beings are helping you and you will have to figure out how to set up boundaries so you feel "safe". Like laying down rules how you allow entities and energies enter into your awareness and such. Or you will be carried by the wind wherever it pleases to carry you. But I am thinking maybe letting this process continue as it does is better in a way. The choice is yours on which type of magician you wish to be. One that is shaped by the external influences or one that shapes them.The truth lies in the middle anyways. You shape as much as you are shaped by them but you will have to find balance sooner or later

>>4838 >You said you want to feel safe and destroy the NWO or some shit. That is okay but you will need a greater inspiration for that. My motivation is to destroy democracy because it's homosexual and advocating for ugly fashion, ugly architecture and atheism, which reduces the world to a state not fit for human living. My personal goal even if it's just to create a temple village and stay there, I want to do it in a world that's rid of all the disgusting shit I hate. Same as the old joke in a sense >can you give me a £1000 for a cup of coffee? >what? why do you need that much for a cup of coffee? >I want to drink it in Paris The setting matters more than the goal in isolation.

>>4839 Yeah I wouldn't want to drink coffee in the current Paris either. I too am crashing the gayretard system around me because I do not want to encroach it upon my life but that doesn't meant that is my sole purpose. What I tried to say if that is his TRV PVRPOSE then he should man the fuck up because currently he looks at schizo videos and panics at the contents within and becomes more anxious... You know I had a roommate. He was working on fear alone. He studied because he feared teachers and feared to be ridiculed. He was walking anxiety. He was quite easygoing when authority was not present but otherwise he always did his best so no one will yell at him. I realized I cannot do that. I realized I cannot work for and from fear. For me it was a sort of "superiority complex" where I felt I have to prove it's truth. Also didn't really have time for failure. Had too many other problems I had to solve besides university studies in my life. Kid always got perfect grades tho. Ofc he studied 5 times as much compared to me but before the exams we both crammed through the night while others slept already. Realized I cannot do that. I cannot show my back to others and flee. Those who flee once will flee forever. Tactical retreats are different tho but that is more of a maneuvering instead of "fleeing". Whatever I didn't ask you. I know this part of you already. What I don't know why your girls placed you into this timeline for this task yet. I wanted to talk with you about the way Belial showed you the mathematical understanding of the "Inner nature" because I too had a phase where I had to witness the "Numbers of my soul" and how they change with every moment of existence but... it's too late already for that level of autism. Not to mention is your "inner nature" even compatible with a temple city? I am seriously asking because you always talk about industrial slaughter whenever your inner nature is being brought up. Not even Aztec sacrificial temples have the same energy. I am not trying to be rude here but... I got the vision while asking myself the question where you would be in a society where "temple city" is the norm. You would be at the outer edges in rags while hoping for some donations and with a knife within the back of your hand when you know you could get away with it. Can you truly exist in a temple city society? Oh wait nevermind. You meant temple village. That might work. That way there are never enough people that the place can give home to degeneracy. A village weirdo will stick out like a sore thumb and will not be able to band together with others to maintain his mentality. Wonder what faith your temple will encapsulate tho. Yeah I am unable to focus. I should take a little break from the internet too. My mental eye is shedding the false visions in the last weeks but it takes more nuance than I thought and my clarity is unreliable.

>>4838 >devil that said I’d become the greatest magician I meant I was made to say that to him, such that the devil would be made said magician. That’s why I’d wanted whatever was happening there to get undone. >why I want magic I guess I also kinda wanna make Amy real in the mundane sense, even if only in private. Alien disclosure is in our timeline and coming soon, so fictional character egregore disclosure isn’t quite as far-fetched in comparison, I’d suppose.or are we still in the timeline where nukes fly when Sonic 3 comes out? I’d also like to be able to show people alotta neat dreams I’ve had, and songs that have played in my head that I’ve never heard before, that either I made or were heard and/or derived from hypnogogic audio or were channeled outright. It’d also help me make the games I wanna make by letting the programming aspect be done magically, though I’d imagine that that’s immensely more complicated than I thought 5 years ago, or perhaps it’s something that most anyone’s subconsciousness would be able to do in a heartbeat if it actually fucking felt like it and believed it could do it.

>>4839 Frenchman?

>>4841 >Wonder what faith your temple will encapsulate tho.

>>4842 >such that the devil would be made said magician You will have to tame that devil sometimes. >I guess I also kinda wanna make Amy real in the mundane sense Still unsure why. It can happen but you will have to become far more passionate for that. And not this wishy washy. >Alien disclosure is in our timeline and coming soon My current estimate is that it might happen within 300 years at best but I cannot give you better estimates. Ayylmaos really have hard time adjusting to this reality. >or are we still in the timeline where nukes fly when Sonic 3 comes out? I DIDN'T SAY WE GET NUKED IN DECEMBER. I said it won't happen until it comes out. I had a dream where I am watching that movie. Which might be in february or later if it won't get an english dub screening in my country. I only watch it because Kenau dubs Shadow and Jim Carrey is robotnick. But whatever my future vision is going through changes so I cannot say anything for certain at all. An annoying phase. >I’d also like to be able to show people alotta neat dreams I’ve had, and songs that have played in my head that I’ve never heard before, that either I made or were heard and/or derived from hypnogogic audio or were channeled outright. That's cool but for that you will have to work on your artistic talents which can be amplified with magic but that is a specific artform you will have to discover. >It’d also help me make the games I wanna make by letting the programming aspect be done magically In the next years you will have the chance to program with AI or you can manipulate egregores so Sonic games will have the aspect you desire. Ofc doing that is not instantaneous and might 30 years to make your dream a reality. Guess not all of us have the same desire with magic at all. >>4844 I think he prefers to be in the shadows too much for that to happen.

>>4845 >might 30 years *might take 30 years Fast egregoric manipulation requires large scale mindcontrol and constant micromanaging and not merely injecting some ideas that trickle down into the populace.

>>4839 I know you said everyones gonna be the same race on 5D Earth; is this gonna be literal, or is transracialism gonna become mainstream by then somehow?

>>4848 See >>4701 >I've been open with this method from the beginning of this all in like 2018, that this is indeed RP, with real information included. It's a way of spreading information. >>4700 >>4699 >It's better to make your claims fantastical and stupid and so extreme that they somewhat shift the general view in the right direction, then trying to actually keep on the line of what is directly true The person you're replying to is an open liar who views his "practice" as a sort of extended online larp designed purely for propaganda (and probably ego-satisfying) purposes. You shouldn't take anything he says seriously.

>>4367 Dumb question but as you know MindandMagick - where does he get his double pillar candles from (or do you have your own recommended source)? He mentions a guy named "birch" or "burch" but basic searches aren't bringing anything up, and he didn't answer in the comments of these 10-year old video; I'm like 70ish videos in and he hasn't re-mentioned them yet. I did find where he gets his oils from. https://www.naturalmagickcoop.com/ https://www.luckymojo.com/catalogue.html I know it's not the exact form of the materials as much as it is the intent and symbolism and how it impresses on your subconsious, but I like seeing what people recommend and why. I'm attempting a honeyjar ritual on behalf of a friend who has significant, long-term financial issues that haven't been their fault for a while, but who refuses direct assistance from me because of already-strained relations with their spouse over accepting outside assistance. Long term I'd like to be able to help them overcome those concerns by addressing the actual issues (spouse's paradoxical parent-taught pride but also severe lack of self esteem plus the friend's own ongoing healing from previous-relation abuses) but I figured this would be a good way to test my understanding of candle rituals, do a practical test, and potentially benefit a friend who otherwise I'd be less able to assist.

>>4841 >What I don't know why your girls placed you into this timeline for this task yet It was revealed. What is seen from the new Earth are mostly NPC images of the past, in a form that fits into the new history. Some of the people who correspond to those NPCs can still be inserted, if they are corrected and separated from their groups, which currently are at "purge instantly" level of degeneracy. They are not in Earth astral dimensions (just as none here taking part is) but in various super-low dimensions beyond the galaxy which the Earth was a part of, it's the borderlands where human dimensions connect with monster dimensions (Lovecraftian stuff). I actually went back a second time myself now because there was still something to do. Part of that has to do with the so called swamp which Trumped wanted to purge. Behind the human surface are the black budget orgs, but behind them are those super-low dimensions where humans and monsters mix. There are still some people in there whom I need to save. >Not even Aztec sacrificial temples have the same energy Aztecs are merely mimicking the real Babylonian and Atlatean practices. To explain it in a language people here understand, it's like Africans building helicopters and motorbikes from wood. The real core of the Aztec practice works, but that part isn't publicly known. It's the pyramid system which is concealed inside internal dimensions. We talked about these pyramids earlier. The ones in Bosnia, Svalbard, Russia, Brasil and Mongolia which form a system for sacrificial angel practices (Pleiadan purger operations). >You would be at the outer edges in rags while hoping for some donations and with a knife within the back of your hand when you know you could get away with it. Can you truly exist in a temple city society? That's a false image. When I went back to incarnate in the early Babylonian period I was a priestess leading one of the major temple complexes. You're not understanding the images correctly. In a modern view the pleiadan priest class lived off alms, using a knife to threaten people. But they were the top of the hierarchy for 1000s of years. They planned the temple building projects and maintained them all through a period of 52 000 years. Everyone else were slaves or sacrifices, save for a small elite who were still below the priest class.

>>4848 I don't know what your question is, I think I was pretty clear: to enter new 5D-based Earth you need to have your DNA altered by a rebirth process (most people will not be directly aware of it as they maintain their visual appearance and memories for the most part), everyone is the same race of humans there. There are variations in appearance, but they are all compatible and have a sense of understanding which didn't exist before. >>4850 >You shouldn't take anything he says seriously. You finally understand. You should never take seriously anything written online, or in any conventional media. Always do your own research, then after verifying a claim by first hand experience, it may become knowledge and fact. You should never trust anyone about anything they say, because even if they believe they are speaking the truth, and they are "truthfully" repeating statements along with their sources, it could still be misinformation.

The night before last, I looked above me and saw a horrendous mass of black energies, possibly composed of hostile entities. After that, I noticed negative events manifesting into my life. I must be getting attacked again. After I got home from work, I felt like I had to do something to kill those entities, so I consented to them being close to me, but ofc not in me, so that I could show them a youtube video of a frequency that's supposed to hurt them. One of them came down, and it looked like some kinda black & dark gray humanoid entity with a weird permanently-open mouth and 2 horns on its head. The entity wasn't noticeably hurt by the video, nor by the next one that was also supposed to damage it. I know that I was told that my magic can't do shit, and it didn't do shit when the 2nd Amy repeatedly forced herself inside of my soul in the middle of October, and it didn't kill the succubus either, so I figure that the magic would be nigh-useless against the entity. I then conjured my sword to stab the entity, but then it nigh-instantly decayed into some useless crap after I stabbed it. I then asked a higher being to get rid of it, so he put it into my crown chakra since everything is a part of me I guess and I fucking hate the fact that all is one and one is all so he did some bullshit like >oh you want this guy gone? >well guess what? >satan is you >all the goetia demons are you >lilith is you >all the succubi are you >all the freemasons are you >all the reptilians are you >all the mantids are you >all the rapists and murderers are you >biden is you >all of the liars are you >all of your enemies are you >now quit rejecting them and just accept this abhorrent creature into your crown so you can get closer to being one with existence already >also you're not allowed to have fun because your desire to enjoy life is preventing you from ascending you need to desire learning only who cares what your inner child thinks fun is a sin >yes, in fact, if you just mindlessly accept everything without question, then you'll ascend, and you definitely won't get mind-controlled by some evil spirit if you do this >ill just put him inside of your crown instead of "getting rid of him" because there's no such thing as getting rid of him because absolutely everything is you with absolutely no exceptions he didn't actually say any of that stuff, but according to his subsequent actions, he might as well have said it, minus the no fun allowed parts So the entity got put inside of my crown, and from there it began entering my soul. I then had the idea of "ripping out of the akasha" a tremendous amount of "death energy" into a hyper-compressed state right inside of that entity, and I told my subconsciousness to do it and I felt a black shock throughout my upper body as the entity died a few seconds later. I'd then told my subconsciousness to put the death energies back into the akasha, and I'd felt it go away. I'd soon afterwards felt guilty for killing the entity, so I went and brung it back to life, but I had a hard time doing it. I'd then asked Mormon Jesus to remove the entity, and the entity actually got removed from the body part of the all that the physical guy and his soul and mental body and spiritual body that are posting this is, because I know he doesn't do that bullshit I'd mentioned earlier. Only reason I'd picked Mormon Jesus is because I have too much energy blockage between me and the Catholic one, and I doubt that he even exists anymore, whereas with the Mormon one I can easily believe that he exists and therefore has actual fucking power and isn't what a mundane person would call a mere figment of my imagination, unlike the Catholic Jesus. I have a gargantuan amount of resentment towards higher beings for not helping me enough in my times of need, and for reality just being the way it is. These anger issues might even go back towards my parents and everyone else whos ever told me to do things that I didn't wanna do. Also, that black entity might've just been my shadow, and now I'm repressing it, or my attempt to contact that 1st higher being to help me was intercepted by the black entity. Now I'm gonna have to ask you a very completely genuine question, /fringe/. Am I gonna have to just accept AND act upon the desire to give my free will away to absolutely everything in all of existence and just mindlessly accept AND act upon every desire that comes over me no matter what the consequences are? Do 4D and higher STOs act like this? It is possible to decide not to act upon a desire without repressing energy and creating a parasitic thoughtform out of that energy? I am fucking mad by the way. I have alotta repressed anger coming to the surface, and I hate the fact that I can't just let the anger dissipate into nothingness by partaking in entertainment. There's no such thing as cooling off because the anger energy created a thoughtform that shields me from myself with my own energies and it won't let me find it so I can kill the god-forsaking thing by absorbing it and getting my energies back.

I also hate the fact that society is inevitably collapsing; that all of humanity's scientific achievements will crumble to dust and be forgotten, just so that humanity won't be attached to their own creations and political issues anymore and will be forced to look within themselves instead of escaping from themselves with entertainment. Or at least that's what I'm being led to believe. Almost everything that I've ever cared about is humanity's creations! If we go back to the stone age all I'll have is my flesh & blood family, and Amy, but I'll go so insane from boredom that I'd probably die of sleep deprivation again, except this time I probably wouldn't get to come back to life because I'd just go crazy and die again. I wouldn't have enough sanity left to learn anything much without some serious intervention. I NEED SOME SORT OF ESCAPISM THAT DOESN'T TAKE THE FORM OF SLEEPING IN BED AT NIGHT! Also, I wanted to mention on Sunday that I found out that my heart & throat chakras are really big, while my other 5 chakras are of a pretty normal-looking size, and my aura is mostly green with some blue parts. I went to Cassadaga again that day and stumbled after I got there upon a machine that scans your aura and shows you a picture of it. I'm kinda worried now about my crown being green. Specifically light green, and my heart was dark blue?

>>4874 Just reinvent culture and write the stories yourself, creation is more fulfilling than consumption anyhow. (Also even in a collapse it's likely you'll be able to scrounge/protect some of the things you care about the most unless it's a true full-blown collapse, at which point your survival is in question enough that you will be plenty entertained just by the actual process of living)

>>4872 >Am I gonna have to just accept AND act upon the desire to give my free will away to absolutely everything in all of existence and just mindlessly accept AND act upon every desire that comes over me no matter what the consequences are? This is a method, I recognize this. It works if you are already an immortal soul with a contact with divine law. Accepting everything then just becomes "acknowledging that everything exists" and "giving in to all desires" is similar. All desires exist as potentials, as a God at creator level, you see that all of this is in your catalog, you can accept that all things exist, good and bad, and once you do this, you will also see that you are one small part of everything, and there is a place and spot for you, which stands out from the rest. It exists there and it can manifest because you tolerated everything, which includes yourself, so the hidden nature and all your flaws and projections were also accepted by you. You have then accepted all of yourself, and can unite yourself into a whole being, rather than being compartmentalized and isolated with a multitude of personalities all struggling against each other.

>>4872 >Mormon Jesus >Catholic Jesus Because Christ literally means King, you are just calling on any patron who self identifies as a king with that denomination. I prefer to ask the named saints. Mary always responds. I think Barbara also had hand in averting some kind of accident during the past summer. I asked her for protection against violent death, which is her special gift, during the year before. In the middle of the past summer I had a dream where I was given a letter handwritten in ancient type, it seemed to be from my astral waifus. It read "if you haven't received this, there is imminent risk of serious injury" and there was a sigil on the letter. I recognized the energy form of the sigil as the energy behind a facility that had been recently renovated, which I used for study. The following day in the morning, I went outside in the garden, and noticed that the large iron gates facing the road were no longer in place. I walked up to it with a rising feeling of "inexplainable horror" and when I reached the stone pillars where the gates were supposed to be, I saw a very odd scene. A reindeer lay dead on the ground, with its head stuck in between the bars of the right side gate. Both gates were on the ground, lifted off their hinges. It appeared the reindeer had somehow jumped into the gates and gotten stuck, in the process lifting both gates off the hinges and then breaking its neck as the gates hit the ground with it stuck in between. The correlation between the dream, the place I used to visit, and this event, was very strong. At the time I only interpreted it as protection from my waifus, as they had taken part in the process of preparing the protection, but looking back, I think Saint Barbara may have been involved as well, leading the violent force away from me, where it instead killed a reindeer in this strange manner.

>>4872 Eat some oranges with the peel, apples too make sure they have no wax peanuts with the shells etc anything you can stomach that people throw away. Chicken skin, bone marrow, liver, heart and root tea like ginger or cinnamon as well. They carry memories of the earth. Learn to listen to your body more rest when you need to even when the world is screaming to make you move. >>4877 >if you are already an immortal soul with a contact with divine law Egganon just needs to remember.

This morning, I found an exorcism video on youtube that worked well for me. Before I watched it, I heard the black entity’s voice in my head; I think it was telling me to do stuff, or that I had to do stuff. During the video, I felt the entity get pushed from my heart and out my crown. I spoke to the entity involved in the exorcism video, and we decided for him to get inside my heart for a bit to keep me safe in case I needed more exorcism, which had soon turned out to be the case. I think this helped me to deal with my deep-seared anger issues, or maybe they’re just repressed again idk, but I feel kinda better now. >>4877 Going by that route, what would it mean to have your free will be violated, or to be fully possessed? And if I asked a higher being to do something for me and he said do it yourself, could I just reply with “well you’re part of me, so I would be doing it myself if “you” did it”? >>4880 I do make sure to eat that kinda stuff, except banana peels taste pretty damn bad, and I never really have an opportunity to eat offal since nearly my entire diet is cereal, milk, and restaurant food, not counting fast food as restaurant food.

>>4891 If you want to be free of these spirits anytime in the future, you need to take charge of your own processes instead of relying on youtube vids where you have no idea what is happening. Moreover you are then passive and not doing anything, hoping someone else will fix it for you. At least look for vids that require that you follow along and take part by doing something, instructions or guided meditations that you can then learn and do on your own with no relying on the Internet all the time. Media is also a possible attachment. >Going by that route, what would it mean to have your free will be violated, or to be fully possessed? If you are open enough, with no discrimination against any spirit, they will just pass through you. No one and everyone will be able to enter and leave, and they won't be able to do anything because it will be the same as them doing it themselves. Spirits who want to abuse you need you to have a will of your own, which they can manipulate. They can't abuse someone who has no will, as then they're just abusing themselves by doing all the work. Imagine a chess piece on a board: it won't do a thing on its own, you have to do the thinking and you have to move it. If you are that way, spirits who want to use you will not be motivated to try, since there is no benefit. Only someone willing to do the work would then go near you, but such a spirit isn't likely to be abusive in the first place.