>normies in my /fringe/ poring over mundane matters on the daily ugh

>>4256 well uh the timeline did just split in a very overt way

>>>4256 >poring over mundane matters The frog is no mundane matter. >in my /fringe/ It's not "your fringe" anymore. It is the fringe of the frog now. Embrace the frog.This is no shitpost I am wandering through the ancient resonance and elemental powers of the frog archetypal forces. I have become frog. I can see the elements the same way as frogs. Shame it's real hard to put it into words and I am not even deep enough within. It granted me a new perspective about the interaction of earth and water elements and many evolutionary aspects of existence. Look up what frogs represent in spirituality. They represent too many things. A real tranquil mind with perfect focus. And a new flexibility within and without. Do not underestimate the frog because it controls you already. I wanted to ask of the return of fringegirl into the corner some days ago but I went and embraced the frog instead. Don't be a frog in the well. Become frog. You cannot remain a tadpole forever.

Here's an actual /meta/ post: This board would be better if you all would at least try keeping your posts on-topic for whatever thread you're in. I mean, does the meta thread really need essays about Trump? Does the sticky really need zoomer discussion? This entire board feels like such an amorphous blobby blob that I forget what thread I'm reading half the time. Part of the problem is people are so shy about making threads for whatever reason.like nigga just don't be a complete retard and you're good. I know I probably sound like some faggy hall monitor but this is intended as constructed criticism so try not to become too enraged It's also annoying because sometimes I want to reply to such posts but hold back because I don't want to contribute to the enblobbification of /fringe/

>>4308 >This board would be better if you all would at least try keeping your posts on-topic for whatever thread you're in Whenever I try to do that like I did with this post >>3722 it gets ignored. If I post my reply in a thread where it fits better everyone just ignores it while if I continue offtopic posting in the thread where the conversation is going then it continues for some reason. This is why I make jabs about trying to stay on topic when the conversation went elsewhere all along. >I mean, does the meta thread really need essays about Trump? Don't ask me I didn't start it. But I guess I could have gone and asked for a justification for switching fringegirl back to the frog in the corner instead of doing a long winded conversation about mememagic which everyone was part of 8+ years ago here and smiley even bragged about it. We even have an ebola shrine banner and a flag after all For some reason I felt that if I simply ask "can we get fringegirl back into the corner" I would get a reply of "get fucked lol the frog stays" or get ignored so I went ahead and started analyzing the pepe egregores and warned how it will just bring in every type of energies that merged with the "memewar phase" of the internet around 2014-2018. When pepe was even a "Hatesymbol" until it was normalized again thx to normies. Also we have a Trump flag now. I think that allows topics about Trump to appear whichever thread of fringe because he is on topic wherever even if it might appear mundane at first glance. It's not like we are on Qanon tier retardation yet so I think it's still okay >Does the sticky really need zoomer discussion? I just wanted to point out with this reply >>3722 that we must watch out to not reach the stage like previous fringe boards and many occult communities where the members rip each others apart for no reason with their magic. We should avoid that because it just generates butthurt and it gets repetitive if you had to witness it through the years at different communities because some bitches went personal and started drama over trivial shit which got ignored then the typical thought process of every magician should curse anyone appeared so I replied >>4274 with a proper way to steer the discussion as everyone will see it as they scroll by. People really will need become more active and productive on this board somehow and I have no idea how. Also it was a single reply about zoomers and not a "discussion" yet. I am unsure what to say about that but I realized something will have to be said about that comment for the need for extremely aggressive schizo adepts because it just invites fuel to the fire while the passive posters will remain passive forever. >This entire board feels like such an amorphous blobby blob that I forget what thread I'm reading half the time Yes it does but I expect these threads to fulfill their purpose then slowly sink down in the catalogue once we make proper effort post threads. Most of the threads are still low effort and mostly for discussion about personal experiences. There are no active threads with a specific theme yet. This is expected because fringe is still not active enough. We are still within the "testing the waters" phase. >Part of the problem is people are so shy about making threads for whatever reason You and me pal. We are both that way. I made some threads so far but for my serious threads I will have to put up my "effort post pants" and my "Higher thoughts wizard hat" and cast a level 2 "giving a shit" spell instead of leisurely posting the way I did so far. You too also could make threads but I guess you don't have the inspiration either. I think many people are that way here. >I know I probably sound like some faggy hall monitor but this is intended as constructed criticism You don't sound that way and I realized people especially the lurkers are too self conscious here and think <It's better if I don't post because what if an angry wizard or a glowie starts following me and my post is not good enough anyway these are the legendary fringers and I am just a mere neophyte/initiate and my thoughts are not worthy or some similar shit. I realized that we have to "Lighten up the mood" somehow but for that I have to put on my "party maker persona" first. >so try not to become too enraged That is the other thing. People think everyone will just be enraged no matter what they write. Personally I only get enraged if someone is not using a flag and posts something abhorrent shit that literally wants to obstruct the theme and function of fringe while not even hinting that they were browsing this site at all or have any magical practice in the post but merely complaining because a sentence in a post triggered them. I think people should care or fear it less if they enrage someone on the internet especially with valid criticism. >It's also annoying because sometimes I want to reply to such posts but hold back because I don't want to contribute to the enblobbification of /fringe/ You can reply in an another thread or make a thread for that discussion. I want fringe to embrace that practice because cross-replying to posts within different threads is supported on this board. Your sentiments are valid and you are not the only one that thinks this way. >I know I probably sound like some faggy hall monitor And I sound like a fucking preacher in some cases and I hate that shit too. It was not my intention to appear that way but if I don't reply the conversation dies down even if it was a good post. We really need to find a way to get the party started. Everyone is pic related in the corner standing lurking and complaining instead of doing anything meaningful

>>4308 >Does the sticky really need zoomer discussion >>4311 >People really will need become more active and productive on this board somehow and I have no idea how. Also it was a single reply about zoomers I think this is very relevant and on-topic here and now on the board. Hear me out. The zoomer generation were given the worst possibly chance of learning how to navigate the online world. Millennials grew up in analog reality, tv:s were just television sets and there was no need to point out which technology they used, because there was only one kind of them, the glowing fat bulb, either in black/white or colour. Yes, some people still had black and white tv:s when I was a teen, I played nintendo on one at a friend's place. Then mobile phones came but only a small elite had them, and same for having Internet at home, it was rare and didn't change anything much. At most it was a way to send text messages (chat) and electronic mail (e-mail). When going places you'd still have to use a phone booth to call home, and tickets for the train were actual paper tickets. Zoomers grew up with this at first, then when they reached the age when they were to start learning about being adults, entering the world they had looked up to and prepared for; the Iphone was released. Like half blind calves trying to find their place in the herd, they now had to navigate a new technology while also navigating socially at the same time. This lead them to not learn how previous generations had socialized as young adults, instead they were the first to do this on the blog platforms where no one older was present. This lead to Tumblr and other insanity where they could say anything and no one corrected them or explained things to them. This caused "phone posters" to appear, people who don't contribute to discussions because they are still in their own mental bubble, viewing the forum or board through the small frame of their phone screen after having previously only used it for blogging where they receive no criticism, yelling into the void instead of learning social codes. So they developed a drive-by style of posting one liners and never returning to the same discussion again, maybe not even expecting someone to see it. I expect these are the people who now would be coming to /fringe/ as neophytes. Guiding them requires a different way of working than for millennials and older. Maybe gen Alpha will do better, that's what those vids were meant to illustrate. They grew up thinking digitally, they are natives to social media and at least they can see adults use it in some routine developed way, while it's also a way to actually navigate socially, after these societal functions moved online for real. But that's not really an issue now, I don't expect them to come here yet. This discussion has been brought up on the Order of Nine Angles websites also, how the older niners (literal boomers in some cases) think in analog and are blind to the Internet way of working, which is causing the failure of the movement. So I think bringing up generational issues is very relevant.

>>4313 Oh wow I was never aware of the ONA 1.0. The infamy of ONA 2.0 sidelined them too much. This is why I mostly avoided their stuff. Never knew they hated Satanism. I mean after seeing the energies of their gods I had the idea that they might be not related but didn't know they were this different and annoyed by them. >>4312 >I expect these are the people who now would be coming to /fringe/ as neophytes Definitely. Luckily 8moe and altchans in general are obscure af for zoomers and younger so I don't fear a huge traffic from them. We are still fringe in this regard >Guiding them requires a different way of working Yeah but we will need more actual adepts that care guiding people and troubleshoot their hiccups at the start not to mention we will need to bring back the basic "tutorial threads". My main problem currently that I had to realize that the methods I used in my initiate years were as flawed as they can be and making the breakthrough was finding my own truth my organic pathworking style and discarding all the misconceptions (more or less) I picked up in my initiate years. Because of this I am unsure what are the "basics that everyone should know" nowadays. Like how the maker of the Magic 101 thread realized how the basics he wrote would require further annotations because it's incomprehensible for mundanes and neophytes while for adepts it's almost meaningless. The problem with each and any initiation system that it requires the rapport first. When the master can appraise the level of the listener/would be student and tailor the initiation to his level. The worst part which appears in every tradition and many stories how everyone is different and while some people can't fucking get it no matter what then you have the people who spend a week in the monastery do some exercises awaken their full potential out of nowhere then they initiate a new age in that tradition with their newfound light/wisdom. You might never know what clicks for others. I personally don't think myself wise and invested enough to teach other people. Most I can do is give advice on matters that I encountered on my own path or help in cases that I can troubleshoot with my still developing powers. But I cannot be a literal "discord guru/coach" and this is why I want to resurrect fringe because it didn't require those methods. We just leave some posts and everyone can ponder upon them until we have time to post again. Once a discussion starts others can chime in and give their takes and that can start an organic development process for everyone involved. >This caused "phone posters" to appear, people who don't contribute to discussions because they are still in their own mental bubble, viewing the forum or board through the small frame of their phone screen after having previously only used it for blogging where they receive no criticism, yelling into the void instead of learning social codes Yeah these guys are a problem but I don't think we have many. Personally I never access this site from my phone. Fuck reading paragraphs on phone tbh. It kills my eyes. Not to mention I only deal with mundane issues from my phone for a reason those little electric paper weights hate psychic overloads. I have to control myself when I hold them What I am trying to get at here. First we will have to resurrect and help those that browsed fringe for years in the past still lurk here or will slowly return once they know fringe is back and give them a speed boost on their path give the lurkers a bone to chew and some ideas they can discover and once we have a stable userbase and enough wizards that can give advice for absolute newbs and figure out/follow the trends of the new generations. Like I don't even know where young people get initiated into the mainstream occult at all nowadays besides TV shows. The only reason I know of witchtok and the kind because the memes of their failures and I don't even know how bad occult discussions at places like reddit might even look nowadays. I am unsure which methodology mainstream spiritualists even follow nowadays. My main problem is that to make a proper thread I would need to actually spend days of research with the current thought processes/trends and see the available resources on some topics first to make threads that people can comprehend easily. What are even the "make a psiball" visualization basics and what are the LBRP for banishing nowadays. Do people even buy crystals or use binaurals or that is something forgotten already. If I make a thread who do I tailor it for? Usually I do it via divining and channeling the energies of the hidden audience but it requires dedication

>>4314 Oh and 2 more things. I believe those that are meant to find fringe will find it. I believe in the will of the universe and how Fate can arrange these thing. The question is ofc if the current fringe is good enough to be a proper instrument of fate yet. No need to answer it. I hate talking to the voice of Fate for a reason. Tells too many things and reminds me how most things are insignificant then it gives me a hug if I worry too much And the other thing is about trends. Currently calling things trend is not apt anymore. It's more accurate to call them fads. Which means tailoring timeless knowledge to the whims of everchanging retardation of the societal masses is rarely wise. I know it's sometimes necessary but I don't think too much effort is needed to put into that direction. I don't expect brainrotmaxxers to find fringe too much. And I don't think any of us wants to make FringeTok videos for them 8moe is quite the international board and everyone comes from different backgrounds and the only thing that unites us is our interest and pursuit within magic and spirituality. I don't think we need to "sell it" like we are some desperate cult for recruits. But if anyone has "marketing" ideas I am willing to hear it. Tho I wonder who is our "market" at all besides wandering seekers of the altchans. andI am sure we need to become more threatening for an active glowie presence and I do not want fringe to become a fedposter board so no glowie summoning ideas pls. thx

>>4317 >I am sure we need to become more threatening for an active glowie presence and I do not want fringe to become a fedposter board so no glowie summoning ideas pls Imageboards summon glowies like a flame summons moths simply by existing, even more so /fringe/ which is a danger to them on multiple planes.

>>4321 I meant active glowies and not the scrolling through the site once a week and leaving it because we are on a level of an autistic hobby board instead of a place they can exploit for their operations or use as a scapegoat. I am sure they are slowly replaced by AI nowadays. >which is a danger to them on multiple planes I think they fear their funds decreasing tenfold in the coming years more than the current stage of fringe. Psst if any glowie reads this. Make sure to build personas around female professional magic practitioners. That is the weakness of this site. Definitely not trolling here

>>4321 Your beloved glowies would be wasting their time here. Don't think your pathetic display of magical abilities is noteworthy.

>>4364 Nice contradictive post there. Thanks for proving my point.

>>4364 >>4365 Go home CIA. You're drunk.

Problem: threads are too long. Solution: impose thread length limit.

>>4639 We have like 3 "too long" active threads at max because we are too lazy to make dedicated threads for specific practices. So far the blog thread and the question thread can be called long or the doge thread but that thread is barely even fringe and serves as a containment place for a specific individual that we interact with when we are too bored and the blog thread reached the bumplimit at a 1000 posts. The question thread is almost dead nowadays. We have almost more new question threads made by retarded OPs who are not even willing to read the board than actual questions in the question thread in the past 2 weeks. I am unsure what the length limit solution will solve. I mean we would just make a new thread if it bumplocked? I think the main problem is that we are too lazy or busy or uncaring to make dedicated practice threads. I am still unsure of my thread maker approach. Who is the "average audience" for those threads? So far we have half baked initiates and absolute retards and some adepts that are too deep within in their enigmatic quests and not even always willing to engage with the board. Obviously the half baked initiates and willing neophytes should be the target for those threads but for them the sticky has thousands of books already. Whatever I will meditate on this question sooner or later. The winter nights are long. I will have some time in the night to waste it typing stuff I hope

What do you think is the ideal bump limit? Anyone can answer

>>4641 ∞

>>4641 10 000 posts bump limit and 70 000 character limit and a requirement to post a pic at least every 3 posts and a song every 10 posts And a ringtone when someone gets dubs or better numerals

>>4641 750 sounds fine to me; don’t need anything fancy to make it work, and it won’t take too long to load on my phone when I’m not at home

>>4640 >bumplimit at a 1000 posts. 8moe has no default bump limit, that's the issue here. Threads are annoyingly long at a 1000 for a slow board like this. It worked on meguca/a/ to have friday joke threads that kept going to 20 000 posts, but that's because it reached there in 2-3 days. Skimming back to follow past discussions and seeing them go months back just makes it incomprehensible imo. >>4641 >What do you think is the ideal bump limit? 300 - 500 depending on board.

Dagoth Ur flag

Bump limit reduced to 500

>>4767 How many flags can be requested? Can I get a Bateman flag? Or maybe that is too large and we have enough pixels only for the hands.

I figure we might get more PPH from new posters if someone made a thread about aliens, considering the UFO hearings in the U.S. lately.

>>4791 Smileberg poster would probably just turn it into Sunflower 2.0 with constant Federation larp.

>>4792 The federation lives rent free in your head.

Since it keeps getting brought up by trouble-makers, just let me make clear to everyone that the Sunflower Project finished years ago. >pic The goal was reached during the active 8kun days in 2021, after which the board was kept up for archival purposes. The endchan board was only used as a blog after that, because 8kun started deleting images. The obsession some outsiders have with this small time limited group project is getting ridiculous.

>>4777 This is b e a u t i f u l Look at them glow! This is like an early fringemass miracle! >>4792 I don't think you should be bothered by it if it stays within a single thread. But I agree on a fact that talking about ayylmaos that deep is only fun if at least 5 people here can talk with them or made pacts and share "Psychic development studies" with aliens where they are helping their growth. If people still don't have ways to deal with aliens then it will appear either incomprehensible to most or paranoid schizos will hallucinate greyptilians and we will just have to deal with their panic attacks constantly. People being too scared of ayylmaos and not being able to deal with them is almost worse than detailed federation politics and other channeled information that can be considered "larp".The shit I am channeling from them some cases is so bad I am not even willing to write them down most of the time. Wish it was on mere larp level like how furries think those space gimps behave. Fringe is not ready for that as long as 90% of the userbase is still scared of glowniggers. Now excuse me am gonna stare at repeating numerals for a while.

>>4728 Would it be possible to remove the 'no flag' option and set the Anonymous flag as default? iirc that was how it worked in old 8ch /fringe/.

>>4777 The site doesn't tell me what the cap is or how close we are to it. When we hit it before, I deleted a few lower quality ones so there's a small but unknown number of open slots. So you can request flags and I'll keep adding them until I inevitably can't. unless they've raised the cap since then >maybe that is too large Technically they can be up to 128 but it should be roughly the size of current flags >>4821 >Would it be possible to remove the 'no flag' option and set the Anonymous flag as default? I wish

>>4826 >The site doesn't tell me what the cap is or how close we are to it heh >Technically they can be up to 128 but it should be roughly the size of current flags Will keep in mind >>4821 In the beginning it bothered me too that there is no default flag like how fringe girl newfig and anonymous were the default flags on previous fringes but then I realized it's better this way. A fringe regular would bother posting with a flag thus signaling that he is either part of the community or at least bothered to lurk for at least 10 minutes. A no effort shitposter or freshboot glowie hire wouldn't do that. Which means whatever they post will be valued on the quality of their post thus signaling to everyone that taking them seriously is a potential mistake. Funny thing many sects in the past had obvious "retard detector" tests like this. It is always good to have some simplistic benchmark for newbs. If anyone considers this "elitist" or "secret club subculture" or I have no idea what trash they will say to prove their contrarianism then they won't do anything productive for this board anyway so it's better if malicious retards don't feel "welcomed" in this place. Heard and read so many old tales about monasteries and even Buddhist temples where the abbot was quite harsh and hostile towards those that didn't have a serious intent to respect their ways but merely wanted to make fun of them or annoy them for no reason. Not to mention I noticed something sad as looking through the archives then recalled by memory too. Many people didn't bother using the flag feature and sat on the default flag for too long. So if someone bothers at least using a flag even if their post is low quality it has 99% chance they are one of the regulars while no flaggers will out themselves by default. Like seriously. All they have to do is make 3 extra clicks before posting. It's a good litmus test. This way we can filter out people that try to pretend to be regulars for the sole reason to stir shit up and employ their typical online community breaker tactics. The reason why I am saying this because a day or 2 ago I noticed that we are gaining a little traction energetically but are facing a "block" now. Was thinking how to shatter it and noticed that if the block is shattered forcefully we will just invite a bunch of retards that will shit up the place fast. After that the "sensational" energies of the board will not last long and cause quite the disappointment for the regulars who have a desire for insightful quality discussions. Then I noticed an another way where the energy block is not forcefully shattered but slowly "worn down" with the organic development of the board which will grant us the possibility that the people who find this place will be those that truly "need fringe" and not those that are here to spew their atheistic nonsense and ridicule schizos because they run out of lolcows in their usual shitpost platform. People think egregores are a thing that mindcontrols the populace for some reason. No it is like how a room "smells" or "vibes" and those energies inspire others when they are within the vibe. "Control" only appears when someone is able to establish and maintain hierarchy then solidifies it via extremely specific laws that many cannot fathom. It's important to always make sure that the egregore is living and organic so we don't end up with exploitative control structures like the shit the illuminaties are trying to do for centuries and always failing long term and always have to stay secretive and invite high value individuals constantly for the sole reason they can maintain quality of their circles because they cannot create quality within their own ranks anymore. I know this sounds offtopic but I had to say it in the topic of egregores to give a better image. I had an idea to make a thread detailing how to interact with or maintain and destroy egregores but then I realized that needs to be at least a 30k character long thread with base instruction starting from visualization then seeing the connection points not to mention noticing how your mind is already filled with egregoric influences via introspection and how you can leverage that part within you to influence the egregore better. Oh and the fact that Akasha poster got overtaken by the Sonic egregore made me aware how some people cannot handle egregoric influences as easily as I can so I will have to write up defensive measures so people don't become Chris-chan tier delusional while interacting with those energies. why... is...talking...about...magic...is...so...hard? Why can't I take the ain'tgonnaexplainshitpill already???

>>4833 What I tried to say with the egregoric energy movement for those that didn't grasp it completely. >>1658 >Some guy mentioned /fringe/ as if it was some sort of mythic shambhala We have the "chance" if fringe can become the "mythic shambhala" via organic development or it will fall into the sad trap where it becomes a sad place where schizos gather because fuckwits come here and shit up the place thus making any meaningful discussion almost impossible because all they do is agitating the posters and bringing out the worst from everyone. Ofc most of us are wizards here and we can leverage those energies if we want this is a reminder for glowniggers that this is NOT the Achilles heel of the board so they better get creative with their tactics if they want to stay around but that doesn't mean I want to become an ordainer of dark loosh wizard. That job is as graceful as collecting dead cats and hobos so you can sell meat to the local restaurant. And the restaurant is already full with frog meat since Halloween

>>4826 >>4833 Correction: They must've changed it because now the site automatically resizes the flag no matter its resolution. So don't worry about resizing it yourself.

>>4888 It needs to be below 32KB though.