>>338068 Good post lad. However, I think it's the fault of us lads, namely the "intelligent" right wing, that these organic movements such as the EDL and the lads during the 2011 riots didn't go further. We need to be able to speak for these people. Say what they can't say. Give expression to them. If the 2011 riots happen again we need to make sure these ad hoc vigilante actions aren't just fleeting moments of aggression.

>>338074 whats your point, do nothing? SA is that you?

>>338072 >>338073 Yeah I agree on there having to be a group to take the initiative and define the tactics and cause of the movement, but that can come in many forms. All of the modern American rights nationalist orgs today that led to Cville and then Jan 6 were practically ad-hoc machinations of people recently politicised by Trump. Im not saying those were great but they were something that created itself out of a mass of ordinary people. Once you get a group of people together they start to organise themselves, not to the level you or me would be satisfied with but they can do it to an extent.

>>338075 tbh

>>338073 This. It doesn't even need to be a vanguard either. All it takes is for your lads to make Facebook posts to boomers. Or make a couple of YouTube videos.

>>338075 > organic movements such as the EDL nothing organic about the EDL tbh it was a pressure release valve controlled by zionists from the start

>>338076 No it's not SA. Dunno why you've got an issue with me pointing out the biggest obstacle to the proliferation of right wing politics.

in the uk

All the e celebs who fancy themselves as intellectuals and worship bowden don't seem to want to actually put their own words into action or even follow the advice of bowden, scum tbh, they are the ones with the audience and the ability to organise a vanguard not anonymongs here.

>>338080 shut up dickhead. Do you even know how the edl started? It was literally just a group of lads who reacted a bunch of mudslimes shitting on soldiers during a parade.

>>338081 you aren't contributing anything, just spreading FUD

>>338084 how can you be on this board in 2022 and not know that the EDL was zio controlled opposition.

>>338085 hello arguenigger madlad go and hoy yrsel off a bridge pls

>>338086 It's our fault that we left people with no GCSE's like tommy Robinson rationalisalize their racism by siding with Israel lad. The EDL was a knee jerk reaction that had no direction.

>>338074 Yeah that's why its necessary to have act in a manor that cant be infiltrated, it's possible just slower. None of the groups you can point to are actual secret societies just activist orgs formed by people on the internet. We havent seen a British nationalist group based on an organisational structure that makes infiltration impossible yet. Simply having inactive milieus of friends of families who all agree would be enough to make infiltration impossible. I'll always point to the Filiki Eteria, what those men were up against and how they triumphed over it in a situation far worse than ours. They suffered fall backs from incompetence and utter humiliation in their first year of launching the Greek revolution, only a miniscule amount of the original members were left when the war was over, yet they won.

>>338075 tbh

I think what you lads don't understand about vanguard is they aren't necessarily strict political orgs. All it takes is for some of us to make a couple of youtube channels and Facebook pages, with good editing and optics, to express some milquetoast boomer opinions Media is in our hands. If you aren't a retard you can take over the narrative from retards like sargon and PJW.

You should read what Lenin had to say about vanguards instead of what Bowden said. Because god knows Bowden had never read Lenin when he made that speech.

>>338089 Yeah they're not secret societies but they have preferential treatment. A lot of the reason why we know they've been working with glowies is because disaffected antifa and leftist academics have outed cunts like HnH, Searchlight etc. I do think it's possible though, I agree. KYS MADLAD YOU UNLIKEABLE FUCKING MORONIC CUNT THIS IS PURE TYRANNY

Mazzini and Bakunin thought the secret society model was preferential tbh

The best idea for infiltration.

If anyone here is interested in the Greek War of Independence and the various secret societies that played their part read this. It's published in 1897 so you know its actually true. https://archive.org/details/warofgreekindepe00philiala/mode/2up

>Bakunin KYS

>>338097 cheers >338098 >can't disassociate politics from tactics huemanigger

next I'm going to get called aggnonce, I can feel it coming on.

Am I retarded for point out that any of us lads can start a network on social media? People in this country are pining for voices that speak for them. You can literally just chat shit into the camera and have everyone lap it up. Fuck secret societies and organisations, you aren't James bond grow up.

You have to disassociate hollywood from irl lass structures of secret societies do not necessarily equal spoopy mason bumsecks rituals, just the structural elements of secrecy.

Ima do things my way It's my way or the highway

>>338101 different strokes for different folks

>>338062 yeah and you just want to self blackpill because the frogs got uppity over kick ball in net game instead of the 9000 other times they rioted and then cucked out

>>338093 lenin was bankrolled by rothschilds and the german nobility lass, bowden wasn't

>>338105 strawman, we just spent considerable time discussing this ITT, keep up piggy.

>>338101 can't you lads go to jail for incel ranting?

>>338107 sorry lad I was consooming ordering some shite for family for goymas

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>>338106 No, he wasn't. I thought you understand where I'm coming from, smh since you read Kojeve and all. >>338108 Ofcourse you can but Incel ranting isn't what I' suggesting. You can just make decently edited milque toast tiktoks/facebook shorts about alabain immigrants and get a trillion views.